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[Deleted member 1159]

Mama always said nazi is as nazi does

 

[darth.shrimp]

Well, good luck trying to "denazify" a NATO member I guess... damn, I swear these orcs are getting dumber and dumber by the day...

 

[p_xavier]

Another addition to long running series "not all Russians"

This is just too much, I threw up. Add a Not Safe For Life for christ´s sake.

 

[EviLore]

Good showing from Boris, walking Kyiv with Zelenskyy and accepting a ceremonial cock from a young woman.

 

[Wildebeest]

The look of pure joy on Boris' face when thought about the wine he could drink later.

 

[Bitmap Frogs]

Some sources report Ukraine forces are now 8 clicks from Kherson.

 

[M1chl]

Apologies, I am just angry EviLore

 

[TwinB242]

Some sources report Ukraine forces are now 8 clicks from Kherson.

I wonder if there's a chance Russians will just abandon the city if UA starts knocking on its doors or if they'll hold their ground. It wouldn't be on the same scale as Mariupol but an urban battle like that would be very costly for both sides.

 

[Bitmap Frogs]

I wonder if there's a chance Russians will just abandon the city if UA starts knocking on its doors or if they'll hold their ground. It wouldn't be on the same scale as Mariupol but an urban battle like that would be very costly for both sides.

Considering the usual twitter suspects are circulating a clip on twitter about the russian flag going up on the kherson regional administration building, I think the plan is to run away and blow up the bridge.

Having given up on Odessa, blowing up the bridge means Kherson loses a lot of its strategic significance - the river is almost 300m wide at it's narrowest.

 

[M1chl]

Some sources report Ukraine forces are now 8 clicks from Kherson.

clicks = km?

 

[IDKFA]

Another addition to long running series "not all Russians"

This is by far the sickest and most disturbing thing I've heard of for a long time, if not ever.

I'm normally against the death penalty, but I hope they find this vile piece of shit. He needs to die slowly and as painfully as possible.

 

[M1chl]

This is by far the sickest and most disturbing thing I've heard of for a long time, if not ever.

I'm normally against the death penalty, but I hope they find this vile piece of shit. He needs to die slowly and as painfully as possible.

Yeah...and details of that are far worse. It has been deleted in this thread, so don't search for details and don't look at era thread. Makes me physically sick.

 

[FunkMiller]

Would stomach a nuclear strike on Russia at this point.

It won’t happen. But I could stomach it.

All this must be punished properly.

 

[FunkMiller]

Good showing from Boris, walking Kyiv with Zelenskyy and accepting a ceremonial cock from a young woman.

This is a very, very good move from Boris, for multiple reasons, both foreign and domestic.

 

[Lord Panda]

Incredible to see the EU President and UK prime minister, strolling around in a war zone and seeing the devastation first hand. Can’t imagine the logistics and security arrangements for this sort of thing. Is the Russian government notified of these ‘secret’ visits?

Need to plop the German chancellor on a train to Kyiv as well, so he can see for himself the atrocities next door.

 

[Liljagare]

Visited a a war museum today, read something that struck a cord over how insane wars are. During the Swedish/Russian conflicts in the 17th century, 200000 swedish soldiers died. That in a nation of back then, with a population of 1.4 million.

A general on the Russian side said, looting, pillaging and raping was allowed, but not the killing of civilians, since "living victims of war, is the best way to affect people in power, in days when death is common" .

Disgraceful when you think about it.

New item by Liljagare Lilja

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Russia has done nothing but degenerate since Napoleonic times.

 

[Neff]

Good showing from Boris, walking Kyiv with Zelenskyy and accepting a ceremonial cock from a young woman.

Sometimes that scruffy twat is alright. Good on 'im.

 

[Bitmap Frogs]

clicks = km?

Yes

 

[Tams]

Likely true, but hugely short sighted.

Ukraine has at least an order of magnitude more potential soldiers than they can actually utilize at the front, and probably 20x as many as they can logistically support with arms and ammunition. A division or two of men going overseas to train on equipment that will end the war when deployed will have not diminish Ukraine's ability to fight, as the alternative isn't to have them fight on the front lines, the alternative would be to have them in training camps or civil defense forces in western Ukraine. When you are mobilizing for an existential war, you don't just plan for next week, you have to plan for what happens if the war drags on for months, or god forbid, years.

That means everything needs to be on the table, even if we think the war might be over before it's ready.

Also a tank is designed to be used by a high school graduate with ~6 months of training, it's not a mystical piece of arcana that Ukrainians will struggle to understand. Fighter jets are more of an issue there, but even then, I'd bet you could develop an expedited training program that brings Ukrainian pilots to the level where they are more of a help then a hindrance within months instead of years, especially if they have prior experience.

