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Rumor: Wii 2 at E3; 6" Touch Controller [Up: Cafe Header On Nintendo Site, More]
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Mr_Appleby
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well, i wake up to this. interesting "news". i'll not bate my breath just yet, most of it is perfectly plausible but something about "HD screens in the controller" reminds me of the revolution shooting 3D laser holograms from the drive slot.
Igor Antunov
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Amir0x said:
Mario galaxy 1/2 alone show that this was never the case. Worth owning a wii just for them.
JordanLMiller
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So is this the GC vs Wii topic now or what? Did I miss another thread title change?
TheExecutive
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Tenbatsu said:Controller with LCD?
The absolute very first thing I thought of... dreamcast baby!
friskykillface
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0_o holy shit, just reading this thread now. awesome news
Hyped for E3, lets gooooooooooo B^)
Hyped for E3, lets gooooooooooo B^)
Hey guys, I just go here, what's goi-OHMYBUTT!
I so totally hope this is true. I said last year that the best strategy for Nintendo would be to release a new, high-powered console in the next year or two, making it the only super "hardcore" console available on the market, essentially having no competition. Then, when Microsoft and Sony inevitably release their own consoles 2 or 3 years later, with certainly even better specs, Nintendo drastically cuts the price of their console, and "Wiis it up" again, providing a console for hundreds of dollars less than the competitors, again, being the only real competitor in that "mainstream" market, where the parent just wants to buy the cheapest, most family-friendly console.
It would be the most brilliant move, if I do say so myself. Good thinkin', Miyamoto! ... Be my father?
I so totally hope this is true. I said last year that the best strategy for Nintendo would be to release a new, high-powered console in the next year or two, making it the only super "hardcore" console available on the market, essentially having no competition. Then, when Microsoft and Sony inevitably release their own consoles 2 or 3 years later, with certainly even better specs, Nintendo drastically cuts the price of their console, and "Wiis it up" again, providing a console for hundreds of dollars less than the competitors, again, being the only real competitor in that "mainstream" market, where the parent just wants to buy the cheapest, most family-friendly console.
It would be the most brilliant move, if I do say so myself. Good thinkin', Miyamoto! ... Be my father?
Holy Order Sol
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Amir0x said:
Depends how much you actually pay overall for the system/games.
Skiesofwonder
Walruses, camels, bears, rabbits, tigers and badgers.
Someone hates Eternal Darkness? YOU hate Eternal Darkness?
WTF is wrong with GAF today?
WTF is wrong with GAF today?
Ecotic said:
Nintendo has never not done this. Remember Game Boy? That thing wasn't very advanced spec-wise when it came out but the ideas in it were fantastic and just worked - handheld gaming that you could do with friends.
If Nintendo is pouring money into leapfrogging PS3/360 graphically I don't expect it to be on an "orders of magnitude" level. People always overhype the advancements before we see them and I have no doubt it's the same here. Nintendo has two things in mind when they make hardware: It needs to be profitable and it needs to be different. A Wii in HD with a VMU is not a revolutionary idea so there will be something more to it, I'm sure. And they will still make a "New Super Mario Bros." for it and it will still make boatloads of money.
Treefingers
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Amir0x what is going on dude.
Enough derailing-
OT,
I don't understand the point of the additional screen on the Controller itself. I'm sure you can have some fun with it, but I just see it as a really expensive addition. However, I'm thinking small term. I'm sure in a few years the cost of LCD / OLED/ LED screens that can fit into a clamshell device will be sold as chump change.
Especially if they are mass produced in the way Nintendo wants them to.
Which begs me to ask the real question-
How expensive will this system be?
If your planning to throw in Waggle, a high end GPU, a LCD Screen controller, and the kitchen sink- AND make profit Day 1; do you people honestly think your going to pay $399 for it?
OT,
I don't understand the point of the additional screen on the Controller itself. I'm sure you can have some fun with it, but I just see it as a really expensive addition. However, I'm thinking small term. I'm sure in a few years the cost of LCD / OLED/ LED screens that can fit into a clamshell device will be sold as chump change.
Especially if they are mass produced in the way Nintendo wants them to.
