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Russia begins Invasion of Ukraine

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Yeah, feels like he's setting this meeting so far away in order to intimidate Luka into compliance.
What we expect from Putin

dc comics GIF by Reflector Entertainment
dc comics GIF by Reflector Entertainment
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But I would like this in that place:

nuclear explosion GIF
 

Airbus Jr

Banned

Ukrainian politician Aleksandr Rzhavsky known for his pro-Russia sympathies, killed by Russian soldiers at his home in Bucha
 
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rofif

Can’t Git Gud

The problem is that they will NEVER stop.
We know this from history. They will keep coming. Even for years if they have to.
No matter lack of quality or training. If soldiers will run out, they will be sending anyone.
The only reason Russia lost so many million people in ww2 is just because of that reason.
 

Tams

Member
So I went to look at twitter and my god, the amount of misinfo, propaganda and accounts that only exist to repeat the same thing as thousand other accounts is staggering.

How can anyone be a regular user of that shithole is beyond me.
And that's after you get your head around Twitter's version of 'threads'.

The whole platform is a joke.
 

TwinB242

Member
So I went to look at twitter and my god, the amount of misinfo, propaganda and accounts that only exist to repeat the same thing as thousand other accounts is staggering.

How can anyone be a regular user of that shithole is beyond me.
Twitter went out of their way to suspend Trump and many other Conservatives/right leaning people for having controversial opinions but has no problem with Russian propaganda and misinformation regarding War Crimes in Ukraine. The platform is beyond shameful.
 
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EviLore

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Award-winning Lithuanian documentary filmmaker and Cambridge PhD, Mantas Kvedaravičius, executed by Russian forces in Mariupol and discarded in the street.





Kvedaravičius held a PhD in social anthropology from the University of Cambridge, and was an Associate Professor at Vilnius University. His doctoral thesis concerns "Knots of absence: death, dreams, and disappearances at the limits of law in the counter-terrorism zone of Chechnya" (Cambridge University, 2012).[1] War-torn Chechnya, one of the republics of the Russian Federation, is also the setting of his 2011 documentary film, Barzakh ("Limbo"). His next documentary film, published in 2016, focuses on the Ukrainian port city of Mariupol, which in the years 2014–15 had come under the attacks of separatist troops. Working on yet another Mariupol documentary, Mantas Kvedaravičius was killed on April 2, 2022 during the Siege of Mariupol,[2][3][4][5] amid the Russian invasion of Ukraine. According to the Ukrainian Human Rights Commissioner[6] and others,[7]he was taken prisoner, shot, and his body thrown out into the street by Russian soldiers. He left a wife and two children.
 

Bitmap Frogs

Mr. Community
Twitter went out of their way to suspend Trump and many other Conservatives/right leaning people for having controversial opinions but has no problem with Russian propaganda and misinformation regarding War Crimes in Ukraine. The platform is beyond shameful.

I don't wanna get into that, I mean tons of accounts that tweet the exact same picture with the exact same text.

Whatever the bird in their logo is meant to be, the reality is twitter is full of parrots.
 

EviLore

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There was a Vice feature or some such a couple years ago about the state of Russia's private tech industry. They highlighted a drone startup that seemed to be cutting edge for Russia. Their tech was genuinely below the level of a US high school student project and not on track to go anywhere. It was hard to understand what they were doing with their funding. Pretending to be productive and pocketing the money, probably.
 
There was a Vice feature or some such a couple years ago about the state of Russia's private tech industry. They highlighted a drone startup that seemed to be cutting edge for Russia. Their tech was genuinely below the level of a US high school student project and not on track to go anywhere. It was hard to understand what they were doing with their funding. Pretending to be productive and pocketing the money, probably.

The whole Russian army is a cesspool of thieves. From the highest of all Putin to the lowest in the military. They deserve it, hope this finishes with Russia losing everything, and their people can have a real government for them.
 

Yoboman

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The Conservative party is full of either decent, honourable politicians like this guy, and fucking bellend toffs. Guess who’s in charge.
Imagine the world if it was the decent people holding power in the left and right parties

Instead you've got the corporate bootlickers holding power for both
 

Wildebeest

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Imagine the world if it was the decent people holding power in the left and right parties

Instead you've got the corporate bootlickers holding power for both
The Tory toffs motto is "fuck business" and their hobby is taking public money and finding ways to give it to their pals for almost nothing.
 
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akimbo009

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Tangential, but important to the regional geopolitics, it appears Macron will end up slightly ahead of what polls predicted. He will face Putin bootlicker Le Pen in a second election.

