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This is coming in piping hot so take with a grain of salt, but seems impossible they didn’t have a ton of casualties if there were substantial munition detonations onboard
Some funny shit:
And some fucking sad shit..:
Discussion on the method of the attack
Sinking confirmed by Russia now...
Guess it's not on fire anymore
Sinking confirmed by Russia now...
Guess it's not on fire anymore
Sinking confirmed by Russia now...
Guess it's not on fire anymore
Sinking confirmed by Russia now...
Guess it's not on fire anymore
Sinking confirmed by Russia now...
Guess it's not on fire anymore
For all we know he’s already tried and failed a dozen timesSo what will Putin respond with after a humiliation like this? How close are we getting to him dropping the first nuke over Ukraine?
I am asking since I live in Norway and have we borders with Russia. So do not really want this to go that far.For all we know he’s already tried and failed a dozen times
Sinking confirmed by Russia now...
Guess it's not on fire anymore
Sinking confirmed by Russia now...
Guess it's not on fire anymore
I am asking since I live in Norway and have we borders with Russia. So do not really want this to go that far.
I wouldn't stress about it. Nuclear weapons are not realistically in the table. Putin is crazy, but he isn't that crazy.I am asking since I live in Norway and have we borders with Russia. So do not really want this to go that far.
Rest in pieces.Rest in piss.
Probably something like thisFor all we know he’s already tried and failed a dozen times
So what will Putin respond with after a humiliation like this? How close are we getting to him dropping the first nuke over Ukraine?
In russia "defence", when youI haven't been here for a month.
It's amazing how Ukraine has resisted, from the beginning I though Russia was the second army of the world and would just steam rolled Ukraine in a week.
The Russian army is certainly not a first world army, their image was just propaganda.
Rust in place.Rest in pieces.
So what will Putin respond with after a humiliation like this? How close are we getting to him dropping the first nuke over Ukraine?
As much as people like to bandy around borderline conspiracies, getting footage of combat just isn't a priority. Why risk losing an asset just for some propaganda (not necessarily the bias type)?
It's good to be skeptical and critical, but often there isn't some big cover up.
This isn't for our entertainment.
This is coming in piping hot so take with a grain of salt, but seems impossible they didn’t have a ton of casualties if there were substantial munition detonations onboard
Putin promised >7 million rubles to each of the families of Russian's killed in action in Ukraine. This is why they are claiming the sinking of the Moskva was an accident.
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That doesn't mean they have footage, and as you admitted, if they do it may well not be good quality. Considering even footage of ground forces firing on drones often isn't of good quality, you know, it may just well be they have better things to do than film it.First off, it was the Ukrainian defence minister himself that disclosed the operation against the Russian flagship. This was later walked back by his adviser who would not confirm nor deny the event happened (it happened).
Secondly such footage would further highlight what a colossal failure Russia’s military is (something we already know), as well as serve as a huge morale booster especially in the shadow of Mariupol’s imminent fall and continued Russian war crimes across Ukraine. I assumed that Ukraine haven’t disclosed this footage due to OPSec reasons, and perhaps even the footage was not that good given the operation was conducted during stormy and difficult conditions.
That doesn't mean they have footage, and as you admitted, if they do it may well not be good quality. Considering even footage of ground forces firing on drones often isn't of good quality, you know, it may just well be they have better things to do than film it.
As I said, tone the skepticism down. Most things aren't lies. Well, unless your Russian then almost everything is.