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Russia begins Invasion of Ukraine
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kuncol02
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NoLootBoxDev
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They continue to make threats to these other 2 countries. Do they have a brain in Russia? Should the world will be what they want and how they want it? This is a really stupid way of thinking.
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Russia warns Sweden and Finland against Nato membership
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chromhound
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Russian Kart Racer Allegedly Shows Nazi Salute During Italian National Anthem
Artem Severiukhin has since been dropped by his team
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With sanctions and Russia ending cooperation on the International Space Station there's irony to be found in the juxtaposition of this Russian celebration with their recent decline.
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The Caesarian event may be what's needed to deliver the Russian people with the trajectory of Russian aerospace.
akimbo009
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Hope it's not true. Seems like a thing Russia would do to close the door on the city, but hope not.
Is that a red line? I have no idea what stops this anymore.
Wildebeest
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As far as they see it, any European country is far too small to be considered anything other than a joke for them to dictate terms to. They only respect big countries with huge tracts of land, like Greenland or Antarctica.
NoLootBoxDev
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Sadly I do not think this is a red line, NATO/EU, or anyone else won't lift a finger for this (and yes, I understand why). Who will say they place chemical weapons? The POS Russian army won't let anyone get out and kill/burn evidence.
Bitmap Frogs
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I found this illustration rather moving.
Roll Fizzlebeef
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Tams
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A look at the Switchblades that are being sent.
I reckon this could cause the Russians quite a lot of trouble. Let's just hope they don't manage to capture any unused ones (that if threatened with capture, the Ukrainians just fire the lot off - but I have my doubts there).
That really depends on the morale of the Russians in Kherson.
In pretty much all modern day sieges of cities, the defenders have been defending their home. That's a massive boost to morale and incentive to stay, fight, and suffer. Would the Russians there, especially after what we've seen of supposedly even their better troops, really stay and fight? And from the state of Russian logistics so far, would they even have enough resources to stay?
With modern technology, it shouldn't be too hard for the Ukrainians to surround Kherson with limited forces and move the frontline elsewhere. It just needs surveillance and some rapid reaction forces to counter any breakouts.
Of course, the bigger question is if Ukraine can push the frontline back, especially with the Russian reinforcement of the east.
Liljagare
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Reading reports of respitory failure, and failure of bodily/motor functions on Swedish news.
Did those fuckers use Sarin gas against Mariupol???
"Initial symptoms following exposure to sarin are a runny nose, tightness in the chest, and constriction of the pupils. Soon after, the person will have difficulty breathing and they will experience nausea and drooling. As they continue to lose control of bodily functions, they may vomit, defecate, and urinate. This phase is followed by twitching and jerking. Ultimately, the person becomes comatose and suffocates in a series of convulsive spasms. Moreover, common mnemonics for the symptomatology of organophosphate poisoning, including sarin, are the "killer Bs" of bronchorrhea and bronchospasm because they are the leading cause of death,[7] and SLUDGE – salivation, lacrimation, urination, defecation, gastrointestinal distress, and emesis (vomiting). Death may follow in one to ten minutes after direct inhalation.
Sarin has a high volatility (ease with which a liquid can turn into vapour) relative to similar nerve agents, making inhalation very easy, and may even absorb through the skin. A person's clothing can release sarin for about 30 minutes after it has come in contact with sarin gas, which can lead to exposure of other people.[8]"
Did those fuckers use Sarin gas against Mariupol???
"Initial symptoms following exposure to sarin are a runny nose, tightness in the chest, and constriction of the pupils. Soon after, the person will have difficulty breathing and they will experience nausea and drooling. As they continue to lose control of bodily functions, they may vomit, defecate, and urinate. This phase is followed by twitching and jerking. Ultimately, the person becomes comatose and suffocates in a series of convulsive spasms. Moreover, common mnemonics for the symptomatology of organophosphate poisoning, including sarin, are the "killer Bs" of bronchorrhea and bronchospasm because they are the leading cause of death,[7] and SLUDGE – salivation, lacrimation, urination, defecation, gastrointestinal distress, and emesis (vomiting). Death may follow in one to ten minutes after direct inhalation.
Sarin has a high volatility (ease with which a liquid can turn into vapour) relative to similar nerve agents, making inhalation very easy, and may even absorb through the skin. A person's clothing can release sarin for about 30 minutes after it has come in contact with sarin gas, which can lead to exposure of other people.[8]"
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M1chl
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Well that's what they've used in Syria, so would make sense
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God, if they really used chemical weapons I really hope there's some sort of painful response from the West. I feel like every time Russia escalates and there's no response that hits them in the balls, they'll take that as permission to continue escalating.
I feel like the more likely scenario is that the shock of the ongoing genocide occurring in Europe is going to wear off and EU and NATO countries will move the "red line" again, just like what happened in Syria.
I feel like the more likely scenario is that the shock of the ongoing genocide occurring in Europe is going to wear off and EU and NATO countries will move the "red line" again, just like what happened in Syria.
FunkMiller
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Good luck with that. I think we've seen ample evidence that the will does not exist in the west to actually do something. Too much lovely gas being pumped in to keep economies strong.
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Batiman
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I thought this was that stock photo guy for a second. Lol.
M1chl
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You mean the infamous "deep concern"?
I never understood such sentiments or their tolerance by people. This war is a horrific situation of course. So many innocent lives were lost so it's understandable to have extreme levels of anger. I've lost friends in this war. In fact my ex-girlfriend is from Kharkiv and is now a refugee in Poland. Despite this I could never understand wishing collective death on a nation based on the action of some. It just seems like such a horrible attitude to have. I know a 7 year Russian girl whose whole world is taking care of her mom, cat, and drawing pretty pictures of animals. She doesn't have an ounce of hate in her towards anyone or anything. Does she deserve a slow death for this too?