Looking likely that the imperfect Macron will hold (but who knows). He sucks, but would've broken me if France actually kept breaking right with this war going on for someone who is a known sympathizer for Putin/Russia.
 
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EviLore

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Russia has made a “massive strategic blunder” as Finland and Sweden look poised to join Nato as early as the summer, according to officials.

Washington is banking on the move that will stretch Russia’s military and enlarge the western alliance from 30 to 32 members as a direct consequence of President Putin’s invasion of Ukraine.

US officials said Nato membership for both Nordic countries was “a topic of conversation and multiple sessions” during talks between the alliance’s foreign ministers last week attended by Sweden and Finland. “How can this be anything but a massive strategic blunder for Putin?,” one senior American official said.

Finland’s application is expected in June, with Sweden expected to follow.
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EviLore

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Hundreds of thousands of professional workers, many of them young, have left Russia since its invasion of Ukraine, accelerating an exodus of business talent and further threatening an economy targeted by Western sanctions.

Those leaving the country include tech workers, scientists, bankers and doctors, according to surveys, economists and interviews with emigrants. They are departing for countries including Georgia, Armenia and Turkey. More are expected to follow.

A mid-March survey by OK Russians, a nonprofit helping people leave the country, estimated that around 300,000 workers had departed since the war started in late February. While precise counts of the number of people leaving Russia aren’t available, some economists have reached similar conclusions about the scale of the outflow. Around 500,000 people left Russia in 2020, according to Rosstat, Russia’s statistics agency.

The people who are either leaving or planning to leave are highly educated and generally young,” said Elina Ribakova, deputy chief economist at the Institute of International Finance. “This is your most productive part of the labor force that is disappearing.”

The European Bank for Reconstruction and Development, a top regional development bank, expects the Russian economy to contract 10% this year.

It added that people leaving Russia, coupled with reduced investment and trade, would result in lower long-term productivity growth. Spending on information technology is expected to drop sharply.

While Russia has encouraged dissenters to leave, it has also acted to stem the outflow of professional workers. President Vladimir Putin signed in March a decree granting a waiver from military conscription to people employed in the tech sector. Russian authorities are also offering tax breaks, cheaper loans and preferential mortgages to entice tech workers to stay.

“Of course, this mobility [of workers] remains and may even accelerate, but the government has already taken measures,” Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov said recently.

The outflow of workers represents a fraction of Russia’s 145 million people. Mr. Putin’s approval rating in Russia has risen since the Ukraine invasion was launched Feb. 24—to 83% in March from 71% in the prior month—according to Levada Center, an independent Russian pollster. Levada has also found much higher support for the war among older respondents than younger Russians.

The tech industry, until recently one of the fastest-growing sectors in the Russian economy, has already lost between 50,000 and 70,000 workers, according to data presented by the Russian Association for Electronic Communications during a March 22 committee hearing at the State Duma, the lower house of Parliament. The group said it expects as many as 100,000 more to follow in April.

The Russian tech industry employs around 1.3 million people, or about 1.7% of the country’s workforce, according to the U.S. International Trade Administration’s October 2021 Russia overview.

Many people leaving are taking their businesses with them. Some top managers of state-owned and private companies have departed in recent weeks.

Sasha Kazilo, co-founder of the startup Funexpected, which makes apps to help preschoolers learn math, recently left Russia for Paris. She took her family and business with her. Around 15 developers at the business have already left or are in the process of moving, she added.

When the war started, she said she thought, “It was all a nightmare, and we had to wake up.” After her husband, Leonid Rybnikov, was jailed for 13 days for posting antiwar stickers in their neighborhood, they decided it was time to leave. In Paris, they have friends, and her husband has secured a research job.

“Before the war, maybe I was under the illusion that things could change in Russia and we could build our company there,” she said. “I can’t imagine that anymore.”

Andrey Panov said he resigned as deputy chief executive officer of Aeroflot-Russian Airlines PJSC, the state-owned carrier, and left 10 days after the invasion began.

“I decided it was just impossible to work for a state-owned company,” he said from Israel, where he is currently based. “The country changed in the matter of one week.”

The Russia CEO of the tech company Yandex, Elena Bunina, said in a message on an internal company forum that she left the country for Israel and would be quitting later this month. Two Yandex employees familiar with the matter confirmed the announcement, which was published by Russian media.

“ I can’t live in a country that goes to war with its neighbors,” Ms. Bunina wrote.

Dozens of Yandex workers, particularly programmers, have left Russia and continued to work for the company from other countries, according to several people at the company.

