ThoseDeafMutes
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herod said:
Some sources have said "on par with" some have said "significantly more powerful than" and some have said "It might be less powerful or it might be more powerful". That is to say, the rumors are all over the place.
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Rumor: Wii 2 at E3; 6" Touch Controller [Up: Cafe Header On Nintendo Site, More]
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Some sources have said "on par with" some have said "significantly more powerful than" and some have said "It might be less powerful or it might be more powerful". That is to say, the rumors are all over the place.
Guerrillas in the Mist
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gofreak said:
I could see Nintendo going for a combined CPU/GPU. That would save on power and space, right?
Another thing I'm wondering if it's been one source, or if a couple of sources have spilled the beans after one source did so.
It's simply PR talk for articles. No one knows the true specs for this. I'd take the three most viable reasonings; possibly be at E3, it will be using HD specifications (as Nintendo have previously stated when the Wii was announced), and the controller has a touch screen.herod said:
ThoseDeafMutes
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Guerrillas in the Mist said:
All the cool kids were speculating about AMD/ATi combined chipset last year. And yes, it seems highly probable.
Cosmonaut X
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speedpop said:
I honestly believed that the 3DS was accounting for a lot of that expenditure, but given that they seem to have used an almost off-the-shelf GPU and 3D screen, and the 3DS is more of an evolution of the DS, it does seem like most of it must have been going towards their next home console.
mysteriousmage09
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Now they are talking about an HD touch screen controller on top of everything else? The only thing on my mind is what the price is going to be.
And holy shit at this thread hitting 68 pages already.
And holy shit at this thread hitting 68 pages already.
i don't think There is any need for a knee-jerk reaction form Sony and MS over this.
There is no way that this thing gonna have the games (early on/
) to make Uncharted, Killzone, GT, Gears, Forza or God of War look "outdated" ... especially not the stuff that will come from Nintendo.
As for multi-platform games, i don't see any priority shifting there either... there Is just too much money to be made with PS3&360. so they will continue being the lead platforms no matter what.
There is no way that this thing gonna have the games (early on/
or ever 
As for multi-platform games, i don't see any priority shifting there either... there Is just too much money to be made with PS3&360. so they will continue being the lead platforms no matter what.
radioheadrule83
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Imagine a new HD Metroid / Metroid Prime / new Retro Studios title... HD Zelda... big, HD monolithsoft RPGs, maybe Dragon Quest X?
The graphical fidelity didn't bother me so much on Wii, but some of the things it couldn't do -- procedural animation, sheer number of things on screen, complex AI / physics... I mean, stuff like Assassins Creed, or the combat in Batman Arkham Asylum just wasn't possible.
I've really enjoyed all of the first party games on the Wii, and some of the better third party games -- the likes of Super Mario Galaxy 1/2, Metroid Prime 3, Other M, GoldenEye and quite a few more easily hold their own for me against PS3/360 offerings... but there's no denying, it's exciting to imagine what Nintendo games will be like on a new console...
BRING IT ON! Can't wait for E3
The graphical fidelity didn't bother me so much on Wii, but some of the things it couldn't do -- procedural animation, sheer number of things on screen, complex AI / physics... I mean, stuff like Assassins Creed, or the combat in Batman Arkham Asylum just wasn't possible.
I've really enjoyed all of the first party games on the Wii, and some of the better third party games -- the likes of Super Mario Galaxy 1/2, Metroid Prime 3, Other M, GoldenEye and quite a few more easily hold their own for me against PS3/360 offerings... but there's no denying, it's exciting to imagine what Nintendo games will be like on a new console...
BRING IT ON! Can't wait for E3
Remember, this is Nintendo. They haven't launched a system on graphical par with competitors in almost 20 years. IMO, it will be closer to on par with PS3, rather than more powerful than PS3.
3DS is not very powerful compared to NGP and modern cellphones, so I would assume they are taking the same route with Wii2.
3DS is not very powerful compared to NGP and modern cellphones, so I would assume they are taking the same route with Wii2.
Freezie KO
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Vinterbird said:
I'm having a hard time wrapping my head around a launch this year. Granted, 3DS games so far have been helped along by outside devs, but we know important studios, like EAD Tokyo and Sora and EAD whatever-number-makes-Mario-Kart, are all on 3DS right now.
