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Rumor: Wii 2 at E3; 6" Touch Controller [Up: Cafe Header On Nintendo Site, More]
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A controller with an HD touch screen? LOL
These rumours are all ridiculous and mostly false.
These rumours are all ridiculous and mostly false.
i just hope to god Nintendo takes this next gen as an opportunity to really invent some new hardcore IPs with big budgets and doesn't just reel all the nostalgia whores back in with OOOO MY GOD LOOK MARIO IN 1080P THIS IS SO INNOVATIVE LOOK AT HIS HEARTS ON THE HD SCREEN ON THE CONTROLLER!
Nintendo, please, do yourself a favor and bring some real shit to the table.
I became older than thirteen and realized the system had one of the worst libraries of all time. It was so genre deficient that literally if you liked RPGs at all you were almost entirely fucked. You know a system is bad when it gets almost no RPGs at all.
But in general, it was just grotesque. Awful graphics, awful framerate, terrible controller, like one game release every five thousand months, and only like 5 total games that stand the test of any non nostalgia-whore's eyes. It's truly the worst successful system of all time.
Nintendo, please, do yourself a favor and bring some real shit to the table.
apana said:
I became older than thirteen and realized the system had one of the worst libraries of all time. It was so genre deficient that literally if you liked RPGs at all you were almost entirely fucked. You know a system is bad when it gets almost no RPGs at all.
But in general, it was just grotesque. Awful graphics, awful framerate, terrible controller, like one game release every five thousand months, and only like 5 total games that stand the test of any non nostalgia-whore's eyes. It's truly the worst successful system of all time.
Commanche Raisin Toast
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Amir0x said:
sums up my thoughts completely. wish i could post a bunch of quotes from "experts", journalists, analysts, etc. all saying how nintendo is done competing with horse power, and how wii 2 is too little too late even if it has a new gimmick and better graphics than 360/PS3, etc. etc. etc.
also: if the controller really DOES have an embedded screen, couldn't Sony just release a feature that allows your NGP to replace your DS3? MS has kinect and unless nintendo is going to throw all of the current motion control gadgets into this thing... i just don't see it working.
didn't nintendo say that they always launch consoles profiting day one? and never take a loss? hmmm...
From The Dust
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The graphics doesnt need to get that much better I think. Just focus on stuff like physics and particles or whatever
DonMigs85
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Any of them could run 1080p 60FPS if they went with simpler graphics (Xbox 1 quality or lower).antonz said:
Ridge Racer 7 basically looks like a 1080p PS2 game. Wipeout HD also looks great, but look more closely and polygon counts and some background textures aren't far removed from the previous gen.
The thing is that devs today love to squeeze in relatively subtle resource-draining effects.
AranhaHunter
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Joey Fox said:These people don't think the power is going to be much more than PS3-360
http://www.01net.com/editorial/531636/toutes-premieres-fuites-sur-le-successeur-de-la-wii/
Said the same thing, the above are the same people that got everything on the NGP right before the reveal (except for RAM and onboard memory IIRC which was never revealed). The reports go from significantly more powerful than the PS3 to about the same power as the 360.
I have no idea if its even technically possible but for me the way i see a controller with a screen to be revolutionary if for magic buttons. Its squarish, but with finger placements on the back for the vitality sensor technology and then an analogue stick where each thumb is. In between the two side would be a big screen that is able to morph button shapes on its surface in any shape with any picture on. So a sword equip button would be a sword that was slightly raised off the surface. Or for a kids game a horse button to pet the horse it could also have a speaker. This way complicated games could have more smaller buttons but kid/casual friendly could have few big inviting buttons. Maybe it could sense a stylus to so you could draw on it.
apana said:
No, I am completely serious when I say I won't lose it. I will be like "man this is going to be a good game" but at this point I am dead serious when i say Nintendo needs to start bringing their raw talent to new shit or they're going to really lose me.
It's not that I don't want Mario and Zelda, clearly I do, it's that I don't want them to the exclusion of every other legitimate hardcore effort. No, I don't just want a new genre with Mario placed in it. Fuck the Mushroom Kingdom at this point. No, I don't want to train Link with a crossbow. I want you to fucking invent new worlds, new characters, new gameplay with no fucking expectations based on built-in fanbases.
evilromero
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I don't think power is the issue for most developers. Rather, I think it was the controller and wrapping their minds around it properly. It could be the same story next gen.
