NoLootBoxDev
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Hopefully is true, waiting for confirmation
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Russia begins Invasion of Ukraine
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G-Bus
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Not here to defend but how can we know this is true?
Sounds unbelievable to me and just kind of makes me think to the whole propaganda thing. It's happening on both sides.
akimbo009
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What am I "reductivism"... Do go on. Please, you keep insulting people you disagree with on this basis - what have I reduced? All I am hearing is that it "just so fucking complicated you couldn't possibly understand the plight of the German people, its all so hard".Oh this forum is perfectly capable of honest debate, you're just not interested in it due to your militant reductivism.
Hence my contention.
Le Pen is leader of the nationalistic far-right in France.
Her party, the Front National, engages in the same alt-right populism (anti vaxx, globalist conspiracy, corona denial, etc..) to stay relevant.
She's pretty much the worst and probably in Putin's pocket.
Also that particular quote is from 2017.
So what is it other than you just disagreeing with that I am "militantly reducing"?
M1chl
Currently Gif and Meme Champion
We don't 100%, but they speak Russian and it's from the source which leaked a lot of calls. So it's probably true. Also rapes are happening, that we know.
akimbo009
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'Absolutely right' to call Russia's actions in Ukraine genocide, Trudeau says
Even Trudeau gets it right....
Even Trudeau gets it right....
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Lukaku's First Touch
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Im a hard right voter, but if anyone of the party I normally vote for says shit like le penn I would drop them in a heartbeat. How can any politician in europe that isn't corrupted as fuck by Putin say stuff like that...
Tams
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The funerals of the mayor who's husband and son were also killed and then thrown in a shallow grave.
Politically, both, but especially Finland, overwhelmingly support joining. The wait is purely because, as democracies, and due to their systems of governance, they need to affirm that their peoples want to join.
You can tell all this, as Finland are looking to apply in June and Sweden after that. And there's no need for the application process to be long.
It's pretty much a done deal. There's really not much to it. Both Finland and Sweden meet all requirements (as flexible as they can be) for membership. They have strong militaries that already use many NATO standards and no border disagreements. They can afford to meet NATO spending requirements. They are strong democracies.
Politically, both, but especially Finland, overwhelmingly support joining. The wait is purely because, as democracies, and due to their systems of governance, they need to affirm that their peoples want to join.
You can tell all this, as Finland are looking to apply in June and Sweden after that. And there's no need for the application process to be long.
Ukrainian government has been credible. They have a lot to lose by making up minor claims, and little to gain considering the confirmed atrocities taking place.
Other intercepted phone calls also display the banality of war. Conversations about blenders and other household items being excitedly looted and bragged about to mom. We have plenty of video evidence corroborating these activities, so zero reason to fake a phone call about it. It’s hardly relevant with all the murder going around, and mostly goes to show the mindset of conscripts.
NoLootBoxDev
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️ The Ukrainian military aimed at the Russian missile cruiser "Moscow" - the head of the Odessa OVA Maxim Marchenko. "Neptune missiles guarding the Black Sea caused very serious damage to the Russian ship. Glory to Ukraine!"
Tams
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Hopefully is true, waiting for confirmation
If true, it's just another nail in the coffin in the image of Russian military might.
The Neptune missiles are subsonic.
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I was really confused until the follow up that the name of the ship was Moscow
Azurro
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It does, Russia having Nato countries on their border is treated as an aggression. One of the reasons they wanted to take over Ukraine, is that between Ukraine and Belarus, they could encircle the baltic countries very easily and take them over, counting on the indecision of Nato on whether it's worth it to trigger article 5 for those smaller countries. Putin is hungry to get back to the "glory" days of the USSR where they dominated Eastern Europe and most of Central Europe.
Finland and Sweden joining Nato is definitely a blow to them.
Praising Germany? Really? A lot of the money being used to fund this war comes directly from those morons and Putin knows the train won’t stop bc the govt is openly refusing to stop buying energy from them.
Germany is doing the absolute bare minimum especially considering a lot of the blood from ukraine is on their hands imho.
Mariupol is the hardest city in all of Ukraine to hold afaik. The ground is too open and gives Russia the advantage. It’s not over by a long shot.
akimbo009
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Cooler heads..... like, Fucking Putin's head cooling off once we install an air-conditioning vent into his skull.
Tams
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Not only that, but Ukraine still have a lot of forces left that are even pushing back Russian forces (not the ones taking over from retreating Russians) in places, and Russia are still struggling to take Mariupol fully. One of the easiest objectives and they're still fucking up.
This isn't the 'beginning of the end',
akimbo009
, lol, it's the end of the very beginning.
FunkMiller
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What the hell does any of this have to do with France’s weak sauce response, which was the point of my post?
…and France and Germany run the EU. Let’s not be silly and claim anything different, eh?
You can complain about the use of the broad terms ‘EU’ when we criticise France and Germany’s actions, but we all know they run the show, mate. No matter how much you might not like to admit it.
And all those figures you quoted about financial aid? Dwarved by Germany’s ongoing payments to Russia for gas. Until that ends, your moral high ground is actually quicksand.
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Tams
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It looks like Mariupol is almost over.
This article about a British man who is in the 36th Marines says that they are surrendering. I think that source is reliable given the provenance, and it makes sense. Of course, it will be a unit by unit basis, based on their circumstances.
The last holdouts may well be the Azov regiment. As they have been greatly inflated, mostly by Russia, and the Russians see them all as Nazis (there will be some Nazi sympathisers there at least), I could see them being them fighting to the very last. I doubt they'd survive capture, nor their pride allow them to be captured.
Obligatory, FUCK RUSSIA.
This article about a British man who is in the 36th Marines says that they are surrendering. I think that source is reliable given the provenance, and it makes sense. Of course, it will be a unit by unit basis, based on their circumstances.