And does Nintendo really believe that the handheld and console markets are that divergent that they won't eat each others' sales? I mean, 3DS just came out this year, and while doing well, it's not lighting the charts on fire. It needs a holiday season as the hot item.
Cosmonaut X
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lawblob said:
20 years? So, the N64 wasn't on par with the PS1 or the Saturn? The GameCube wasn't on par with the PS2 or Xbox? Hell, your 20 years takes us back to the SNES/Megadrive. What a ridiculous post.
Tricky I Shadow
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lawblob said:
WAT?
Vinterbird
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Freezie KO said:
Wii and DS lived happily together in the market. There's no reason for them not to do it.
And we honestly don't know the structure of Nintendo and their studios. We don't know in concrete detail who works on what, apart from a few select mentions Nintendo have made.
Launching this year will make sense since devs have seen the machine in 08, and originally Nintendo wanted to launch the 3DS last year, and presumably they wanna run with the same structure for their next home console (reveal and launch in the same calendar year)
sublimit said:
I don't think its that far out to think it will launch this year, and I highly doubt we will have new home consoles from MS and Sony by 2013. 14 at the earliest.
And Nintendos hype machine can work wonders in 30 days and less. And if you look at Nintendos new way of doing marketing, they work in 6-8 months bursts rather then year long periods with no info and a screenshot a year for four years.
Remember, the 3DS was originally planned to launch the same year as they announced it. It's not far fetched to believe they would pull the same thing with their home console (and I would be insanely surprised if MS did not also pull such a stunt when their time comes).
Freezie KO
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more like lawlblob, am i rite?
Trent Strong
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I can't wrap my head around an HD touch screen controller.
radioheadrule83
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lawblob said:
Gamecube was 2001 mang... maybe not as powerful as Xbox, but certainly a more efficient and elegant design than it, and clearly more powerful than PS2 as evidenced in certain games (RE4 / Beyond Good and Evil etc)
I would argue that being prudent / conservative this generation, and essentially reusing the Gecko / Flipper architecture in an upgraded form (Hollywood / Broadway) for the Wii - was a shrewd business move. It meant that Nintendo were able to both engender support from small development houses and make ludicrous profits while the others had to face serious risks before returning to profitability. Nintendo are in a better position than ever to invest in new technology.
I don't think they'll go crazy, but I do think people underestimate their capability.
ThoseDeafMutes
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lawblob said:
I can't see them having a true "HD" screen on the controller.
I'd imagine a basic 640 x 480 resolution screen at best (or maybe 800 x 480 like the 3DS ..but 2D)...if not lower.
They'll want something that looks decent but doesn't cost much.
That's if ANY of this is even remotely true.
I'd imagine a basic 640 x 480 resolution screen at best (or maybe 800 x 480 like the 3DS ..but 2D)...if not lower.
They'll want something that looks decent but doesn't cost much.
That's if ANY of this is even remotely true.
Freezie KO
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Vinterbird said:
You're right about the studios. We don't know the exact structure. But Wii and DS did not launch together. DS already had its momentum by the time Wii came around. 3DS is like the cat.gif, just taking its first steps.
Graphics Horse
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lawblob said:
I think they went through that whole competing with PS3 thing in 2006, but I'll assume you're joking.
Been slowly reading this thread backwards one page at a time and came across this.Ickman3400 said:
Surprised that pointer controls could be considered crap. I can understand not liking motion, but pointer controls are brilliant. On screen keyboard; piece of cake. Selection of options; just jump straight to the one I need. Going back to old games and having to scroll everywhere can be a real pain.
If Nintendo keeps one thing of the Wii, I hope it is pointer controls.
Then again the quoted poster clearly shows his lack of knowledge by not knowing what the classic controller is.
What I love most about the upcoming consoles is that we cannot actually make even an educated guess about what they will be like. Nintendo with went power, power and then bang the Wii. Sony went from modest, modest to PS3 so again that was not expected, Nintendo could come this E3 with a console that was huge raw power compared to even PS4/XBOX next and I won't be shocked one bit. Any guess is good at this point, mine being that Nintendo will have some new gimmick but they will also pack their new console with a lot of horse power.
Also can't see this new console releasing fore less than $350 no matter what it is, the 3DS is a modest handheld however Nintendo have given it a hefty price.
Also can't see this new console releasing fore less than $350 no matter what it is, the 3DS is a modest handheld however Nintendo have given it a hefty price.
fabricated backlash
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Ok now the rumors are just getting silly.