Which begs me to ask the real question-
How expensive will this system be?
If your planning to throw in Waggle, a high end GPU, a LCD Screen controller, and the kitchen sink- AND make profit Day 1; do you people honestly think your going to pay $399 for it?
Criminal Upper
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Wooooow...at all the hate and hyperbole in here over the Wii.
Luckyman said:
Agreed.
While most gamers on here think the next Wii will just be more powerful hardware with better online and enhanced controls, I think it will be at least semi- revolutionary somehow. They are definitely going to have to wow people if they aim to surpass the Wii in sales. Otherwise it will fail miserably. I think Nintendo understands now that differentiation + innovation = success.
And BTW, for those who think it will have LCD/touch controllers... that is such a bad idea.
Mortrialus
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Amir0x said:
My PS3 is worth it just for the Backwards compatibility with PS1 and PS2 games, and Netflix and movies. I missed those consoles when they were contemporary.
DonMigs85
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Ami's right, Goldeneye (and Perfect Dark too) are pretty bad today, mostly thanks to the controls and fugly graphics.
But I still think many of the games hold up well today gameplay-wise and N64 gave me more fun over the years. I also prefer Wave Race 64 to Blue Storm, but F-Zero GX absolutely obliterates X.
But I still think many of the games hold up well today gameplay-wise and N64 gave me more fun over the years. I also prefer Wave Race 64 to Blue Storm, but F-Zero GX absolutely obliterates X.
Basileus777
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thuway said:
Who said anything about a high-end GPU and the kitchen sink? A GPU that outperforms what's in the 360/PS3 will be cheap in late 2012.
Skiesofwonder said:
Hilarious hijacking and subsequent molestation of the themes of classic Lovecraft with fucking atrocious writing; absolutely miserable gameplay with not a single aspect of it being fun to play; comically predictable sanity system in which not a single moment was able to surprise me or even add tension.
Game inevitably ended up like: "oh let me let my sanity run down so I can see what HI-LARIOUS prank they'll play on me next! Omg like lol how funny is that my tv volume is pretending to go down! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA"
People who found Eternal Darkness entertaining are probably the same ones who find Face Raiders and StreetPass litany of carnival side tricks "fun" - you're really just in it for the gimmick, gameplay be motherfuckin' damned.
Jonnyram said:
The higher spec is generation relative. The fact most think this is norm of nintendo in the console is befuddling. Considering what is out there I'm surprised these kinds of statement are still out there. Nintendo has since nes been making competitive tech products when it comes to consoles the Wii is the only exception to this. Iwata has already mentioned that power wise they aren't settling in the way they did with Wii.
heliosRAzi
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they should make another Godfather game for the Wii
AceBandage
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JCRedeems said:
Obviously they will have some new "gimmick" but it won't be one aimed at getting the WiiSports crowd again.
That market is too saturated as it is.
ZedIndyLil
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Pretty fun day on GAF, glad to see some spirited GAFfiness return.
Any rumors of new news coming soon? Not going to be fun to deal with uninformed speculation for 2 months (as opposed to poorly-informed speculation) otherwise.
Any rumors of new news coming soon? Not going to be fun to deal with uninformed speculation for 2 months (as opposed to poorly-informed speculation) otherwise.
I just hope that this system is going to settle in around the 250 - 2999 mark. I believe it will happen though since these folks are responsible for the cube which is a shining example of "optimized as fuck & cheap as hell".
If I can make random wishes again, (Ultimate) Marvel VS. Capcom 3 please?
If I can make random wishes again, (Ultimate) Marvel VS. Capcom 3 please?
AceBandage
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DBebm5 said:
Supposedly we'll hear something at Nintendo's retailer/investor meeting on the 25th.
Ickman3400
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Criminal Upper said:
I don't know who's being hyperbolic, a lot of people think it was a crap system in every way. From the weak hardware, to the weak software and extreme over-reliance on the same old properties (not really a wii only problem for Nintendo though), to the awful online, to the motion control crap it spawned.
I too would love to see them take a more gamecube approach to their next console, fix all the mistakes they made with Wii for gamers.
