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[Rentahamster]

Holy shit Billy the Blue Ranger really went downhill.

 

[Gp1]

Looks like the eastern Ukrainian forces will probably be encircled in a week or so. I still guess that Ukraine can say goodbye to anything east of the Dnieper.

Russia says 498 of its soldiers killed, 1,597 wounded in Ukraine - RIA

Russia's defence ministry said on Wednesday that 498 Russian soldiers had died in Ukraine and another 1,597 had been wounded since the beginning of Moscow's military operation there, Russia's RIA news agency reported.

www.reuters.com

And this is the official "sanctioned" number.

 

[DragoonKain]

I’ve stopped following this on social media. It’s a shame because it’s important to follow, but too many people trying to tie this into either their agendas or making it about culture war nonsense has ruined being able to follow this story adequately.

People can’t just take one fucking day off from the culture war bullshit, it’s a god damn addiction.

 

[Atrus]

Every piece of Russian equipment the Ukrainians can remove off the board is something the Russians will struggle to replace. Their repair and maintenance alone has been a joke, and a lot of what they have exists due to large Soviet stockpiles of indeterminate quality.

Just have to keep the flow of ATGMs, MANPADs, and drones to keep up the cost-effective removal of Russian forces.

 

[IDKFA]

Breaking news is that Georgia have also applied for swift membership to the EU.

Personally, I think both Ukraine and Georgia should have instant membership to the EU. This is also huge news for the EU. Putin thought he would divide Europe, but this move could have the opposite action. Instead, it could usher in a new era in European history and help push the EU to form in to a unified federal state!

What an own goal from Putin!

 

[poppabk]

Breaking news is that Georgia have also applied for swift membership to the EU.

Personally, I think both Ukraine and Georgia should have instant membership to the EU. This is also huge news for the EU. Putin thought he would divide Europe, but this move could have the opposite action. Instead, it could usher in a new era in European history and help push the EU to form in to a unified federal state!

What an own goal from Putin!

He would get his wish if we followed your plan. The EU isn't just a club, or even an agreement like NATO, there are real economic and legal effects for both someone who joins and those already in the union when someone else joins.

 

[Cyberpunkd]

Breaking news is that Georgia have also applied for swift membership to the EU.

Personally, I think both Ukraine and Georgia should have instant membership to the EU. This is also huge news for the EU. Putin thought he would divide Europe, but this move could have the opposite action. Instead, it could usher in a new era in European history and help push the EU to form in to a unified federal state!

What an own goal from Putin!

People think EU is some gentleman’s club.

 

[KingGhidorah]

some of Russian 'soldiers' are actually civilians who were fooled thinking that they are in military training

 

[12Goblins]

I’ve stopped following this on social media. It’s a shame because it’s important to follow, but too many people trying to tie this into either their agendas or making it about culture war nonsense has ruined being able to follow this story adequately.

People can’t just take one fucking day off from the culture war bullshit, it’s a god damn addiction.

I asked my friend what he thought about all this shit going down , and he immediately went on some tangent with some talking points about the keystone pipeline and the botched pullout in afghanistan to explain how we got here... he immediately switched gears and changed the subject when he saw how disappointed I looked I think sigh

 

[chromhound]

 

[Romulus]

some of Russian 'soldiers' are actually civilians who were fooled thinking that they are in military training

WTF, this whole thing is just bizzare

 

[Rossco EZ]

some of Russian 'soldiers' are actually civilians who were fooled thinking that they are in military training

so hold on why are they all working in schools seems a bit a weird lol..
but wouldn’t surprise me that the russians would do this. these guys are just meat shields

 

[IDKFA]

He would get his wish if we followed your plan. The EU isn't just a club, or even an agreement like NATO, there are real economic and legal effects for both someone who joins and those already in the union when someone else joins.

People think EU is some gentleman’s club.

Okay, maybe not instant access, but another point I was trying to make is that Putin wants to divide Europe, but his actions could make the EU even stronger and more united, possibly even turning the EU into a federal superstate.

I could be wrong, but the EU certainly seems more united after recent events.

 

[M1chl]

People think EU is some gentleman’s club.

Sure it's not, however for country like Ukraine it can provide a lot of benefits, but lets be honest here, the process could take a lot of years, even if you sign up like this. So I am not sure how much effect is going to have now.

 

[Wheeljack539]

"Dear V.Putin, I have prepared a very hot pot for you in hell" - Mr. Satan

They can't be this stupid and disorganized ??????