Mortrialus
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Amir0x said:
They've had a lot of new IPs in the last year, its just that they aren't localizing them : (
Mortrialus said:
I'm talking internally developed. None of this outsourced crap. It's Nintendo with the talent and, er, maybe Retro.
I don't mean that to be too many "qualifications", it's just that it IS Nintendo who has the talent here. THEY are one of the greatest developers. Typically the quality of the games they make drop dramatically when they got some weird second party or third party to develop while they just publish. They are definitely not as good at picking partners as Sony is.
Plus, really, I don't think they've had a lot of new Ips in the last year. They've had a few, which also have not been localized.
Billychu said:
Don't know what you're talking about since clearly it wasn't good enough 25 years ago since controllers everywhere massacre those.
Rose glasses off
Amir0x said:
it's probably what the wii sports team is doing right now. i'm guessing it'll be less wii sportsy and more pikminy.
personally, i'd like to see what aonuma could bring as a producer for a brand new franchise. i fucking love the zelda series, but maybe they should let some other team handle it (like ead tokyo) while they make something brand new. it's not like 3d mario sells double digits anyway, and it'd give both teams a chance to do something different.
also, it'd be great if those first party games they fund don't, y'know, stay stuck in japan forever. i still can't believe we ever got sin & punishment and a sequel to it.
Amir0x said:
As much as you may have just raped my childhood; I've been thinking recently about the system some recently and you're probably right.
*edit*
The dearth of releases has a certain appeal to me today, however. Today, the market is just so saturated with games, not only is it a dilemma just considering what to play - it's hard to get the most out of the games you do buy, because the next hotly anticipated is right around the corner.
At least, that's my experience. As a result, I mostly just ignore everything outside fighting games now.
Basileus777
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J-Rock said:
For a new console released in Fall 2012, PS3 graphics would be bad. It would take some incredibly cheap hardware not to surpass it.
-Pyromaniac-
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word to this, my hopes exactly. I have severe doubt for some reason. I hope they don't treat "HD" like it's new.Amir0x said:
Kimosabae said:
The less releases, the less variety, the less chance you'll find something that appeals to your individual niche. If you liked lots of generic platformers trying (and failing) to emulate Mario 64 and if you liked RARE's really terrible output of games (sans Blast Corps, that was awesome) then maybe combined with Nintendo's own offerings you could find the system redeemable.
But for me, it was truly an embarrassing system. Coming off SNES I was ridiculously hyped for N64. What I experienced was my first taste of reality: No, this company ain't perfect. No, they do fuck up. Yes, it's time to expand my options. Then I purchased a PSOne.
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Let's be serious though
LAUNCH GAME: SKYWARD SWORD 1080p
Mortrialus
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Four just off the top of my head: Pandora's Tower (Upcoming), Xenobade, Last Story and Zangeki no REGINLEIV.Amir0x said:
I think one of the problems we're going to run into is diminishing returns. Modern PC games can certainly look much better than the 360/PS3 versions, but not to the degree that 360 games look better than Wii games. So even if the new system does have a lot more power, most people may not noticed a huge leap.EmmanuelMunoz said:
Jim E. Rossler
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N64 had better graphics than ps1, that's not debatable.Amir0x said:
It got left behind because it couldn't really hold the games they were making on sony's ps1, (FMV's, clear audio, etc) it was much more expensive to burn the carts vs a cheap disc, you basically had to sell MORE games on the LESS popular system to make your money back, or you could sell LESS games on the MORE popular system, much easier.
I'm no wizard, but that math makes things pretty clear why you would avoid n64.
Mr_Appleby
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Amir0x said:
well duh.
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Basileus777
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Nonsense. There's still vast room for improvement over what the HD consoles currently give us.superbank said:
Will they look great in 2012 when this console releases? How about in 2016? Hell, PS3/360 graphics already look dated compared to what you can see on the PC.
Vanille said:
Try harder then, sir. You might also want to apply the same kind of time it took you to learn about 3D stereoscopic displays to socialization skills. Add something to the conversation instead of acting like a jerk when you're baffled.
Back on topic:
Maybe in ways for a HUD. Or using the display as night vision type things. Or the seeing eye type of effect from The Conduit games.
Things that sound stupid now but might be cool in practice. It's Nintendo after all.
Dr.Palutena
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Amir0x said:
yep we're already off to a bad start in encouraging nintendo to make new ips when all the fans can say is "delay ss, bring it on wii hd/2" and "Wind waker remake believe".
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