The Praiseworthy
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Before I overreact and over hype myself .... I'm going to wait and see what will happen in E3, Seeing is believing, hearing only is not.
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Rumor: Wii 2 at E3; 6" Touch Controller [Up: Cafe Header On Nintendo Site, More]
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Plinko
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No way Nintendo releases a controller with no buttons. That's ludicrous.
Also, LOL at the graphics discussion. An HD console is 'enough' right now. Nintendo has always done 'just enough' with their graphics. There's no way this thing is superpowered graphically.
That said, we're at a point now in the industry where it doesn't really matter to the vast majority of consumers (i.e., everyone outside of GAF). Make this as powerful or slightly more powerful than the PS3 and that's plenty for the market.
Also, LOL at the graphics discussion. An HD console is 'enough' right now. Nintendo has always done 'just enough' with their graphics. There's no way this thing is superpowered graphically.
That said, we're at a point now in the industry where it doesn't really matter to the vast majority of consumers (i.e., everyone outside of GAF). Make this as powerful or slightly more powerful than the PS3 and that's plenty for the market.
I loved the VMU on the Dreamcast. Seeing that little electrocardiography as I played Code Veronic was great.
I can imagine a screen, touch or otherwise, working quite well on this and I'm sure Nintendo would have some neat little tricks on it. Wii never got much farther then a few uses (listen to it like a phone in that one better then Alan Wake Wiiware title with light harming demons), so I don't expect much.
I can imagine a screen, touch or otherwise, working quite well on this and I'm sure Nintendo would have some neat little tricks on it. Wii never got much farther then a few uses (listen to it like a phone in that one better then Alan Wake Wiiware title with light harming demons), so I don't expect much.
Headhunter
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Vinterbird said:
+1
end 2012 would be the best release date, hopefully worldwide.
Starchasing
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Oemenia said:
I guess Nintendo new console will enable the 3rd parties to keep using their current HD development assets. There is no way that publishers will choose to miss the boat again and say "we are putting our focus on the ps4/xbox720"
If it's even slightly more robust than the current gen hd consoles, I won't be surprised, I mean, this is... 5 years(?) down the line. Both consoles, x360/ps3 are old... Go play crysis 2 on a home Pc.... Generationally ahead now...
And of course, we expect that both the ps4/x3 console to well, be much more robust as well. Thats a given.
Plus
Wanted to add a question:
You guys think the casual market that bought into wii is going to upgrade to a wiihd well, because it's a wii hd? I mean, that market meant tha a lot of "core" games didn't make a dent- see metroid...etc. I just dont see it.
And of course, we expect that both the ps4/x3 console to well, be much more robust as well. Thats a given.
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Wanted to add a question:
You guys think the casual market that bought into wii is going to upgrade to a wiihd well, because it's a wii hd? I mean, that market meant tha a lot of "core" games didn't make a dent- see metroid...etc. I just dont see it.
From The Dust
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This would actually work. They could put a sensor on the trigger buttons that could measure you pulse. Would make great horror games. Think Fatal Frame 5 with ghosts popping out when you aren't afraid.goomba said:
Starwolf_UK
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Wasn't No More Heroes the same...a bit annoying if you set your remote speakers to mute...KenOD said:
All this talk of rumours reminds of a really good Wii one (I think ONM were the source of this like...5 years ago?). The Stand is actually a battery...
This is an unexpected announcement. I look forward to the next console cycle, maybe we'll actually get some decent AI going finally. HD graphics are nice I guess, but I can't imagine any kind of graphics leap they could make that would actually be impressive at this point.
With the Wii they focused on input. I wonder if they might focus on output with this new system. Complete haptic feedback, improved vibration, better speakers in the controller, and just other ways to create ultimate immersion. I expect they'll build the controller so that the entire thing is a vitality sensor, that way it can pick up pulse, body heat and other biosigns and integrate them into games.
Anyway, the only things that are really important to me are improved motion and pointer controls, wireless nunchuks (I love the separated controller, but loathe the cord that binds them), and improved online infrastructure. Everything else I'll deal with.
With the Wii they focused on input. I wonder if they might focus on output with this new system. Complete haptic feedback, improved vibration, better speakers in the controller, and just other ways to create ultimate immersion. I expect they'll build the controller so that the entire thing is a vitality sensor, that way it can pick up pulse, body heat and other biosigns and integrate them into games.