If they aren't it's the greatest failure of our own Intelligence Gathering.

Also, for information and archival, December 2016 meeting in Ukraine with John McCain and Lindsey Graham.

 

[chromhound]

 

[Nobody_Important]

So now Russia is basically just gifting vehicles to Ukraine in order to help them fight off the Russian invasion?


That is awfully nice of them lol

 

[chromhound]

 

[Men_in_Boxes]

I can't keep up with this information war. One day a story is true then the next it's confirmed to be fake.

"If you don’t read the newspaper you are uninformed; if you do read the newspaper you are misinformed."

 

[jason10mm]

The movie Red Dawn is even more ridiculous. The idea that any Russian military could deploy forces to fight all the way across the world is laughable. They can barely fight in their backyard without running out of fuel and getting wrecked.

IIRC the initial Airborne forces were actually Cuban with some Soviet advisers, later on more Soviet forces moved into that area.

 

[Nobody_Important]

Ukrainian Citizens be like:

Best I can do is $20 and a promise to leave a burning bag of poo in from of the Russian Embassy.

 

[GreenAlien]

This might have been posted already, but it's informative enough I think i can be excused for not searching through entire thread and posting it a second time..

 

[DeepEnigma]

I swear these fucking tractors are the most powerful weapons on the battlefield

Farming Simulator 2023 is gonna be LIT !!

 

[Teslerum]

Sure it's not, however for country like Ukraine it can provide a lot of benefits, but lets be honest here, the process could take a lot of years, even if you sign up like this. So I am not sure how much effect is going to have now.

The effect is garnering at least some sort of support and backing, no matter if its small or *just* a potential.

Ukraine is trying everything at the moment no matter what sticks. That's why there's a ton of phone calls to world leaders, a ton of overreporting (and possibly embellishing achievements) for motivation, a ton of calls to sanction every little thing and so on.

The result or the process doesn't matter, because the goal isn't what happens in 10 years. The goal is what happens now.
It's about survival.

 

[DeepEnigma]

Russian "spetsnaz" vs door.

Ofc the Russians would be trying to get into the Techno House

Sometimes the jokes just write themselves.

 

[Forsete]

4 Russian aircraft violated Swedish airspace today.

2x Su-27 and 2x Su-24.
They were photographed by Swedish fighters.

This occurred outside the island of Gotland.

Ryska stridsflygplan kränkte svenskt luftrum

På onsdagen kränkte fyra ryska stridsflyg svenskt luftrum. Flygvapnet genomförde en insats med Jas 39 Gripen ur incidentberedskapen och dokumenterade händelsen, i form av fotografering.

www.forsvarsmakten.se

 

[DeepEnigma]

Read like our 2020 election

 

[haxan7]

If this shit turns into WW3 I am gonna be so pissed.

 

[sinnergy]

If this shit turns into WW3 I am gonna be so pissed.

Sadly most Wws started like this .. who knows

 

[Mato]

I wish Ukraine could be in the EU but not like this. If it gets accepted and Putin manages to upturn the current government and establish a puppet one, then things could get really messy. Another Orban but on steroids, having a say and a veto in internal EU politics, can you imagine? The situation needs to be clarified before Ukraine can join.

 

[Deleted member 1159]

4 Russian aircraft violated Swedish airspace today.

2x Su-27 and 2x Su-24.
They were photographed by Swedish fighters.

This occurred outside the island of Gotland.

Ryska stridsflygplan kränkte svenskt luftrum

På onsdagen kränkte fyra ryska stridsflyg svenskt luftrum. Flygvapnet genomförde en insats med Jas 39 Gripen ur incidentberedskapen och dokumenterade händelsen, i form av fotografering.

www.forsvarsmakten.se

Oh for fuck’s sake. This is what I was talking about with the nukes shit. Miss one waypoint or whatever, someone gets trigger happy, someone else responds, and away we go.

The Mayans forgot to carry a 1 with the 2012 shit.

 

[NoviDon]

Perhaps I was right?? Finland and Sweden are up next on the hit-list (US United Nations Ambassador):

 

[Kraz]

Drowning Vova Putin in a toilet bowl of his own fresh shit would be appropriate.

 

[Hari Seldon]

What kind of planes do Sweden and Finland have? I seem to recall Finland placing an order for F-35s but that was recent and they probably don't have them yet I'm guessing right?

 

[Nobody_Important]

Perhaps I was right?? Finland and Sweden are up next on the hit-list (US United Nations Ambassador):

They can't even keep their poorly trained soldier fed and supplied in Ukraine after planning the invasion for months.


