Rumor: Wii U final specs
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Canis lupus
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Maybe 2nd gen 1st party titles will be 1080p?
StreetsAhead
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With the amount of trolling, lying, ignorance, and accusations going on, I would too.
You are refusing to listen to people. Go back and read the posts.
PC's suck up lots of RAM for OS.
Wii U has 2GB total. 1 for the system, and a game (of which you only run one at a time) has access to a full 1 GB.
More is welcome, and I was hoping it was 1.5 for games, but 1 will be pretty damned good, and way better than a shitty phone or bloated PC with 3 or 4.
Palette Swap
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He could have taken a clue about fucking TOSLINK then.
scoobs
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no pulga ive never heard of it, please inform me. Please inform me how I'm so off track here, cuz clearly 1GB of nintendo's magic memory is better than everything on earth up to about 86gb of PC memory. I feel like I'm taking crazy kills *zoolander*
I'm just saying its not enough IMO. Clearly you're happy with 1GB of ram, and that's fine. I however think thats lowballing the consumer who is expecting a next-gen console, and restricting to the developers who have to work with it. Sure its better than xbox360's 512mb, but that console came out 10 years ago
DON'T BUY NINTENDO.
Always-honest
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It's almost like you didn't read a single thing in any thread for about the last year.
IrishNinja
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Scooby, pls. Tell me in which generation did the most powerful system ever win? Consumers wants decent graphics at bargain basement prices. Nintendo is giving them what they want.
lightchris
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I don't think many customers believe that the Wii U would be a technically strong console, especially not for ~250. Oh, and Xbox 360 came out 7 years ago.
Let alone the replies in the thread.
It's going to be saddled with an underwhelming CPU from what we know, so it's going to be the console you buy for Nintendo games and not much else again. Expecting more than that after seeing the comments third parties have been making before the damn thing's even launched is just begging for disappointment.
pulga
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So you were gaming back in 2001 with 8GB of RAM, amirite? How did the 512mb make you feel when the 360 came out, yeaaaaars after you been ballin' with 8GBs (on a PC which is a whole other can you clearly want to open)?
blu
Wants the largest console games publisher to avoid Nintendo's platforms.
True. And yet, we have no idea what architectural advancements nintendo asked AMD to do to the Wekiva they started off with. Neither what the major conduits between the CPU and the GPU are (we do know both have access to the edram, though). For all we know, U-GPU and its ecosystem could be the most efficient GPGPU setup today. Or a Wekiva with 50% instructions removed. The fact nintendo opted for a low TDP CPU, though, hints they might have provisions to better GPGPU efficiency.
IrishNinja
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honestly, while i hope for the best (hopefully this presser in a few hours helps) this is the stance im taking - Gamecube was largely just them, capcom and some others, and i fucking loved that lineup. Wii as well, so yeah, i feel going in with these expectations sets me up properly - surprises are nice, but im not gonna bank on them too often when the next cycle gets full swing.
scoobs
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no... you didn't bother to read i guess. I got my first full gig of ram in 2001, who the hell had a mobo that supported up to 8gb back then? Probably nobody. Usually 4 dimm slots upto 256mb a piece. Its neither here nor there though, my point stands that 1GB is not enough IMO, you can disagree, whatever. Just a discussion board.
Pie and Beans
Look for me on the local news, I'll be the guy arrested for trying to burn down a Nintendo exec's house.
1gb of RAM for games, 1gb of ram for OS and the streaming of games (thats probably the real hog that people forget), makes sense, even if that leaves games with not much RAM approaching a new gen.
Still needs to come in at a low price across the world. I'm not seeing any sort of mania/thirst for this product outside of the militant faithful.
Still needs to come in at a low price across the world. I'm not seeing any sort of mania/thirst for this product outside of the militant faithful.
Eteric Rice
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If I remember correctly, back when the 360 was released people had 2 - 4 gigs of RAM I believe.
specialguy
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I only have 4GB today and dont feel a hefty urge to upgrade, even for PC gaming. Almost no games, if not none, recommend more than 4GB of system RAM (only one I know is Crysis 2 with hi def texture pack, but I have a feeling I can run that fine)
That said if I were building a system today, it would have 8GB and personally I would do 16GB.
pulga
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I did bother to read, just didn't bother to read again, which is why I asked you. Fair enough.
and it's 2GBs.
It is weird that we will be seeing our first real hardware upgrade on a Nintendo system in 11 years.(?) Funny that of all the games that will look great with the enhanced power, I can't stop wondering what Mario Kart is going to look like
Well his concern is the 1 GB alloted to gaming.
It is weird that we will be seeing our first real hardware upgrade on a Nintendo system in 11 years.(?) Funny that of all the games that will look great with the enhanced power, I can't stop wondering what Mario Kart is going to look like
The 2D Mario game does nothing for me. Nintendoland is whatevr. So for now, I'm not expecting anything. Though the potential is amazing.