ClovingWestbrook
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So this has been one of the best days of gaming news in a very long time. All that I can say is I AM EXCITED. The 3DS has turned me back on to Nintendo. I understand that for many the 3DS has been a let down, whether it was the hardware, software, whatever. For me its been revelatory. I CANNOT wait to see what Nintendo has up its sleeve for the next console.
The PS3 has been my console of choice this generation and while I don't see myself leaving Sony next gen I definitely expect to jump aboard Nintendo's console day 1. The Wii has been my least favorite console of all time (going back to the Atari for goodness sake). Its been utter crap. The hardware, the controller, and most importantly the games. If Nintendo can grab some 3rd party support back and include an option for just old school controllers or at least motion controls that aren't from the devil himself, I am so there.
The PS3 has been my console of choice this generation and while I don't see myself leaving Sony next gen I definitely expect to jump aboard Nintendo's console day 1. The Wii has been my least favorite console of all time (going back to the Atari for goodness sake). Its been utter crap. The hardware, the controller, and most importantly the games. If Nintendo can grab some 3rd party support back and include an option for just old school controllers or at least motion controls that aren't from the devil himself, I am so there.
N64 beats GameCube for one reason, it was fresh, it was the first 3D Nintendo system, I don't think I have ever got that feeling from when I played Mario 64 and Zelda OoT for the first time. I also had a ton of fun with Mario Kart 64. And the birth of the Smash Bros franchise was pretty good. Those 4 games alone destroy GameCube lineup, yes Windwaker and Melee may have proved on their old predessors from N64, but it was never as mindblowing and new like when Mario 64 and OoT first came out. Also games like Pikmin did not impress me, Mario Sunshine was good, but did not excite me as much as Mario 64 did. However there is one game on GameCube that was new and mindblowing for me, and that game was Metroid Prime.
KuwabaraTheMan
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Amir0x said:
I would say the threshold is much lower than ten games. I think five-six is enough games for a system to be worth owning.
This generation is so weird. 2 of the 3 consoles launched at more than $300, one is still at the $300 mark, the market leader is shuned by third parties, has only had one price drop in 4 years, and is launching their next console before the competition (or at least announcing it, but seriously, with the recent boost in sales, the 360 is doing fantastic. Microsoft has no need to rush into the next gen. Sony is doing ok once you take worldwide sales into account, and could probably last as long as MS this gen if they wanted).
The Wii2 (or whatever they end up calling it), is in a weirdly unique position. While it's launching on time going by historical upgrade schedules, Nintendo's competitors are content to wait longer than usual before launching their next console. I'm curious to see what Nintendo does to combat the problem of their console turning back into the Wii comparatively-power-level-wise when the next Xbox and PS launch a year or two after it. Launching a console more powerful than the PS3 doesn't do any good if both your competitors launch consoles a generation past yours in a year.
The Wii2 (or whatever they end up calling it), is in a weirdly unique position. While it's launching on time going by historical upgrade schedules, Nintendo's competitors are content to wait longer than usual before launching their next console. I'm curious to see what Nintendo does to combat the problem of their console turning back into the Wii comparatively-power-level-wise when the next Xbox and PS launch a year or two after it. Launching a console more powerful than the PS3 doesn't do any good if both your competitors launch consoles a generation past yours in a year.
Yeah, thats why i'm happy for nintendo to do whatever they want. They'll be hated anyway and companies will always have an excuse.
And i dont expect much for the next console. High prob its HD now and will prob be below 360 power. Whatever their main gimmick is anyone's guess. Also pachter must bw patting himself right now lol
Its going to be an interesting e3
And i dont expect much for the next console. High prob its HD now and will prob be below 360 power. Whatever their main gimmick is anyone's guess. Also pachter must bw patting himself right now lol
Its going to be an interesting e3
AceBandage
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jercruz said:Yeah, thats why i'm happy for nintendo to do whatever they want. They'll be hated anyway and companies will always have an excuse.
And i dont expect much for the next console. High prob its HD now and will prob be below 360 power. Whatever their main gimmick is anyone's guess. Also pachter must bw patting himself right now lol
Its going to be an interesting e3
No, it'll be above the 360 in power.
No reason it wouldn't be.
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