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Russia begins Invasion of Ukraine
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He's not saying we'd blow up the pipeline, JFC. Germany shut down Nord Stream 2 just like he said. The project got shut down when Russia invaded, no explosions required. There's no fucking way we blew up the pipelines.
I can't believe someone would interpret it literally
FunkMiller
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Biden is referring to Nordstream2 here… which was shit canned six months ago.
But Yes, yes! It’s all a massive conspiracy!!!
America deliberately attacked the fuel supply of its NATO ally.
That’s much more likely than the Russians staging an attack to attempt to create division in the organisation that’s about to grind them into paste.
Honest to god, the smooth brainery….
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Kenpachii
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Dude should have never stated it. If he said 2 and not mend one doesn't matter. The guy can't talk for shit straight everybody knows it. He misspeaks all the time and on top of it, its still one of the pipelines and he basically stated he would bring a end towards one of it.
U can defend this shit all u want. He set himself up for it. If russia bombed it, its a smart move. Because if anything links back to the US, it could be fast over for them and there war supports in Ukraine when the EU gets triggered.
U can defend this shit all u want. He set himself up for it. If russia bombed it, its a smart move. Because if anything links back to the US, it could be fast over for them and there war supports in Ukraine when the EU gets triggered.
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Can’t Git Gud
Kenpachii
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The last thing I would want is for us troops to leave
Jup, lets hope germany takes it easy then. but germany being germany they probably will want to push there luck.
NoLootBoxDev
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Regarding the pipeline, after reading a lot and here are my thoughts on it:
1) Ruzzia most likely did it to create trust issues
2) There is only 1 functional pipeline that goes through Ukraine
3) Ukraine does not have submarines on the baltic sea for this
4) Ruzzia has submarines there
5) Ruzzia can say that the last pipeline is a valid target and try to blackmail
6) It makes no sense for Ukraine to do this since they have good faith (and need it) to keep getting equipment
7) Putler is old and maybe going insane, thus was a stupid order without any reasonable thought on it
8) Fuck Putler
9) Fuck him again just in case
10) Was just an accident (unlikely since it was both)
1) Ruzzia most likely did it to create trust issues
2) There is only 1 functional pipeline that goes through Ukraine
3) Ukraine does not have submarines on the baltic sea for this
4) Ruzzia has submarines there
5) Ruzzia can say that the last pipeline is a valid target and try to blackmail
6) It makes no sense for Ukraine to do this since they have good faith (and need it) to keep getting equipment
7) Putler is old and maybe going insane, thus was a stupid order without any reasonable thought on it
8) Fuck Putler
9) Fuck him again just in case
10) Was just an accident (unlikely since it was both)
NoLootBoxDev
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NoLootBoxDev
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Cannot warrant this is true but makes sense:
"Gazprom" threatens to stop deliveries through the only working transit - the Ukrainian GTS.
After the mysterious explosions that disabled two Russian gas pipelines, Nord Stream 1 and Nord Stream 2, Moscow issued an ultimatum to Kyiv and the EU.
"Gazprom" announced its readiness to block the last pipeline through which Russian gas today goes to Europe - the Ukrainian GTS. Gazprom made an ultimatum statement on September 27 on its official Telegram channel .
Gazprom has said it intends to impose sanctions on Ukrainian Naftogaz as a retaliatory measure for a new lawsuit filed in international arbitration.
In fact, this is an ultimatum. Moscow is demanding that Kyiv abandon the trial, threatening to cut off all gas supplies to Europe in case of refusal. " Gazprom considers the filing of Naftogaz Ukrainy's appeal as an unfriendly step and a continuation of dishonest behavior ... further attempts by Naftogaz Ukrainy to seek consideration of the dispute in the IAC (International Court of Arbitration - ed.) may lead to the fact that the Russian state authorities there will be every reason to impose a sanctions regime on Naftogaz Ukrainy," the Kremlin company said in a statement.
It is noteworthy that on the eve of the ultimatum, two Russian gas pipelines to Europe were put out of action by explosions, which were extremely successful for the Russian Federation.
The incidents played into the hands of Moscow in its latest round of gas blackmail.
According to the current contract, Gazprom is obliged to pump 40 billion cubic meters per year or 42 million cubic meters per day through the Ukrainian GTS.
The document was concluded on the basis of the "pump or pay" principle, which is not very beneficial for Moscow. This means that even in the event of a decrease or even a stop in pumping, Gazprom is obliged to pay for full transit.
https://news.dialog.ua/259464_1664307874
"Gazprom" threatens to stop deliveries through the only working transit - the Ukrainian GTS.