Not short-sighted at all.

Ukraine's security is very important and a part of any Western nation's security. But each nation has their own security to handle and that should not be compromised.

 

[EviLore]

Polish football match.

 

[Tams]

So pretty much this:

Good, good, good. This is how they destroy themselves.

 

[TwinB242]

Was hearing this military analyst on Sky News talking about the current state of the conflict, and he made a good point about how much harder its going to be for Ukraine's forces to get refitted with western armaments and supplies as they head further east. If you look at the map it makes sense. Everything is going to have to travel from one edge of the country to the other, and as equipment gets closer to the frontlines Ukrainians will have to deal with more concentrated Russian air power in the area that will be a constant threat to their supply lines.

 

[akimbo009]

Yeah...and details of that are far worse. It has been deleted in this thread, so don't search for details and don't look at era thread. Makes me physically sick.

Can we stop posting these tragedies about kids for a little while? I know the truth needs to be put there but could use a break... And if not, please post with a spoiler so we can avoid easier with NSFL indicator.

 

[Fox Mulder]

Was hearing this military analyst on Sky News talking about the current state of the conflict, and he made a good point about how much harder its going to be for Ukraine's forces to get refitted with western armaments and supplies as they head further east. If you look at the map it makes sense. Everything is going to have to travel from one edge of the country to the other, and as equipment gets closer to the frontlines Ukrainians will have to deal with more concentrated Russian air power in the area that will be a constant threat to their supply lines.

Russia’s hilariously awful supply line problems are lessened when the fighting fighting is right at their border.

 

[chromhound]

 

[AJUMP23]

Johnson needs the positive news.

 

[akimbo009]

Russia’s hilariously awful supply line problems are lessened when the fighting fighting is right at their border.

I think that's only partly true. The supplies we've seen up till now are also old, and barely maintained or otherwise insufficient. Food may get better, but I really doubt it. They've captured supply food trucks and they were half full, mostly rotten vegetables and little or no protein. It's not like that because they are going bad, they are like that cause they are badly supplied as a rule.

While their back lines will be more protected it won't help since they are advancing - once they are anywhere past Donbas they'll be getting shlacked. They haven't proven they can hold extended positions for any real length of time, and that's not just supply problems.

And the s300s are coming on line so it's still a contested air space - and their pilots actually suck and are old and fat.

It's going to be harder, but feels like stalemate not success. Though they did replace their commander..

Russia has replaced commander of military operations in Ukraine, says Western official- Republic World

www.republicworld.com

 

[iamblades]

Not short-sighted at all.

Ukraine's security is very important and a part of any Western nation's security. But each nation has their own security to handle and that should not be compromised.

The US could give Ukraine many times the number of Abrams that they could logistically support with 0 impact to our security. The production numbers on Challenger 2 probably take that option off the table, Leopard 2 production numbers suggest that there should be enough spare to supply Ukraine, but I don't know how much of that inventory has aged out or been deprecated due to maintenance etc.

Realistically given what we have learned about the Russian military there is almost nothing I can think of that we could give that would materially impact the security of any western nation. F-22 or F-35 fighters sure, THAAD or Aegis or equivalent systems maybe, but no one is even suggesting those as even a theoretical option. Everything else should be on the table.

Patriot missiles or Abrams tanks or F-16s would have no material effect on western security.

 

[TransTrender]

Don't like Johnson but those are positive optics.

 

[Dr.D00p]

The fact they had to have a referrendum and their democratically elected devolved parliament wishes to separate from England shows their grievances are genuine and not down to "brain washing children". I would wager it has more to do with not wanting to be governed by the English tory party they do not vote for nor share basic values with.

English nationalists have no sense of hypocracy : "leave EU take back control! The rest of you stay in uk we are stronger together! Free ukraine! Its not Putin's, but UK nations - don't consider yourselves a country you are just part of the uk!"

I'd like to reply to this insulting, bullshit post, with exactly why its complete bullshit, but seeing as it ventures into politics not relevant to the thread, I will (frustratingly) leave it alone.

Anyway, Ukraine..

 

[NoLootBoxDev]

I hope they all get wrecked



Hope they work as target practice

 

[akimbo009]

Deleting... May have been fake.

 

[Gp1]

 

[sinnergy]

I think that's only partly true. The supplies we've seen up till now are also old, and barely maintained or otherwise insufficient. Food may get better, but I really doubt it. They've captured supply food trucks and they were half full, mostly rotten vegetables and little or no protein. It's not like that because they are going bad, they are like that cause they are badly supplied as a rule.

While their back lines will be more protected it won't help since they are advancing - once they are anywhere past Donbas they'll be getting shlacked. They haven't proven they can hold extended positions for any real length of time, and that's not just supply problems.