Good luck trying to take Finland and Sweden.

 

[KingGhidorah]

That guy looks like the Russian 1% who still can get by these sanctions rather easily

 

[Deleted member 1159]

Honestly if Finland and Sweden are next and Putin holds back the nukes, that might be his quickest route to defeat. I highly doubt they’re next though, unless he really is prepared to use nukes.

 

[GeorgioCostanzaX]

Sadly most Wws started like this .. who knows

Yeah at this point since it’s a dismal failure on Putin’s part with the military troops he might resort to indiscriminate bombing and chemical weapons or small tactical nukes designed to scare people but not level a city: which would really escalate things. It’s hard to tell if the initial wave of untrained soldiers with shitty gear is just reflective of how bad the Russian army is or if he’s been holding back?

 

[Forsete]

What kind of planes do Sweden and Finland have? I seem to recall Finland placing an order for F-35s but that was recent and they probably don't have them yet I'm guessing right?

The 64 ordered F35 will be phased in from 2027 after a quick google search.
They currently operate F/A-18

Sweden uses SAAB JAS 39 Gripen in different variants. The E-variant being the latest and basically like a new aircraft compared to the old C versions. Not sure how many E-versions are operational yet though.

 

[Chaplain]

 

[Insane Metal]

some of Russian 'soldiers' are actually civilians who were fooled thinking that they are in military training

Jesus fucking Christ.

I really hope Putin gets fucked and rots in hell. Piece of shit.

 

[Kraz]

Solid list of allies and enemies.

Time to start pulling financial aid. Maybe China will help them. In the future we may be able to learn about their lost cultures through the lens of a Body Worlds tour.

 

[NoviDon]

Honestly if Finland and Sweden are next and Putin holds back the nukes, that might be his quickest route to defeat. I highly doubt they’re next though, unless he really is prepared to use nukes.

why? aren't they not apart of NATO? so there should be no interference from other nations right? I mean, the world is watching ukrainians get slaughtered and they are doing nothing to intervene with troops or air support, and that is because they aren't apart of NATO so the west will keep the same energy for those nations i'm expecting...

 

[Airbus Jr]

The 64 ordered F35 will be phased in from 2027 after a quick google search.
They currently operate F/A-18

Sweden uses SAAB JAS 39 Gripen in different variants. The E-variant being the latest and basically like a new aircraft compared to the old C versions. Not sure how many E-versions are operational yet though.

Those are no match for russian flankers ( not even the f 35)

Europe need to buit better fighters in the future

 

[Wildebeest]

I suppose they are referring to when the Russians "cleverly outmanoeuvred" the west away from depending on the evil Nato alliance once again by threatening non Nato members (Sweden and Finland) with nuclear strikes if they helped Ukraine in any way. I'm sure that convinced both countries that the cause of Russia to defend itself against Nato aggression is just and that joining Nato would be a terrible move for them as they might miss out the thrill of being threatened again with nuclear first strikes from Russia whenever their highly lucid and not at all paranoid leader feels a bit threatened.

 

[Hari Seldon]

The 64 ordered F35 will be phased in from 2027 after a quick google search.
They currently operate F/A-18

Sweden uses SAAB JAS 39 Gripen in different variants. The E-variant being the latest and basically like a new aircraft compared to the old C versions. Not sure how many E-versions are operational yet though.

That sounds like a far better airforce than the ancient Mig-29s that Ukraine is flying.

 

[Bragr]

And I am sure there are crazy violent Christians/jews out there, but that does not give me the right to disrespect their faith. I already explained how symbolically what the lard bullet means to me & my people. I will never support nazis and I will never support Russia.

Why won't you disrespect their faith if they interpret it through violence? do you respect the nazis faith?

 

[Forsete]

Those are no match for russian flankers ( not even the f 35)

Europe need to buit better fighters in the future

Not so sure about that.

SAABs EWS are one of the best in the world, or so I have heard.
Then we might have a few Meteor laying around...

 

[Airbus Jr]

That sounds like a far better airforce than the ancient Mig-29s that Ukraine is flying.

Still on paper mig 29 ( and its newer variant mig 35) are better on air to air confrontation compared to saab and gripen

Gota admit russians are still better on that ( they only lack funding) thats why i said nato need to built better fighter in the future

 

[StreetsofBeige]

Someone pages back said Moscow markets probably closed all week. Only got Friday to go now.