The last holdouts may well be the Azov regiment. As they have been greatly inflated, mostly by Russia, and the Russians see them all as Nazis (there will be some Nazi sympathisers there at least), I could see them being them fighting to the very last. I doubt they'd survive capture, nor their pride allow them to be captured.
Obligatory, FUCK RUSSIA.
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Catphish
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This might be a derp ass question, but I have those from time to time.
What are the chances, given how shit Russia's military capabilities generally seem to be at the moment, that they are able to get their hands on some of the modern kit being sent to the Ukrainians, and reverse engineer it to give themselves a tech boost?
What are the chances, given how shit Russia's military capabilities generally seem to be at the moment, that they are able to get their hands on some of the modern kit being sent to the Ukrainians, and reverse engineer it to give themselves a tech boost?
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There's a lot more that goes into reverse engineering than just capturing the equipment and looking at it. Even if they were able to fully grasp how everything works immediately, it's not like they can just begin fabricating it next week, especially with how sanctions are cutting off a number of their supplies. These anti-tank missile systems are made through collaboration between several countries, for example. Russia won't be able to copy it any time soon, especially if their high tech drones use Canon DSLRs or whatever for their optics.
StreetsofBeige
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Sorry, not understanding what's going on. Friendly fire?
akimbo009
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Ukrainians thought they were waving down another Ukrainian tank, but it was actually Russians.
Vestal
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Good move and even better that it was "leaked". The way this Admin has leveraged the "leaking" of information surrounding this whole ordeal has been top notch.
EverydayBeast
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A lot of people are avoiding Russian products.
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Damage control: we’re not owned, we owned ourselves!
strange headache
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You were complaining about the EU's apparent lack of military aid, because yet again you don't care about the whole picture but are only interested in validating your euro-skepticism. Hence why you jumped on that tweet.
I showed you that France's and the EU's contributions are on par with other countries, which doesn't fit the narrative you're trying to spin here. It's as simple as that.
Also what moral high ground? I'm not the one putting myself on a pedestal and desperately trying to point fingers here.
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FunkMiller
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The tweet I was on about literally states that France - as a major EU power - have given less than a very small EU country. What parallel dimension do you live in?
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NoLootBoxDev
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Ria Novosti confirms ammunition detonation on the cruiser Moskva, also reports that the crew is fully evacuated
https://ria.ru/20220414/kreyser-1783435471.html
If everyone evacuated...
https://ria.ru/20220414/kreyser-1783435471.html
If everyone evacuated...
Roll Fizzlebeef
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If the ships magazine went off, and they evacuated everyone, its now burning wreck that will either sink, or end up a burned unusable mess. And i think there is a storm going on right now.
Russia has 3 of this class i think, and this being the only 1 in the black sea. This is a huge loss for russia
Russia has 3 of this class i think, and this being the only 1 in the black sea. This is a huge loss for russia
Maiden Voyage
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NoLootBoxDev
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I hope it sinks in the deepest part, with everything inside. I will be like this all day tomorrow:
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Honestly I'm not going to be picky about exactly how it sunk, it's great news either way, the only variable is how hard we should laugh about whether their misfortune was self-inflicted or not.
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Absolute fuckin mad lads, let’s GO!
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Absolute fuckin mad lads, let’s GO!
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Halo is Back
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Oh, it's a massive blow. I wonder how Putin will respond to this
FunkMiller
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He won’t do a damn thing other than sabre rattle, because, as is readily apparent from everything he does, he’s fucking terrified of NATO.
I’d imagine we’re trying to push for their joining as swiftly as possible partially to see just what he does do. It should nicely expose his actual weakness.
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Nobody_Important
“Aww, it’s so...average,” she said to him in a cold brick of passion
I keep getting surprised by the Ukrainian forces, but at this point I feel like I should be less surprised at the ukrainians and more shocked by the abject stupidity of the Russians.
Because Ukraine has shown itself to be formidable and resourceful and meanwhile the Russians continue to show that they can't find their ass with both hands.
Because Ukraine has shown itself to be formidable and resourceful and meanwhile the Russians continue to show that they can't find their ass with both hands.
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Nobody_Important
“Aww, it’s so...average,” she said to him in a cold brick of passion
Alx
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Can’t say much about past or future ressource allocations to Ukraine from France, but the Parliament has been on hold since February due to the ongoing presidential elections , so whatever amount we’re ready to allocate to Ukrainians, it can’t be voted until end of April.
I read they did a great trick , something that could come from my mind .. they send a drone and when the ship was busy with the drone they fired a NeptuneRia Novosti confirms ammunition detonation on the cruiser Moskva, also reports that the crew is fully evacuated
https://ria.ru/20220414/kreyser-1783435471.html
If everyone evacuated...
the Russian army is full of rocket scientists 
M1chl
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FunkMiller
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On the Moskva... the Ukrainians are saying it was hit by a Ukrainian torpedo... but are they really going to admit it if they used a weapon provided by NATO?
Have a feeling we're going to hear about a lot of 'Ukrainian' armaments in the next few weeks...
Have a feeling we're going to hear about a lot of 'Ukrainian' armaments in the next few weeks...
Lukaku's First Touch
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There is a lot of videos of them already using NATO weapons or vehicles. Countries even openly say they are supplying the weapons so I don't see the problem. Russia currently is all talk towards NATO and everyone is calling their bluff, like Sweden / Finland trying to join NATO soon.
Dr.D00p
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Don't underestimate Ukraine's indigenous weapon development & defence industry. Its much bigger than you think, its just up until now no one in the West really paid much attention to it, but they produce alot of home grown armaments for their armed forces, only the really big ticket items like warships & jets are purchased from abroad.
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