And the s300s are coming on line so it's still a contested air space - and their pilots actually suck and are old and fat.

It's going to be harder, but feels like stalemate not success. Though they did replace their commander..

Russia has replaced commander of military operations in Ukraine, says Western official- Republic World

www.republicworld.com

They are all thrown under the bus next month a other one.

 

[LimanimaPT]

Great. It's time for the EU, NATO and others to send real armament to ukraine and that includes planes and helicopters.
This has gone too far several weaks ago...

 

[Dr.D00p]

Good to know we're at least paying Russia back in full, and more, for the Salisbury chemical weapons poisonings a few years back, even if ultimately its the Ukrainians pulling the trigger...

 

[Y0ssarian]

 

[MisterFalcon]

Mount them on one of the seized superyachts.

 

[EviLore]

Mount them on one of the seized superyachts.

It should be mentioned that a single oligarch megayacht would pay for around one million sets of level IV body armor at retail prices.

Meanwhile...

 

[M1chl]

This was pretty fucking stupid:

 

[Lukaku's First Touch]

Another addition to long running series "not all Russians"

Ive seen so many brutal videos online where even I flinched (and Ive seen a lot) , but if a video comes out of this guy getting slowy sliced up with a knife like the mexican cartel does it,I would smile all video long.

I havent seen the video, but some screencaps and it's probably the most fucked up thing I've seen.

 

[sinnergy]

Ive seen so many brutal videos online where even I flinched (and Ive seen a lot) , but if a video comes out of this guy getting slowy sliced up with a knife like the mexican cartel does it,I would smile all video long.

I havent seen the video, but some screencaps and it's probably the most fucked up thing I've seen.

I am not watching this shit .. I hope someone liquidates him.

 

[Bitmap Frogs]

Good, good, good. This is how they destroy themselves.

 

[M1chl]

Ive seen so many brutal videos online where even I flinched (and Ive seen a lot) , but if a video comes out of this guy getting slowy sliced up with a knife like the mexican cartel does it,I would smile all video long.

I havent seen the video, but some screencaps and it's probably the most fucked up thing I've seen.

I am not going to watch, especially now, when the new general is that one which is responsible in war crimes at Syria. It won't get better for a long time sadly. People around here are talking about second impact, just so can destroy more lives, because people are getting back to Ukraine.

 

[Bitmap Frogs]

Kherson Update:

Confirmed news are the Ukrainians have taken a village by the sea and the Orcs have lost a company trying to retake it (refresher, orc companies go from 18 to 200 orcs). There's been also confirmed reports that Bilozerka has seen fire and explosions but that could be mortar fire, etc.

The Blue line represents the possible situation of the front.
The Purple line represents a supposition of where things will be moving into the future, either into the Kherson Airport or into Kherson proper using the marshlands to cover their advancing flank.

Remember that we know Russia is trying to Donbass Kherson by stablishing a Kherson People's Republic to have a buffer between Ukraine and Crimea - This must be denied!

For anyone thinking Ukrainians are going to cross the Dnieper by swimming I want to remind them the river is 300-500 meters wide and March-April is peak flow.

 

[Sakura]

I'm sorry but this makes zero sense given it's been Putin's playbook for 20+ years. This is by design, it's not an accident. You seem to know this yourself later on in the post:


You're right in that Putin sees a logic to these tactics. He cares not one whit for the international condemnation and the pariah status he's given to his nation, much less for the innocents whose suffering and death he's caused. That's why this sort of heinous, evil brutality is a feature, not a bug.

I think there is a fundamental difference in gunning down random civilians in a city you already control, just because, versus attacking civilian areas in places the enemy controls.
The former is what I don't think Putin necessarily wanted or ordered, as it serves no real purpose, and I'm not sure that's been a part of his playbook for 20 years.

 

[Mokus]

 

[Deleted member 1159]

The former is what I don't think Putin necessarily wanted or ordered, as it serves no real purpose,

The whole war serves no real purpose from the standpoint of someone with a functioning moral compass. Unfortunately, those aren’t the people in charge. Trying to understand their actions from the standpoint of someone who respects the dignity of human life and rights doesn’t work. They’re violent thugs, no better than the drug cartels who skin people alive.

and I'm not sure that's been a part of his playbook for 20 years.

Please read up on Chechnya and Georgia then. Putin’s entire playbook is compliance through intimidation through violence.

 

[DaleinCalgary]

This is one thing Ive wanted to be sent to Ukraine for a while. Sink those ships in the black sea that cant be reinforced as the Black Sea is closed.

 

[M1chl]

Far East of Russia, probably soon we will have one less dictator