After the mysterious explosions that disabled two Russian gas pipelines, Nord Stream 1 and Nord Stream 2, Moscow issued an ultimatum to Kyiv and the EU.
"Gazprom" announced its readiness to block the last pipeline through which Russian gas today goes to Europe - the Ukrainian GTS. Gazprom made an ultimatum statement on September 27 on its official Telegram channel .
Gazprom has said it intends to impose sanctions on Ukrainian Naftogaz as a retaliatory measure for a new lawsuit filed in international arbitration.
In fact, this is an ultimatum. Moscow is demanding that Kyiv abandon the trial, threatening to cut off all gas supplies to Europe in case of refusal. " Gazprom considers the filing of Naftogaz Ukrainy's appeal as an unfriendly step and a continuation of dishonest behavior ... further attempts by Naftogaz Ukrainy to seek consideration of the dispute in the IAC (International Court of Arbitration - ed.) may lead to the fact that the Russian state authorities there will be every reason to impose a sanctions regime on Naftogaz Ukrainy," the Kremlin company said in a statement.
It is noteworthy that on the eve of the ultimatum, two Russian gas pipelines to Europe were put out of action by explosions, which were extremely successful for the Russian Federation.
The incidents played into the hands of Moscow in its latest round of gas blackmail.
According to the current contract, Gazprom is obliged to pump 40 billion cubic meters per year or 42 million cubic meters per day through the Ukrainian GTS.
The document was concluded on the basis of the "pump or pay" principle, which is not very beneficial for Moscow. This means that even in the event of a decrease or even a stop in pumping, Gazprom is obliged to pay for full transit.
https://news.dialog.ua/259464_1664307874
NoLootBoxDev
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Edit: It was a joke someone did...
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That's as good as the Downfall edits.
Bitmap Frogs
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DaleinCalgary
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they don't have any of that shit for troops
Chittagong
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Nato-chef: Flera nationer eller grupper kan ligga bakom
Flera länder eller grupper kan vilja genomföra sabotage mot gasledningarna Nord Stream 1 och 2. Det säger Arnold Dupuy, chef för en forskningsgrupp inom Nato som övade hybridhot i Sverige förra veckan. – Det kan vara grupper som är emot Kreml, kanske från Ukraina eller någon annanstans. Det kan...
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Nato is saying “there are many nations that could have bombed Nordstream”
Buggy Loop
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How reliable is this guy?
GladiusFrog
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NATO is talking too much , blowing up the gas pipe lines is clearly an escalation from Russia in international water. Basically they now declared war.
To have a successful response :As a start
Blow up the land bridge between Russia and the Ukraine , isolating Russia in the ability to sent troops.
After this a nice test case would be dropping a nice hydrogen bomb, no nuclear stuff yet .
To have a successful response :As a start
Blow up the land bridge between Russia and the Ukraine , isolating Russia in the ability to sent troops.
After this a nice test case would be dropping a nice hydrogen bomb, no nuclear stuff yet .
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Better to prepare for the worst as Putin is very finicky. Thinking this over rationally is over, it’s time to take worst case scenario’s into account (it always was, but the West is a bit slow)
sure .. many have submarines or capable material in international water .. this is just messaging to keep people calm for now .. see above points . Time for action.. we all know how Hittler needed to be handled. It’s time for people to wake up, we are on a collision course for World War 3, sadly … in this day and age . Time to act .
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What am I reading here ? We basically own freedom to the USA here in Europe .. the Allied forces , which includes USA/England and Canada . But people seem to have forgotten that we Europeans needed (we couldn’t do jack shit) so much help in world war 2, I didn’t,my English grandfather , who was a ww2 veteran told me stories while growing up . Our own Dutch government fled to England for example
and on top of this we had help from Russia, but only after Hitler was a problem for them and eventually Italy also sided with the west , but they where basically mini Hitler before .. and now they have a government that is far right again , history repeating ( all the pieces are almost the same as when WW2 started)And btw , The USA wouldn’t commit this act in the first place ..
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Buggy Loop
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Holy shit, to not go to war, imagine doing this, asking a friend to break your legs. It'll last 6 months, better hope the war has ended by then or it's next leg maybe?
NSFL video, i warn you
NSFL video, i warn you
InverseAgonist
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I'm curious. What country are you from and what level of education have you achieved? Specialize in anything?
Have you ever voted?
PS. A hydrogen bomb uses a nuclear fission bomb as the source of x-rays which are focused by a optimized lens to 'compress' and ignite the hydrogen in the fusion part of a hydrogen bomb. You can also put hydrogen in the core of a nuclear bomb to 'boost' it, but that's even more advanced and I highly doubt you're there yet.