Yandex, the classified-ad site Avito, the commercial bank Tinkoff and the software firm DataArt have collectively flown more than 1,000 workers to Turkey, according to people familiar with the matter. Yandex said that it offers an opportunity to work remotely and that some employees work from different locations. DataArt said it is exiting Russia and expects several hundred additional employees to leave the country by this summer.

Those who study Russia said the pace at which people are departing hasn’t been seen since the 1917 revolution, when millions of the Russian nobility and educated upper-middle classes fled the emerging Communist state. Several million of Russians left after the demise of the Soviet Union in 1991, but did so over several years.

The initial exodus happened in the matter of weeks—we haven’t seen such a concentrated wave of emigration from Russia in more than 100 years,” said Konstantin Sonin, a professor at the University of Chicago. He said he regularly receives messages from friends in Russia who have crossed the border.
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FunkMiller

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Hundreds of thousands of professional workers, many of them young, have left Russia since its invasion of Ukraine, accelerating an exodus of business talent and further threatening an economy targeted by Western sanctions.

Those leaving the country include tech workers, scientists, bankers and doctors, according to surveys, economists and interviews with emigrants. They are departing for countries including Georgia, Armenia and Turkey. More are expected to follow.

A mid-March survey by OK Russians, a nonprofit helping people leave the country, estimated that around 300,000 workers had departed since the war started in late February. While precise counts of the number of people leaving Russia aren’t available, some economists have reached similar conclusions about the scale of the outflow. Around 500,000 people left Russia in 2020, according to Rosstat, Russia’s statistics agency.

The people who are either leaving or planning to leave are highly educated and generally young,” said Elina Ribakova, deputy chief economist at the Institute of International Finance. “This is your most productive part of the labor force that is disappearing.”

The European Bank for Reconstruction and Development, a top regional development bank, expects the Russian economy to contract 10% this year.

It added that people leaving Russia, coupled with reduced investment and trade, would result in lower long-term productivity growth. Spending on information technology is expected to drop sharply.

While Russia has encouraged dissenters to leave, it has also acted to stem the outflow of professional workers. President Vladimir Putin signed in March a decree granting a waiver from military conscription to people employed in the tech sector. Russian authorities are also offering tax breaks, cheaper loans and preferential mortgages to entice tech workers to stay.

“Of course, this mobility [of workers] remains and may even accelerate, but the government has already taken measures,” Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov said recently.

The outflow of workers represents a fraction of Russia’s 145 million people. Mr. Putin’s approval rating in Russia has risen since the Ukraine invasion was launched Feb. 24—to 83% in March from 71% in the prior month—according to Levada Center, an independent Russian pollster. Levada has also found much higher support for the war among older respondents than younger Russians.

The tech industry, until recently one of the fastest-growing sectors in the Russian economy, has already lost between 50,000 and 70,000 workers, according to data presented by the Russian Association for Electronic Communications during a March 22 committee hearing at the State Duma, the lower house of Parliament. The group said it expects as many as 100,000 more to follow in April.

The Russian tech industry employs around 1.3 million people, or about 1.7% of the country’s workforce, according to the U.S. International Trade Administration’s October 2021 Russia overview.

Many people leaving are taking their businesses with them. Some top managers of state-owned and private companies have departed in recent weeks.

Sasha Kazilo, co-founder of the startup Funexpected, which makes apps to help preschoolers learn math, recently left Russia for Paris. She took her family and business with her. Around 15 developers at the business have already left or are in the process of moving, she added.

When the war started, she said she thought, “It was all a nightmare, and we had to wake up.” After her husband, Leonid Rybnikov, was jailed for 13 days for posting antiwar stickers in their neighborhood, they decided it was time to leave. In Paris, they have friends, and her husband has secured a research job.

“Before the war, maybe I was under the illusion that things could change in Russia and we could build our company there,” she said. “I can’t imagine that anymore.”

Andrey Panov said he resigned as deputy chief executive officer of Aeroflot-Russian Airlines PJSC, the state-owned carrier, and left 10 days after the invasion began.

“I decided it was just impossible to work for a state-owned company,” he said from Israel, where he is currently based. “The country changed in the matter of one week.”

The Russia CEO of the tech company Yandex, Elena Bunina, said in a message on an internal company forum that she left the country for Israel and would be quitting later this month. Two Yandex employees familiar with the matter confirmed the announcement, which was published by Russian media.

“ I can’t live in a country that goes to war with its neighbors,” Ms. Bunina wrote.

Dozens of Yandex workers, particularly programmers, have left Russia and continued to work for the company from other countries, according to several people at the company.

Yandex, the classified-ad site Avito, the commercial bank Tinkoff and the software firm DataArt have collectively flown more than 1,000 workers to Turkey, according to people familiar with the matter. Yandex said that it offers an opportunity to work remotely and that some employees work from different locations. DataArt said it is exiting Russia and expects several hundred additional employees to leave the country by this summer.

