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Social distancing.trumptards at it again lol
in other news, Putin clearly not scared someone will fucking snap his neck any second now, hence this totally normal way to talk to his top officials
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Russia begins Invasion of Ukraine
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Cyberpunkd
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Didn't he hear about FFP2 mask?
RAÏSanÏa
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Litte bit of interesting news, apparently the Crimea Tatar's have apparently taken up arms to join the war against Russia, interesting if true imho.
Crimean Tatars Join Fellow Ukrainians in the Fight
Crimean Tatars are the indigenous people of Crimea. They have been subject to persecution, murder, and imprisonment in the lead-up to and the occupation of Crimea by Putin. According to the Crimean Tatar Resource Center, there are currently 169 Crimean...www.dailykos.com
In diversity there is beauty and there is strength
InverseAgonist
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Thanks, Elon... Fuck all the haters.
speckz
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Exclusive: Ukraine Pushes to Unplug Russia From the Internet
Ukrainian officials have requested that ICANN revoke domains issued in Russia and shut down primary DNS servers in the country.
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RAÏSanÏa
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Surprised there isn't glass in between. Unless that's already a double.
Is that a russian interpretation of a zoom call?trumptards at it again lol
in other news, Putin clearly not scared someone will fucking snap his neck any second now, hence this totally normal way to talk to his top officials
And what the hell is that prop on that table? Some kind of a nuclear launch control panel prop?
Vestal
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Not good.
As it happened: Ukraine live updates: Deadly blast at Kyiv TV tower after Russia warns capital - BBC News
Ukraine says Russia has attacked the main television tower in the capital, killing five people.www.bbc.co.uk
Heartbreaking.
Batiman
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What is RT?
RAÏSanÏa
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Vestal
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Russia Today.(State media)
betrayal
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There is a mistake in your quoted German tweet. It is about the price of 1000 cubic meters, not one (1). Check the original english Tweet.
1000 cubic meters of gas were already ~1880€ in Europe in december 2021.
It's about the general gas price, which will rise as a result. Maybe you should read up and learn what the main factors influencing oil and gas prices are.
Alebrije
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Batiman
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Ok thx
ResilientBanana
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As an American, I wish we had leaders like this. Instead we've had Trump and now Biden with Obama being the last true leader.
funkygunther
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STARSBarry
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Sadly I wouldent take that bet.
Mostly because I don't think there will be a Ukraine by the end.
The UK has its hands tied as a member of NATO, but I wish that Boris would just do the right thing and move from freezing assets to seizing like the US and France. Russian planned for the Freeze, however I think the movement and threat of permentally taking assets off the board in retaliation of the conflict would male a hell of alot of rich Russians start changing their tune.
Outside of that it will be the next few days that will see how this all plays out, Putin hasent got the time with the way things are going economically, so I think he's going to hit hard, civilian casualties be damned.
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Aggelos
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Vestal
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Its NEXTA.. Truck of Salt until we have official confirmation..
cd_jakevas
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I think this is hilarious as Russia forcefully annexed Crimea in 2014. Obama kicked the can down the road. Who knows why this did not happen under Trump but its happening now and its under Biden.
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funkygunther
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Russia tried the same with Georgia in 2008, under Bush.
InverseAgonist
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Click on the tweet for an interesting discussion about Russian communication and logistical support (or lack thereof).
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Insane Metal
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All I can say is that I'm so sad. It's 2022. And we have a war going on. Again. For fuck's sake.
Wildebeest
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They confirmed how they have accepted an application document to the EU for consideration. They have not yet accepted them as a member, normally a long process. It was announced by the EU earlier today.
akimbo009
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He is a military strategist not a politician.
Stop, y'all gonna get this thread closed with shit like this.