Rentahamster
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Bro calm down
ManaByte
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There are people who think their launch capabilities are nothing. Cold War tech mixed with no maintenance means the button won’t even work.
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I dunno, Soyuz is Cold War tech and seems to be pretty reliable. I don’t think anyone wants to play a game of nuclear Russian roulette. I think there are better odds of Russian leadership not being quite insane enough to do it than their arsenal not working.
Hope I don’t have to eat that crow
InverseAgonist
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Those people are stupid and naïve. There is massive redundancy built into the nuclear triad of both nations. 491 Russian launch systems, between their ICBMs which they have been actively modernizing and actually have a very robust heavy throw capability and SLBMs and intercontinental bomber fleet with stand-off capability.
And the US is still reliant on their 1970s base Minuteman III fleet, albeit slowly updated since retiring their Reagan built MX Peacekeepers. So, it's not like modernization is a question exclusively on the Russian side -- which is why there is such redundancy in targeting. We are heavily reliant on the Trident D5 arm of the triad.
This thread is a cesspool of human intelligence.
Chiggs
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Well, the waters are being muddied.
https://www.forbes.com/sites/michae...rmer-polish-defense-minister/?sh=1f4c7e34312e
https://www.forbes.com/sites/michae...rmer-polish-defense-minister/?sh=1f4c7e34312e
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Tams
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I don't get why authoritarians always go for such high, completely unrealistic and unbelievable percentages with such votes.
Well, I do, their egos need it, neigh, would allow no less. But considering they are in part to try and legitimise their actions and try and convince skeptics...
Well, I do, their egos need it, neigh, would allow no less. But considering they are in part to try and legitimise their actions and try and convince skeptics...
Tams
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Tams
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It's about maintenance, not the ability of the technology.
Soyuz is a) used so needs to be maintained and b) has new components for each launch.
Russia's nukes have largely been rotting in silos for decades. They are still a serious threat, but many would likely fail.
InverseAgonist
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You have no, absolutely zero clue what you're talking about. I will refer you to this article, Russian Modernization of Its ICBM Force, or this one by the Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists, Russian nuclear forces, 2019.
And there is a failure rate on all legs of the nuclear triad, Russian and American, and both sides routinely conduct planned testing and beyond that, it's why there is redundancy built in to the strike packages. This is like basic 101 level stuff.
How people can talk about things they know nothing about. Like beyond nothing, and do it with authority like they aren't dumb constantly amazes me. This entire thread is filled with it -- see my post responding to the guy who wants to drop hydrogen bombs, but not those nuclear bombs yet... yikes.
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IWasInSeinfeld
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Completely fake, they want to make it seem legit just because there is the word "Pedophile" in the play that gets repeated by that woman and the subtitles, but what she was telling was "We have people that can find some old pedophile in a remote village in some loose neck of the woods without any issues, but if we tell the wife of this pedophile about it, she will do a better job with an axe alone than those men that we sent for him".
akimbo009
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The guy who has literally saved Ukraine from Russia? Really.... ?
The asylum called and asked you be sent back.
You are better than this.
funkygunther
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Reckon he's talking about the person he quoted
akimbo009
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Kenpachii? Makes more sense.
Yes this thread is filed with people who think we will just walk this off
that’s even more amazing … yikes . And ask people their education level , like you are superior or something, even more amazing .
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Dirk Benedict
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No. This has to be faked?
FunkMiller
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It’s almost as if you have an existing axe to grind with the US and its president, and you’ll jump on anything that you think can contribute to your bias - even when there is zero evidence to support your position.
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Kenpachii
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Biden states he will blow up a pipeline and now a pipeline is blown up. That's all i am saying. We will see who did it at the end and if anything comes from it. I just state not a good look for the US.
Like if u don't want to be targeted for a crime u didn't commit, maybe not tell people before it happens u are the one that will do exactly that. 200 IQ strat.
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FunkMiller
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He didn’t say he’d blow up a pipeline though, did he? What he said was nordstream 2 would be stopped if Russia invaded. Which it was, straight away.
You anti-US types have jumped on this so hard, despite how weak sauce it is… probably indictative of your dislike of how they’re handling this conflict.
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RJMacready73
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There are morons that beleive the earth is flat, the earth is 6000yrs old and that Russia is a mighty country, i really wouldnt worry about them, let them shout nonsense at each other on Facebook
Tams
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Not on about Biden.
IWasInSeinfeld
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I agree with you, sir.
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