An HD screen in the controller? YEah, good luck with selling a controller at 100 bucks each.
The more I hear about these speculations the more it seems like a huge Aprils fools joke to me. Albeit a bit late, but still.
An HD screen in the controller? YEah, good luck with selling a controller at 100 bucks each.
The more I hear about these speculations the more it seems like a huge Aprils fools joke to me. Albeit a bit late, but still.
Nuclear Muffin
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ThoseDeafMutes said:
That's because most (if not all) of them are bullshit.
There's no way we can tell which one is real and people are believing any old bullshit rumour that comes out since it's that time just before E3.
Hell, there's no reason to even believe that this initial rumour that started this sensationalist thread is even real...
Oh and LOL @ people's predictions with the hardware specs, like this joke of a poster here...
lawblob said:
Either you people started gaming with the PS360 or you have the memory span of a goldfish. Nintendo have only ever released an underpowered console once, in fact every other console they have released has always been the most powerful of its generation (even the GCN was arguably as powerful or more so than the Xbox)
And that shtick about the 3DS is complete troll material, it is not underpowered in any sense of the word. In fact, it's much more powerful than any of Nintendo's handhelds relative to their respective time of release and is not a whole generation behind the NGP at all (considering that it runs the same MT Framework engine as the NGP).
The pure stupidity on display in this thread is amazing.
RaijinFY said:
The Quad Core Llano are expected in the right time frame for this. Seems to be a lot of confusion on just how powerful its GPU is though. 5570 seems to be the low end estimate
HD does not have to mean High Definition. It can also mean High Density which would just mean the overall pixel density would be quite high. Numerous Mobile devices use such "HD" screens.boris feinbrand said:
Only aspect at the moment I'm willing to believe is that Nintendo may release a few hints (probably the codename) by the end of the month and that, since it quite obvious, it will have a graphical leap.Nuclear Muffin said:
THe rest is just run and games. I just hope the codename will cause as much speculation as Revolution did.
Wolves Evolve
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Prediction:
The controller is a little touchscreen tablet with no buttons.
The controller is a little touchscreen tablet with no buttons.
fart town usa
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if nintendo's new console ditches motion controls and goes back to having a traditional controller i will literally
poop my pants due to uncontrolled excitement
It actually is underpowered for a $250 handheld releasing in 2011. It would have been closer had they stuck to their originally planned price.Nuclear Muffin said:
That's not a very convincing argument. My PC runs Unreal Engine 3, and so does the iPhone. Does that mean that the former is not a generation ahead of the latter?Nuclear Muffin said:
It's not really that hard to compare, as long as you differentiate workloads. We have been comparing a far more diverse set of architectures in HPC for decades.EDarkness said:
Plinko
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MadOdorMachine said:
Again, you're taking the sales data we have from this generation of consoles and throwing it out the window for no reason. Both the 360 and PS3 DID blow the Wii out of the water with graphics and yet the Wii crushed them for years.
You then used the argument, "Well, at the end of their lifespan, the opponents eat up the sales." So what? If I was a businessman, I'd gladly take 4 years of crushing competitors and then 1 of lagging behind before bringing out another console that will crush competitors again.
From The Dust
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The. No buyWolves Evolve said:
Anyone who thinks Nintendo will ditch motion controls/IR pointer is more delusional than those who think he Wii2 will be HD. Jesus Christ people
I just hope this doesnt force MS and Sony to move their consoles out more quickly. Both the 360 and PS3 are bringing in healthy money as well as selling well.
More importantly, current-gen development costs have stabilised, so its the best time for creativity, especially since Japanese developers are making more HD titles.
More importantly, current-gen development costs have stabilised, so its the best time for creativity, especially since Japanese developers are making more HD titles.
Freezie KO
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BGBW said:
This, this, this. Nintendo, please keep pointer controls. I like motion in some games, not in others. Red Steel 2, Madworld = good. Donkey Kong Country Returns = bad.
But pointer controls are great. The best FPS control scheme. New ways to innovate platforming. Good option for inventories and menus. So many applications. Just throw a few more buttons on the remote, and I'm good.
_Alkaline_
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lawblob said:
I sympathise with the barrage of angry replies you'll receive for this post, but dude, this is just bad.
From The Dust
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Yea, misphrasing on my part. Too tired to go back and change itNocebo said:
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