Isn't Russia a signatory to treaties prohibiting the use of WMD's? How is it that, after decades of prevailing MAD philosophy guiding the use of nukes, Putin is allowed to and willing to speak about using nukes simply if he cannot win a conventional war? A war that isn't even about his own country being invaded, mind you. If you feel you can't win a conventional war, strengthen your partnerships/allies, strengthen your tech/military, engage in other types of warfare (non-WMD, e.g. financial/information warfare) etc. You can't just threaten the use of nukes because you're outgunned. It's never been done by anyone. It is an affront to reason. Putin has legitimate security concerns, some of which I agree with, and those need to be addressed. But not like this.
It's like if the USA said 15 years ago "well, this war in Iraq/Afghanistan doesn't look winnable because the people are suicidal and fight guerilla warfare, so let's just level the countries with nukes." Literally the same mentality as what Putin is espousing. It is abhorrent. WMD's and conventional warfare are non-overlapping strategies, and should remain so. All nations need to adhere to this. Obviously, no one can stop a leader from saying things such as Putin did, but what I don't understand is why there wasn't more vocal and concerted pushback against that rhetoric when it occurred for the reasons stated above.
It's like if the USA said 15 years ago "well, this war in Iraq/Afghanistan doesn't look winnable because the people are suicidal and fight guerilla warfare, so let's just level the countries with nukes." Literally the same mentality as what Putin is espousing. It is abhorrent. WMD's and conventional warfare are non-overlapping strategies, and should remain so. All nations need to adhere to this. Obviously, no one can stop a leader from saying things such as Putin did, but what I don't understand is why there wasn't more vocal and concerted pushback against that rhetoric when it occurred for the reasons stated above.
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All these years later I still chuckle at what a fucking moron that guy is.
Humans fight. There will be war as long as there are humans.
akimbo009
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There has been other endorsements as well to accept and accelerate the process.
If accepted, and that's a BIG if, there are defense provisions in the EU charter that could expand the EUs obligation to provide more direct support.
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All these years later I still chuckle at what a fucking moron that guy is.
Is this Europe trying to find a way in without it being a NATO action that forces America in?
AJUMP23
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I was making a joke.....but I can delete it if the mods want.
Dev1lXYZ
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Russia walked right in Crimea during the Obama administration. That's why Russia expected the same this time around. Biden's Afghan withdrawal disaster convinced them we were in a place of weakness to do much or care.
what a garbage army, to bad we can’t send some f35 or bombers to bomb this old skool 80s shit convoy.
Romulus
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The Russian convoy seems very susceptible to drones with how densely packed/lax they are. They would be absolutely obliterated or demoralized if Ukraine had enough drones. The US Air Force would wreck them at night, especially considering those Turkish drones are having success.
Rossco EZ
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if that big convoy isn’t at least protected by some sort of air support then they are completely stupid.. but they are proving to be not very smart up to now so who knows
I think that’s what the Ukrainians are gone do.. and some stingers from the side ..
Alebrije
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But why Ucrania just not send some airplanes and nuke it?
How a convoy this size can travel so easily ,like if it were a walk in the park...
Wildebeest
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NATO has not been a focus of Europe for a long time, despite paranoia about the plans of evil NATO from "old comrades" who are nostalgic for the old Cold War rhetoric they grew up with. What we are seeing emerging is something that even the US itself tried to oppose in the past, which is the organization of a coordinated EU military strategy. The military budget of the EU as a whole is much greater than Russia, especially with the new commitments from Germany.
Rossco EZ
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probably because ukraine has no air support itself. & if any nato country does it then its ww3 which they don’t want.
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Because Russians control the air space?
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All these years later I still chuckle at what a fucking moron that guy is.
Besides being able to temper escalation from Russia by saying the US isn't involved, Europe has the fresh memory of an American President trying to extort money out of European countries by undermining America's commitment to NATO. Europe had lots of reasons to not let Russia run rampant and invade other countries. They also have plenty incentive to stop Russia without relying on the US.
Thaedolus
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I think the thought process was these were the same models (or close variants) of fighters Ukrainian pilots would be familiar with, and they could fly sorties out of the West to keep the airspace contested. But sounds like that’s all moot now.
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