I just hope that when this is over that this isn't the general sentiment and that cooler heads prevail. Look at all the good that Germany is doing now.. taking in refugees from all over the world, providing aid, donating to their neighbors in need. If we had the same negative line of thinking back after the world wars then none of those heroic actions would be possible today.
FunkMiller
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Not once have I asked for, or wanted the actual *death* of human beings. Read my comments again.
To clarify: I mean the death of Russia as the totalitarian dictatorship it is now. The death of the current Russian state. The death of the country, not its people. Big difference.
...but you probably knew that already, huh?
You mentioned Germany? It required the absolute destruction of the Nazi state to enable it to re-emerge as a positive contributor to the world. I want that level of punishment wrought on Russia for the crimes its committed.
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No I didn't know that. You said "slow fucking death of that nation." Nation means people... not state. There was no mention of a dictatorship or the Russian government. With that being said I'll accept that it's a misunderstanding since you clarified.
I've seen the same kind of sentiment in this thread a few times in the past few weeks with no one saying anything in retaliation.
FunkMiller
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What sentiment is that exactly?
Batiman
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No but for real. Does the average Russian citizen believe this crap? Honest question. I can’t imagine they’re that badly brainwashed….
Never mind dude. You already clarified so I am moving on.
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I needed a little TOS today
NoLootBoxDev
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Look at North Korea. There is a lot of shit invented by their dear leader. Who is going to disprove it? Russia is going to be the same shit hole.
recykle
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Russia keeps on over stepping the line, while Europe and NATO are trying to play from the side lines. NATO simply has got to step in and ignore Russia's nuclear threats. eviscerate everything Russian in Ukraine and don't touch Russian land unless they are firing from those positions. Force Putin's hand to make a decision, because thus far he has been pushing off his responsibility and failures onto his subordinates. A nuclear attack has to come from him and only him, which I don't believe he has the ball to do as it would also be a suicidal move for him and his people.
Lord Panda
The Sea is Always Right
NATO's charter is ostensibly built on self-defense and mutual protection, yet it didn't stop them from intervening in Bosnia, Herzegovina or in Libya.
I hope they finally grow a pair and enforce a no-fly zone across Ukraine.
I hope they finally grow a pair and enforce a no-fly zone across Ukraine.
NATO should at the very least send in some troops and say that they're just 'peacekeeping' forces and give Putin a taste of his own medicine. They can be kept away from combat areas, and could assist with rebuilding, logistics, supply lines, training, etc. That would certainly scare Putin and make him think intensely about his actions. And If any of those troops happen to be injured or killed as a result of botched long range missile strikes, then that just gives NATO an excuse to wipe out as many Russian forces in the country as possible.
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The calculus changes when the aggressor has the ability to annihilate mankind
Lord Panda
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I’m on team #putinisfullofshit. But NATO understandably doesn’t want to take that bet, which is why Putin and his buddies get to do whatever the fuck they want.
Without the threat of nukes, Putin and his military and allies would have been steamrolled.
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Absolutely. I think it’s understandable to not make a bet on the annihilation of humanity, small as the chance may be. Not intervening when we could wipe the floor with Russia is just a morally abhorrent position to take, but it’s that or perhaps an even more morally abhorrent positions to take…but we’re not sure. That’s what makes it hard, and why I don’t envy anyone trying to decide what’s best. We don’t know for a fact a no fly zone or other intervention will lead to nuclear war, but if it’s a real possibility…we really need to do everything possible to avoid it
Havoc2049
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Props to the Ukrainian Marine Corps. Hard Corps.
Mariupol: Battle for key port city continues, Ukraine says
Mariupol's deputy mayor denies reports that Russia is close to victory in his city.www.bbc.com
Mariupol might finally be out of time, but there are going to be some incredible stories to come out of this battle
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Sabaton needs to do a song about these brave warriors.
This is about The Battle of Wizna, at the begining of WWII, where a Polish Army unit of 720 soldiers fought against 40k Germans.
MisterFalcon
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This is a museum for the fringe New Chronology movement: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_chronology_(Fomenko)
It claims that most of history as it was written was falsified by a vast conspiracy to hide the greatness of ancient Russia. With Russia in its current state I have no idea if this will now become official but one of the most well known followers was Gary Kasparov who is very anti-Putin.
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Tams
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I teach primary/elementary kids and the fourth grade textbook had a Russian greeting in it (complete with video). Even kids this age (9-10) immediately responded negatively to it. Pretty the whole class in unison. Awkward...
Russia have well and truly fucked their image in the developed world.
Russia have well and truly fucked their image in the developed world.
Lord Panda
The Sea is Always Right
Doesn’t help that some of these Russian shitheads living abroad are openly celebrating the war, and Putin.
Sorry about linking to The Sun:
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Patrick S.
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No wonder. Here in Germany, many Russians behave as if the place fucking belongs to them.
Ionian
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Hard to feel sorry for them but bloody hell at the same time. This will just make things even worse when he appoints animals in their place. (not that the ones jailed aren't, just the replacements will be worse).
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FunkMiller
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I would be amazed if there aren’t back room talks going on about getting rid of Putin. Those scumbags must look at what’s happening to their fellow Dumas rats, and seriously worrying about their futures.
IDKFA
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Saw the demonstration in Germany the other day of pro-Putin Russian supporters . I was shocked to learn there was only one arrest. With the counter demonstration as well, I was expecting it to all kick off.
Ionian
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Bojji
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People are commenting that it was Ukrainians that were killed but who knows...
But fuck me, this is like Michel Bay level of blowing shit up.
MidGenRefresh
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Apparently those killed were Ukrainanes. They mistaken that thank for an ally. I've seen the aftermath. It's not pretty. RIP.
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