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Russia begins Invasion of Ukraine
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Iran finally decided to stop lying and not only admitted to selling Russia a bunch of drones, but basically said they're in the process of selling them ballistic missiles too.
Those missiles are going to be a major issue for Ukraine once they start being used....
Those missiles are going to be a major issue for Ukraine once they start being used....
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I have no idea why the U.S. isn’t immediately following suit and handing over tons of missiles to Ukraine.
Biden should have publicly made that a red line for the introduction of more advanced or more heavy weaponry. And as soon as the first missile gets fired, deliver a clutch of ATACMS. That’s how to wield power.
This pussyfooting before he loses control of Congress is quite weird.
Enough of the press statements of ‘standing by Ukraine to the end’ and do more of supplying stuff that can let Ukraine force Putin to give up.
ATACMS + Bradley fighting vehicles + F16 training.
winjer
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The US and EU can't just give equipment to Ukraine.
Ukraine has spent decades training for and using soviet equipment, so moving into westerns systems is not easy.
Even if the US was to flood the Ukraine with F-16, Ukraine couldn't use them.
The Mig's given from Poland are worth a lot more, because they can be used right away.
And we can't just strap a AIM-9 or AIM-120 into a Mig and hope it works.
For modern missile systems, tanks and weapons, a similar situation occurs. Although some require less training time.
One of the things that the UE and US have been doing is buying ammo for soviet systems, from former Warsaw Pact countries, and giving it to Ukraine.
Spaceman292
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Please France and Germany. We can supply you with many beets and Ladas.
NoLootBoxDev
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Nikodemos
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The Russian Orthodox Church not being declared an agent of Putin's regime is a huge oversight.
That’s why they need to conquer more land back before winter .
Yup they all lost it …
NoLootBoxDev
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LE COSY Montparnasse restaurant owner in France kicked out two Ukrainian refugee women, while smiling to the camera and repeating “Viva Putin”.
mobile.twitter.com/Koguty...
Good Job auto-destroying your own business!!!
Unless Putin backs down, This war will last for at least another year. That’s the reality of things. Nobody’s expecting they’d be able to fly F-16s now, and I never said they’d be short term solutions. But there’s enough time for at least half year of intensive training.
For ATACMS, no training required as they’re already proficient with HIMARS. Bradley Fighting Vehicles? A handful of weeks at most. And the US has thousands of these mothballed and scheduled for replacement.
Cyberpunkd
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Things like these require huge infrastructure - spare parts, repair facilities, maintenance, training. It’s not just about giving them tech and teaching them to use it.
The F-16 is an export fighter and was/is in use in multiple NATO countries. If there's something the US isn't lacking, it's the spare parts, repair facilities etc. Neighboring Poland flies F-16s, for example.
But let's not zero on just the F-16 part of what I said. There's plenty more weapons systems available that can be given to Ukraine now that Russia's crossing all sorts of lines with Ukraine.
winjer
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Aren't you forgetting maintenance.
It's necessary to train thousands of Ukrainian mechanics in western equipment.
IndoAssassin
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It’s going to be a long and cold winter for Ukrainians.
They have lost 30% of their power production this week alone.
Shits only going to intensify with the SRBM’s. Without Patriots there’s no protection against these. Apparently it’s a 6 month training program on Patriots
I don’t get how the intelligence agencies dropped the ball so hard on Iran.
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Financial toll on Ukraine of downing drones ‘vastly exceeds Russian costs’
Analysis reveals cost of shooting down cheap drones, but experts say deployment is sign of Moscow’s weakness
www.theguardian.com
This is gonna be a big problem. Cheap drones causing massive damage. Almost unstoppable. Iran selling missiles and drones without comeback, giving Russia the opportunity to take out the remaining 70% of Ukraine's power stations and the expensive, western sourced military equipment.
All gloves should come off when it comes to Iran, while maybe Ukraine should be supplied with as many drones as possible to take out the Russian power network and defences (fight fire with fire).
ThatStupidLion
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I agree that ukraine should attack over the border, but i think because its then seen as ukraine being an aggressor vs purely defensive.
But at what point is enough enough for ukraine to just say fuck it.
TransTrender
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Definitely at the "Fuck It" point.
Eviscerate Russia's infrastructure with across the border strikes.
Eviscerate Russia's infrastructure with across the border strikes.
Bitmap Frogs
Mr. Community
Gentlemen, get ready.
IMHO russia is planning to blow the dams and flow Kherson City + a good chunk of land on the east and west of the river.
This way he denies Ukraine a major victory - what are they going to celebrate, an empty, flooded, damaged beyond repair ruin?
He's already using his propaganda network to seed the message that ukraine is shelling dam locks.
IMHO russia is planning to blow the dams and flow Kherson City + a good chunk of land on the east and west of the river.