Those who study Russia said the pace at which people are departing hasn’t been seen since the 1917 revolution, when millions of the Russian nobility and educated upper-middle classes fled the emerging Communist state. Several million of Russians left after the demise of the Soviet Union in 1991, but did so over several years.

The initial exodus happened in the matter of weeks—we haven’t seen such a concentrated wave of emigration from Russia in more than 100 years,” said Konstantin Sonin, a professor at the University of Chicago. He said he regularly receives messages from friends in Russia who have crossed the border.
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Great. Nothing would give me greater pleasure than watching the long, slow fucking death of that nation as anything other than a place to make and consume boiled cabbage.

I was always relatively ambivalent towards Russia before, but after the horrors we’re seeing them commit, I viscerally despise it now. And I’m definitely not the only one. Fuck ‘em. Fuck ‘em right into the ground.
 
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Patrick S.

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This is a good video on perspective living inside Russia:



Well, I would say it has rose tinted glasses for past times, which is understandable, but still a good video.


I guess this changes what he said a few videos ago; that he didn't want to shit on Russia from too much height because he has his family and friends there and wants to return after things calm down.
 

M1chl

Currently Gif and Meme Champion
I guess this changes what he said a few videos ago; that he didn't want to shit on Russia from too much height because he has his family and friends there and wants to return after things calm down.
I would say that possibility is that his family also moved out. But I don't have anything to prove it. However with this video, is fairly obvious that he just can't go back...
 

AJUMP23

Parody of actual AJUMP23
New 60 Minutes interview with Zelenskyy. Looks like one to watch.


60 minutes is a partisan news magazine, but I thought this was a good piece with good access to his HQ. Zelenskyy wants a no fly zone, and that is something he knows would help him win his countries autonomy.
 

moniker

Member
I really hope Sweden joins Nato. Finland looks like a done deal, but the Swedish Social Democrats have been dragging their feet. Seems like things might have started to move this past week though.
 

Tams

Member
60 minutes is a partisan news magazine, but I thought this was a good piece with good access to his HQ. Zelenskyy wants a no fly zone, and that is something he knows would help him win his countries autonomy.
I'm still not sure the Ukrainians know what a no-fly zone entails.

The only no-fly zones that have ever been imposed have been against forces that have next to not ability to counter them (and even then, a F-117A ended up getting shot down using 50's Soviet equipment by Serbia* (also an F-16CJ)). Russia have shown themselves to very incompetent, but they are still causing casualties. So any no-fly zone would likely require attacking air defences in Russia before most aircraft could be deployed to enforce any no-fly zone.

*Who just so happen to be shit stirring again with their purchase of a PRC anti-air system requiring six PRC modern transport planes (C17 like) to cross NATO territory.
 

AJUMP23

Parody of actual AJUMP23
Tams Tams I don't think the US should enforce a no fly zone, but unintended consequence from this war has been countries there were on the fence with NATO like Finland, are looking to join.
 

AJUMP23

Parody of actual AJUMP23
Could you rewrite that as less of a word salad please.
Multiple thoughts in one sentence.

The US should not enforce a no fly zone due to the over arching consequences of expanding the war beyond the current region. I know it means more Ukrainians suffer. But it is not in the interest of other nations to enter into an expanding conflict.

An unintended part of this maneuvering from Russia has been their neighbors now don't care about Russia threats and are hastening for western alliances and protection because of Russian aggression. Everyone country near the Russian border want to join NATO.
 

TwinB242

Member

Mariupol might finally be out of time, but there are going to be some incredible stories to come out of this battle

The 36th marine brigade, in its post, warned that after 47 days of defending the city, the unit had been surrounded by the Russian army, and was facing "hand-to-hand combat".

But the post promised Ukrainians its soldiers "did everything possible and impossible" to stop the Russian advance.

"The mountain of wounded makes up almost half of the brigade. Those whose limbs are not torn off return to battle," it said.

"The infantry was all killed and the shooting battles are now conducted by artillerymen, anti-aircraft gunners, radio operators, drivers and cooks. Even the orchestra."
 

MadAnon

Member
It’s a shame… we all knew it would happen sooner or later. Meanwhile Ukrainian troops can’t recapture kherson or melitopol
The only real way of taking a city is by doing what russians are doing in Mariupol - tons of collateral damage. Expecting ukrainians to take back Kherson is just not realistic unless you want them to bomb the shit out of it. Southern Ukraine is simply lost. Donbass front was standing still for years.
 
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