No.
The OS allows you to do video chat and web browsing while the game is running in the background and it's constantly running what is basically a Mii Plaza. It's going to use that 1GB.
Rumor: Wii U final specs
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No.
The OS allows you to do video chat and web browsing while the game is running in the background and it's constantly running what is basically a Mii Plaza. It's going to use that 1GB.
DAREALGUMMY
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DAT MULTITASKING!
Can't wait to see how it all works out. Pretty sure Nintendo will free up some of that Ram later on.
Can't wait to see how it all works out. Pretty sure Nintendo will free up some of that Ram later on.
While that's true, Nintendo has played up the feature and tailored the hardware around it.
Horse Armour
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75W is the power supply draw. The TDP is likely closer to 50W.
To be correct, they knew it was 1GB since the beginning. I just covered my back and blurred the thing while answering to ozhunfugi in the WUST by not saying the precise amount, then people, from this discussion, came to the conclusion it was "at least 512mb".
Here's the breakdown
MrCunningham
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Makes you wonder if Iwata (or his team of Ninja's) reads these forums, given that he just addressed a few things that the GAF collective have been bitching about for months now.
gamergirly
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Somebody from Nintendo does
Yeah i understand that, but even at worst case scenario, they could use some additional room freed from the "OS ram" for stuff that doesn't require a fast ram.
Well, i hope for them they planned the possibility of allocating some of this reserved ram for other purposes than system services after. They did it for 3DS.
The slightly worrying part is that those 1GB (in plus of the 1GB for debug) locked on dev kit were totally unavailable for them, but i hope the retail unit won't have this limitation and that Nintendo will be able with a firmware update to unlock that.
Vampirolol
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Maybe that 1GB exclusive is not only for the OS but maybe for the Gamepad!
Unless they throw out features, that's not gonna happen.
I think that makes sense.
If it's like on dev kits, then no, it's not for gaming content displayed on the Gamepad if it's what you implied.
But for gamepad functions like voice and video chat ? Yep, it will use a part of those 1GB.
There were like 10 pages of doubters after revealing all this RAM story in february (it was my second leak), "noooo, why the OS will take that much, blablabla"
Man, even lherre doubted me when i insisted that it will be 2GB total.
It's a real good news and confirmation, i'm sure games will have more than 1GB for them now, down the road.
Not me. From the get go I surmised 2GB, and no one believed me
it seemed to make sense. Anyway, all good news and let's hope they unlock more down the road when the other consoles come out. Maybe then they will unlock the second GPU....I'm sorry scoobs but consoles don't need as much RAM.
I thought we were done seeing posts like this.
Vampirolol
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And what kind of problem would result from not having 4 GB of ultra slow RAM?
Always-honest
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come on son.
IrishNinja
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yeah that's the same thing too, both task-wise, allocation, type of RAM etc, well said
hahahahaha there's so many gems ahead, my friend
Even if it's slower, it's still perfectly sufficient for caching and audio.
Not me. From the get go I surmised 2GB, and no one believed me
Yeah, kudos for the one who've guessed well, pyro, EloquentM, fourth storm, you, etc
like here: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?p=35635991#post35635991
Sooo... what else do you know about RAM?
Thunder Monkey
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People like their easily quantifiable buzzwords.
scoobs
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how can anyone possibly argue that 1GB of ram is enough. Are you guys serious right now? 1 GB and its the year 2012? I must be crazy, cuz ive had 8GB in my pc for 5 years. I just don't see how this is acceptable in todays market
Not sure if serious. By Ram you mean Flash?
IrishNinja
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serious question
have you ever ever followed a new console cycle and compared it to PC specs, i mean in the last few decades
again assuming in your mind they're the same kind/handle the same tasks/allocate the exact same despite you know vastly different OS's and general layout
SolarPowered
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Don't bring up PC RAM or you'll end up in a thirty post discussion that falls off a cliff. It'll take away from your real(and reasonable) argument that 1GB is not enough.
No doubt about that. Sony still feels that cross game chat sting.
Its enough for Nintendo's purposes. The more you increase the specs the greater the price will be. Comparing 1 GB of game ready ram to 4 GB of shit slow RAM isn't really valid. Would 2 - 4 GB of RAM dedicated to games be nicer? Sure. But that comes at a much higher price. Which gauging from reactions would not be welcomed from a Nintendo console.
Well isnt the whole running on second screen thing taking up some of that ram?
It's 2GB though. In case you didn't realize, your PC and even your phone run an OS as well.
SolarPowered
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Hopefully sooner rather than later. This is good news for me overall. It's better than having only 1.5GB and nearly no room for updates that partition more ram for the games.
scoobs
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I guess since Nintendo doesn't care as much about power and pushing out next-gen graphics its less necessary but man... i can't believe we're finally entering the next-gen of consoles and the first one is only sporting 1GB of ram. I think I had 1gb of ram way back in like... 2001 when I was playing counterstrike 11 years go on my PC.
When i think of next-gen consoles I have this built-in idea of what I'm gonna get and this is just depressing to me. I really hope MS and Sony will blow us away so our industry can continue to grow (tech. wise) and not stagnate. I'm sick of muddy textures and shitty AA/AF!
darkistheway
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Given the confirmation of GPGPU and power wattage, does anything else fall into place performance-wise?
IrishNinja
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I know we're talking about RAM now, but I wanted to bring up one of the earliest rumors about the Wii U. It was that Nintendo wanted every game to have some kind of online presence.
So let's say you're playing a single player game. If Nintendo wanted, couldn't they let you create a "community" (rumored to be an OS level feature if I remember correctly) where scores, messaging, finish times and other competitive elements are updated via Miiverse and video chat is handled via the pad? Would that do the trick? Would fit in with that whole "together alone" message they were pushing at E3, too.
Juggling those elements quickly and efficiently would eat up a good bit of RAM as well. The 1 gig reserved for OS makes sense.
So let's say you're playing a single player game. If Nintendo wanted, couldn't they let you create a "community" (rumored to be an OS level feature if I remember correctly) where scores, messaging, finish times and other competitive elements are updated via Miiverse and video chat is handled via the pad? Would that do the trick? Would fit in with that whole "together alone" message they were pushing at E3, too.
Juggling those elements quickly and efficiently would eat up a good bit of RAM as well. The 1 gig reserved for OS makes sense.
shinra-bansho
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Is there some sort of digest of the news that's come out of the stream?
Has it been confirmed what sort of RAM they're using.
Oh, you're ignoring the posts are calling out your ignorance. You're probably just acting this stupid then.
pulga
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Like do you know anything about RAM at all?? :lol :lol :lol
Your first mistake is expecting consoles to be as powerful as PCs. Your second mistake is to say 1 GB of RAM when it has 2 GB. Your PC's 8 GB of RAM is not all for games.
Oh, and little known fact - most PC games are 32-bit executables which can't index more than 4 GB of RAM.
Nintendo is pretty set on aiming for the family dollar, which requires as low a price as possible. That's just how it is. :/