It’s crazy how underpowered NATO is without the US. You’d think they’d atleast be able to fight a defensive war if US was preoccupied. But they don’t even have enough AA to defend their own countries
What are you talking about here and other posts?
Nato doesn't have a standing army to begin with, so power wise, it's non existent. They are lent man power from countires in the alliance as a purely mutual defensive force
Fight a defensive war? Defend against an unknown attack you mean. If there was going to be a war that would bring Nato into it, it would not be fighting a defensive war
Theoretically, if an outside country somehow were able to sneak attack against the entirety of Nato and its allies, it would have to destroy everything, within minutes, so we're talking massive numbers of stealth bombers
and massive amounts of submarines parked off shore for every possible military target. Because if you don't get them all, every nato member, or ally for any country inside nato would then launch a full attack on said country. Together. At the same time. From every direction on earth. You get that right?
If, theoretically, if the USA was involved in a war somewhere else, you don't think that nato or its allies would be helping them to shorten that war, or help out its ally?? It's not usualy a 1v1 situation in the western hemisphere when it comes to "special military operations". Even without nato as a thing, each country will have its own alliances and treaties, bringing in help from across the globe
It's not a situation where the USA pulls man power from nato because its busy elsewhere, it has manpower enough to do both things and more. Nato didn't collapse at any time during the Vietnam war or any of the various Middle Eastern wars in the last 50 years, why would it now?
And why in gods name would we need AA covering every inch of Nato land? Russia can barely get a few planes and helicopters running, let alone flying into the heart of Europe. The rag tag, mis matched, old outdated stuff from around Europe that we've sent to Ukraine has held up very well and covers a good portion of whatever Russia flings at it, so imagine that, or better, coving a good part of nato teritory. Then include jets and ships helping to clear the skies too.
Nato underpowered lol. Look at what a little bit of nato training and weaponry has done to Ukraine in a few months against a corrupt and untrained Russia army. The way it looks, I'd happily send in the librarians and McDonald's workers from nato countires into Russia and expect to be done in a few weeks. If they needed support, then starbucks employees and nightclub bouncers would be called up