Anyway, the only things that are really important to me are improved motion and pointer controls, wireless nunchuks (I love the separated controller, but loathe the cord that binds them), and improved online infrastructure. Everything else I'll deal with.
ThoseDeafMutes
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Mafro said:
Come on March 2012 release, I know you can make it!
mysteriousmage09
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Well that confirms some of these statements are bs. No way the controller is going to be another motion controller that is better then Move and has an HD touchscreen.Mafro said:
Jaded Alyx
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It was NGamer, and they said the power supply was within the stand.Starwolf_UK said:
Vinterbird
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ThoseDeafMutes said:
November 2011.
Freezie KO
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So the good news from Edge is that it retains motion control (presumably the pointer). The bad news is that Ubisoft has dev kits.
From The Dust
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Ubisoft better be doing Res Steel 3 that takes after the first game. No more excusesMafro said:
NegativeZero
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Jax said:
Yeah, but still, this is Nintendo. And I say that as a Nintendo fan. The idea of Nintendo releasing anything that's even marginally more powerful than anything of Sony's or Microsoft's is shocking to me.
ThoseDeafMutes
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Vinterbird said:
Assuming they got Devkits in January, a 14 month dev cycle is about standard for shovelware launch titles as far as I know. If they launch November this year we'll probably end up with a worse launch lineup than the 3DS.
Everyone is talking about PS4 and 720 following up fairly quickly and trumping this, but can Sony afford to do that? What's their net profit/loss from the PS3? I saw they started picking up a few hundred million recently, but isn't that set against billions of losses? Will a new console from Sony make any kind of financial sense for them?
Cosmonaut X
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...and with Edge weighing in, I think we can call this a lot more than just a single-source rumour that got out of hand.
As for dev units having been in the hands of third parties for months - if they're targetting a late 2012 release date, they are definitely looking to bring third parties on board in force. No other reason for the typically-secretive Nintendo to be showing off hardware so early.
The "better-than-Move" motion controls were to be expected, but I'm not sure how a motion controller could mesh with a touchscreen on the controller. Will be interesting to see exactly what they've got there.
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...and November 2011 is really out of the question unless all Nintendo want are quickie ports and messy launch titles from third parties. A sub-12-month dev period for a modern console game isn't going to give you anything more than that.
As for dev units having been in the hands of third parties for months - if they're targetting a late 2012 release date, they are definitely looking to bring third parties on board in force. No other reason for the typically-secretive Nintendo to be showing off hardware so early.
The "better-than-Move" motion controls were to be expected, but I'm not sure how a motion controller could mesh with a touchscreen on the controller. Will be interesting to see exactly what they've got there.
EDIT:
...and November 2011 is really out of the question unless all Nintendo want are quickie ports and messy launch titles from third parties. A sub-12-month dev period for a modern console game isn't going to give you anything more than that.
NegativeZero
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Vinterbird said:
Two new Nintendo systems in the same year? Keep dreamin'.
Eteric Rice
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The scary thing is that the more I think about it, the more sense it makes in a completely Nintendo kind of way.
And it scares me. Do not want.
Jaded Alyx
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Beyond Good & Evil 2.Freezie KO said:
Vinterbird
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NegativeZero said:
We'll see come E3.
Nintendo planned the 3DS launch for 2010, so it would make sense in terms of road maps.
Freezie KO said:
Good thing for Red Steel 3 is that Ubisoft and every other third party will jump in with both feet this time, since it will be the successor to the Wii, which will garner a ton of support this time.
Graphics Horse
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mysteriousmage09 said:
All it needs to equal Move control is a little LED on the top of the controller, with two IR cameras on the sensor bar ends to judge position and parallax distance triangulation. There could be any number of other ways of doing it, but they don't have to be expensive or anything.
Worth taking all these rumours with a pinch of salt, of course.
From The Dust
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I can see something like "draw a symbol with your thumb, index finger" (if they go for a back trackpad)Cosmonaut X said:
Considering Nintendo only released one underpowered console in their life time, I still don't see how it's hard to believe
NegativeZero
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antonz said:
I don't doubt that there is nothing new on the horizon from Sony or Microsoft. Neither has any incentive right now to release a new console in the near future.