Principate
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People still have that amount. It's rare for someone to have 8gb unless they're a gaming enthusiast and even then some people argue it's excessive.
IrishNinja
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i joke, but only recently (part of my plan to buy <$10 wii games i wanted to help that 1st year WU slump all systems see) did my Wii library finally eclipse my GC one! i know its not what nintendo wants to hear, but im all about GC 2.0 haha
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yup.
2GB was considered high end back then though you of course had the extreme fringe that went for more.
Not enough for what?
For porting current gen titles?
Whoever is expecting the Wii U to be high-end, for just $250, is lowballing himself.
pulga
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I know, but his PC rig hardly had 8GB alloted to gaming. Seems fair to call the hardware for what it is.
MadeInBeats
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EXPOSED.
I've got 6GB and I honestly don't recall my usage meter going over 40%.
What worries me is devs using the greater RAM in the next twins to full advantage...leaving the Wii U to cry in a corner.
davonaytor
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God I can't wait to see what the next Metroid game will look like.
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Saint Titanfall
What worries me is devs using the greater RAM in the next twins to full advantage...leaving the Wii U to cry in a corner.
You mean an Xbox, PS3 situation? I can understand the worry.
IrishNinja
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What worries me is devs using the greater RAM in the next twins to full advantage...leaving the Wii U to cry in a corner.
yeah, that's the risk they take rushing to next gen before we have anything resembling #'s on the others...id be pretty surprised to see > 4GB to be honest, even that'd be a massive jump and if paired properly with a good CPU/GPU (lol what are the chances) the gap would be pretty evident...we'll see about that though, after all these hints at conservative #'s though, eh?
i want to BELIEVE
I sort of agree with you, 1GB feels a bit low.
BUT the RAM in consoles are not the same as PC RAM. PC (and iPAD it seems) use DDR2 or DDR3 RAM.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DDR2_SDRAM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/DDR3_SDRAM
PS3 uses XDR (FASTER THAN DDR)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XDR_DRAM
360 uses GDDR3 (same type used in PC graphics cards, ITS FASTER THAN DDR) (Also the Wii uses GDDR3 but only like 64MB lel)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GDDR3
So capacity is not everything. Though it is important.
32MB of edram is still there.
*facepalm
A PC with 4Gb of RAM would have 2.5 - 3GB of main RAM left over for running games (if the OS is Windows 7), that is not even counting VRAM.
blu
Wants the largest console games publisher to avoid Nintendo's platforms.
I suspect they removed it just before airing the ND.
surely they can get to 1.5GB eventually, the OS can't need 1GB once they've streamlined it?
This is me on Win7 surfing the web.
Win7 caches most used apps in ram a lot, and thats gewd!
Also I like tabbed browsing!
Going off topic here, but for me 4GB was not enough. I would have major lag when alt tabbing games, and quitting big games, as windows would load the browser back into ram again. Why would I shut everything down just because I start a game?
The big thing about consoles, all consoles...is that they are designed to use every last drop of power out of a given chipset. Developers constantly poke at the machine for every last once of performance. 1 GB goes way further on a console than a PC. Not to say PC games don't need more than 1 GB per say, but they are not comparable situations. So that's why my issue is that the next twins will have well over 1 GB and devs will use every ounce. Oh well, that's just how its going to be and was expected.
Having said that, I am impressed with the hardware even given its prudent design. Unlike the Wii, which was inherently lazy (just an over clocking of the GC with focus on the controller), the Wii U is a real engineering effort. Its an effort at squeezing blood out of a stone. Making everything as efficient, given their bill of materials (which is eaten away by the gamepad), power envelope, and the stipulation that the machine would not be a huge loss per given sale. It is in no way shape or form a slap dash product. It may not be designed in the manner you wanted, but it was designed with incredible care.
Stop this cruelty. Retro is doing a new DK game (which is awesome too).
lightchris
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It's not just the OS though. The Wii U will allow to instantly surf the web while a game is running. Depending on whether (or how much) tabbing will be supported or not, that can take several hundreds of MB (of course also depending on the specific websites).
IrishNinja
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I Stalk Alone
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So now that we knwo wii U has 2GB of ram is it more likely that the Wii U is using DDR3 or is it using GDDR5? I was wondering how many ram chips they would be using if it was either or 4 chips for DDR3 and 8 chips for GDDR5?
Please Nintendo, please give me my DK64 sequel...
The level before the increase is surfing the Web, and then I booted up Minecraft. Usually Minecraft takes a gig on PC, but its coded in... Java, lol.
So, I'm happy about a dedicated gig to games. Certainly PS480 will have more total RAM than 2 gigs, but the OS for each might be more massive (looking at you, Microsoft).