This way he denies Ukraine a major victory - what are they going to celebrate, an empty, flooded, damaged beyond repair ruin?
He's already using his propaganda network to seed the message that ukraine is shelling dam locks.
Lethal01
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Looks like they were handling some missles pretty carelessly and one blew up maybe causing others to explode to.
Woman is either in shock from seeing people get blown up or is perhaps got hit and is dying, could also not be a woman, serious screams aren't pretty.
It all sucks and I wish we could take the billions being put into death into cancer or brain disease research. I'd rather we all focus on trying to make it possible to live care free lives until we hit 300 years old than we have to brag about how much we know about death and killing.
IndoAssassin
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Power grid hit yesterday in Kyiv already repaired according to Operator Starsky.
Ukrainians are fast
Ukrainians are fast
Ironbunny
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We should have obliterated Russia months ago .. yet we let Putin go full Hitler.
TransTrender
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That's not a woman. That's a man with still functioning lungs and vocal cords. Not sure how the rest of the body is doing.
When you get blown up a lot of things go out the window.
From what I could tell they were carelessly tossing shells, casings, and powder in to the pit from a supply truck.
Clearly not how this is supposed to be handled.
There was a self-propelled artillery piece down there. I don't know if they were indiscriminately shelling some area or if this was a training exercise.
Before the explosion you could hear the cameraman say "Granata" which is grenade in Russian. Not sure if that was sabotage or an accident.
NoLootBoxDev
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Former Vice President Mike Pence on Wednesday warned against the growing populist tide in the Republican Party as he admonished “Putin apologists” unwilling to stand up to the Russian leader over his assault on Ukraine
apnews.com/articl...
Good for him to say the Truth, at the same time I do not understand why he tries to kiss Trump's ass, his republican career is done. I don't know, Is this a Religious thing to follow someone who is literally everything that Jesus is not?
winjer
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Let them get bitter and bitter. Soon they'll start pointing fingers at each other.
And then they'll turn at each other, trying to pin this failure of a war on a scape goat.
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You sure are generous with other people's stuff!
He's nuts. We (I'm american) destroy governments that didn't even do anything to us (Iraq). Just think of what current-day America would do to one that attacked us! It would make Hiroshima look like nothing.
Thaedolus
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If they’re willing to admit this much just imagine how badly they’re getting whooped.
akimbo009
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More HIMARS footage... It's a slow build up, but also has Russia gear cooking off.
I love that we're getting more HIMARS footage. Really looks like Ukraine is able to get close engagement now with both drones and HIMARS with little risk from Russian artillery.
If Russia wants to keep killing civilians while Ukraine kills their troops and equipment by the hundreds... It's a shitty trade off but eventually their army won't exist and the brave Ukrainians will.
Lukaku's First Touch
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and destroy all the iranian factories.
LimanimaPT
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The point being? Revenge? Kill civilians and become orcs themselves?
That will bring no advantage in this war, and would just be an excuse to use nukes. Ukraine MUST not attack Mordor.
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Agent_Nobody
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Yeah, you gotta send Hobbits…they just simply walk in.
But yeah, seriously NATO has already told them no after the car bomb thing. They want and need Ukraine to maintain moral high ground. They can’t go past the border.
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DJ12
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First job wipe out all the nukes or the capability to launch any. Nato (well us an uk) probably know every missiles exact location to the nearest centimeter.
The patriarch is ex kgb agent, what more needs to be said
Unfortunately scorched earth and Russia go together
Cyberpunkd
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Stupid post of the week. First of all Russia will launch the moment it detects the rockets, even if everyone in the Kremlin is incapacitated:
Dead Hand - Wikipedia
Second of all the missiles are also stored on submarines worldwide. Third of all the silos would probably withstand the blast.
EverydayBeast
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Russia is aggressive its who they are.
Agent_Nobody
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Even if Deadhand is real they created it in 1985, so we probably just need Matthew Broderick to hack it.
Bitmap Frogs
Mr. Community
They've got generations of fetal alcohol syndrome piling up, going back several hundred years. What do you expect.
NoLootBoxDev
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What pieces of shit, hope he sees the video and comes back home. Divorce her and leave them with nothing.
NoLootBoxDev
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And some want to give Putler what he wants and how he wants it. Give him more power and later Ruzzia will be a damn mess for the whole planet. Those bastards will be complaining: But we give him what he wanted, why we are his slaves?
Literally, this is what will happen:
IndoAssassin
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Shootout in Kherson
Brazen
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There's nothing immoral about hitting your enemy's military targets in time of war, regardless of where those targets are in relation to a man-made drawn border.
Russia has taken its gloves off, so the gloves need to be off if Ukraine wants to see this through.
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