Jaded Alyx
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I'm sure it wasn't, although I could be wrong.BGBW said:
ONM have said and done plenty of silly things though, such as posting that silhouette of Leon as a hint for the next issue and having nothing about RE at all in it.
NegativeZero
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From The Dust said:
Nintendo abandoned graphics and hardware power as a selling point after the N64.
Cosmonaut X said:
The controller may be multi-modal. In one mode of use the touchscreen is used, in another it's more motion orientated...or whatever.
Although the design will be interesting to see if all these parts are true. It's hard to imagine a touchscreen being a significant feature on a wiimote-esque controller, but maybe I'm thinking of it wrong. Maybe it's just a tiny little screen that offers a limited form of visual feedback to accompany the audio feedback of the speaker in the first.
edit - or maybe the whole face is a touchscreen, with the occasional button punctuating it. So that you can change the whole look and some apsects of the function of the wiimote to a certain degree.
ThoseDeafMutes
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NegativeZero said:
The GameCube was more powerful than the PS2, and was by no means far behind the XBOX.
I sure hope Nintendo will give us some more details before June 7th...Videos & screenshots of games would be very surprising though.
Come on Nintendo, we need something for the Hype Train!
There is Friend Codes with the 3DS, so...
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Come on Nintendo, we need something for the Hype Train!
Edeuinu said:
There is Friend Codes with the 3DS, so...
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beelzebozo
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NegativeZero said:
i don't know that it was ever explicitly their focus, at least to my recollection. that whole horsepower thing has always been more an angle taken by their competitors. sega did it, sony do it.
Also Nintendo was completely right about finger print grease messing up the workings of the Parallax barrier. Had some grease smeared across the top screen after an ineffective wiping and it completely countered the barriers ability to divide light under when a little sunlight came into the mix.Cosmonaut X said:
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Edeuinu said:
Not a chance in hell of this happening, and people better get used to it if they're not already.
From The Dust
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Gamecube never existed, dawg? OkNegativeZero said:
Cosmonaut X
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You could integrate motion and touchscreen on a Wii Remote-type device, provided you were looking for more of a touchpad:
-- Camera/sensors/etc. for pointer functionality/position detection on the controller tip
-- Trigger under the tip of the controller where your index finger rests
-- Cluster of standard buttons on the face of the controller where your thumb rests
-- Mini-touchpad on the reverse of the controller where your other fingers grip
-- Gyro etc. built in to the body of the controller
The touchpad would also give you the equivalent of an analogue stick on the reverse of the controller for camera control, or at least as another button of sorts.
Couple that with an upgraded Nunchuk (gyros?) and you could easily have quite a sophisticated split-controller in the classic Remote form...
-- Camera/sensors/etc. for pointer functionality/position detection on the controller tip
-- Trigger under the tip of the controller where your index finger rests
-- Cluster of standard buttons on the face of the controller where your thumb rests
-- Mini-touchpad on the reverse of the controller where your other fingers grip
-- Gyro etc. built in to the body of the controller
The touchpad would also give you the equivalent of an analogue stick on the reverse of the controller for camera control, or at least as another button of sorts.
Couple that with an upgraded Nunchuk (gyros?) and you could easily have quite a sophisticated split-controller in the classic Remote form...
Plinko said:
This revisionist history is of Nintendo doing just enough is as annoying and irritating as all the other exaggerations. With the last 3 releases Nintendo has done this yes, gpu wise, there is a trend. But before this Nintendo consoles where always competitive.
There is no need to exaggerate to make a compelling argument.
The controller will be their attempt at bringing back the power glove.
-Glove on each hand this time
-Buttons on middle/ring fingertips
-Left/Right Pinky fingers act as microphones
-Left/Right Index fingers have coated fingertips for fluid movement on the touchscreen.
-Retina display touchscreen mounted on each face
-Speakers on the palm
-Start/Home button located on the left wrist while Select is on the right
-Clasping fingers together puts system in standby
-Waving either hand turns system on
Hope I'm not breaking any rules here.
-Glove on each hand this time
-Buttons on middle/ring fingertips
-Left/Right Pinky fingers act as microphones
-Left/Right Index fingers have coated fingertips for fluid movement on the touchscreen.
-Retina display touchscreen mounted on each face
-Speakers on the palm
-Start/Home button located on the left wrist while Select is on the right
-Clasping fingers together puts system in standby
-Waving either hand turns system on
Hope I'm not breaking any rules here.
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