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Russia begins Invasion of Ukraine

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TwinB242

Member
I'm perplexed by the apparent lack of force and initiative from the west to stop Iran from sending ballistic missiles to ruzzia. These missiles are going to make a lot of trouble for Ukraine because there's no currently no effective way for them to shoot them down.

NASAMs might be capable of that, but the west is seriously dragging their feet on getting them over to Ukraine. They promised the first 2 ages ago and even those haven't arrived yet.
 

Fenix34

I remove teeth
Today was another discussion with rus peoples.
They say Usa are lie, Ukraine too we are for russia.and support putler.
 

BadBurger

Many “Whelps”! Handle It!
I just watched an investigative news documentary on Russia, focused on Russian citizens - both those against and protesting the war, and those who have fell for the state indoctrination - and the effects of the sanctions.

Man, that country is so fucked. It seems hopeless for them. The effects of the extreme authoritarian policies and propaganda have set back nation decades.
 

Kerotan

Member
I wouldn't put it past him mobilising 800k. Most won't be frontline soldier's. For every 3 or 4 frontline soldier's you'd need 6 or 7 covering logistics behind the lines. So if he mobilised 800k then probably get another 200k soldier's.

I reckon after the current crop of 80k newly mobilised get butchered he'll do it. And I think that's his last hand. It will extend the war another year but ultimately they'll all die or get injured.
 

Tams

Gold Member
It baffles me. Israel had no problem supporting Azerbaijan after Iranian-adjacent Armenia kicked off the 2nd Karabagh war, and even told Pashinyan to kick rocks when he begged them to stop supplying weapons and munitions. They regularly hit Iranian militias and proxies across the Arab states. Iran is getting involved in Ukraine and they're basically radio silent. TB2 + Israeli Harops absolutely ruined russian equipment and tactics in occupied Karabagh.
They're probably more than happy with Iran using up their weapons stocks sending them to Russia. And the odd Iranian specialist getting cooked by Ukraine.

Sure, Iran are getting money for them, and some feedback on their weapons. Israel, out of anyone, will know that and have decided it's worth it.

All countries are selfish and greedy to some extent, but Israel are one of the worst.
 

Agent_4Seven

Tears of Nintendo
I just watched an investigative news documentary on Russia, focused on Russian citizens - both those against and protesting the war, and those who have fell for the state indoctrination - and the effects of the sanctions.

Man, that country is so fucked. It seems hopeless for them. The effects of the extreme authoritarian policies and propaganda have set back nation decades.
I'm from Russia and there's millions of people here (I'm one of them) who don't support Putin's fascist and terrorist regime in any way as well as totally unjustified colonial war against Ukraine and its people. But there's only so much (or more like almost nothing) you can do now and while almost 2 million armed to the teeth fascist pigs (Police, National Guards, FSB, FSO etc.) is against you, along with oppressive illegal laws etc., which are getting signed faster than you can effin' blink. Those murderous fuckers, killers and robbers took power and holding our people hustage for 20+ years making sure that no one can do anything about it. So, it'll take a herculean effort to take them down, but we will, with the help of Ukraine and other countries.

Ukraine will take back what's been taken from it and Russia along with Belarus will be free from fascist dictatorship and authoritarianism.
 
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BadBurger

Many “Whelps”! Handle It!
I'm from Russia and there's millions of people here (I'm one of them) who don't support Putin's fascist and terrorist regime in any way as well as totally unjustified colonial war against Ukraine and its people. But there's only so much (or more like almost nothing) you can do now and while almost 2 million armed to the teeth fascist pigs (Police, National Guards, FSB, FSO etc.) is against you, along with oppressive illegal laws etc., which are getting signed faster than you can effin' blink. Those murderous fuckers, killers and robbers took power and holding our people hustage for 20+ years making sure that no one can do anything about it. So, it'll take a herculean effort to take them down, but we will, with the help of Ukraine and other countries.

Ukraine will take back what's been taken from it and Russia along with Belarus will be free from fascist dictatorship and authoritarianism.

I wish the best for you and those like you in Russia. I honestly, with all my heart, do. Your country contributed so much to literature and the performing arts and so many other things. It's just that authoritarian leadership under Putin and those before him have wrecked things.
 

Cyberpunkd

Member
Russia along with Belarus will be free from fascist dictatorship and authoritarianism.
Sorry to bust your bubble, but last 400 years of history prove Russia never stopped being an aggressive and dominant state. Only the Tsar / Communists / Putin changes. You had less than 10 years with Yeltsin that tried to have a partner relations with other countries, he was seen as a weakling by Russian population.
 

FunkMiller

Member
I'm from Russia and there's millions of people here (I'm one of them) who don't support Putin's fascist and terrorist regime in any way as well as totally unjustified colonial war against Ukraine and its people. But there's only so much (or more like almost nothing) you can do now and while almost 2 million armed to the teeth fascist pigs (Police, National Guards, FSB, FSO etc.) is against you, along with oppressive illegal laws etc., which are getting signed faster than you can effin' blink. Those murderous fuckers, killers and robbers took power and holding our people hustage for 20+ years making sure that no one can do anything about it. So, it'll take a herculean effort to take them down, but we will, with the help of Ukraine and other countries.

Ukraine will take back what's been taken from it and Russia along with Belarus will be free from fascist dictatorship and authoritarianism.

I assume that you’re not part of the generation that voted Putin into power democratically in the first place? How do you feel about them? Are they happy with what he’s doing? It’s what they voted for. Are you even aware that he was put into power that way?

I’m fascinated to know how much Russians actually know about the people in power over them, and how they got there.
 

Darius87

Member
I'm from Russia and there's millions of people here (I'm one of them) who don't support Putin's fascist and terrorist regime in any way as well as totally unjustified colonial war against Ukraine and its people. But there's only so much (or more like almost nothing) you can do now and while almost 2 million armed to the teeth fascist pigs (Police, National Guards, FSB, FSO etc.) is against you, along with oppressive illegal laws etc., which are getting signed faster than you can effin' blink. Those murdarouser fuckers, killers and robbers took power and holding our people in hustage for 20+ years making sure that no one can do anything about it. So, it'll take a herculean effort to take them down, but we will, with the help of Ukraine and other countries.

Ukraine will take back what's been taken from it and Russia will be Belarus will be free from fascist dictatorship and authoritarianism.
it's time to grow some balls and start rising against these pigs of course it would be hard it would be many victims that's the price, ukraine did it russians also could do it.
If russians start organizing themselfs start protesting in masses like 100 000 in one spot it would absolutely overwhelm any police or FSB... arm yourself with molotovs use drones, masks, there's so many ways you could fight against it you just need start spreading word, organize leaders... start protesting.
 
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I wish the best for you and those like you in Russia. I honestly, with all my heart, do. Your country contributed so much to literature and the performing arts and so many other things. It's just that authoritarian leadership under Putin and those before him have wrecked things

Russia produced all those things you love while it was under authoritarian leadership, from the imperial tsardom to the necessary authoritarianism of the Bolsheviks...the arts are a direct consequence of Russia never having a time where authoritarians weren't strangling at least a subset, if not the majority, of the population
 

BadBurger

Many “Whelps”! Handle It!
Russia produced all those things you love while it was under authoritarian leadership, from the imperial tsardom to the necessary authoritarianism of the Bolsheviks...the arts are a direct consequence of Russia never having a time where authoritarians weren't strangling at least a subset, if not the majority, of the population

Wouldn't it be a celebration of how some Russian citizens produced wonderous art even while oppressed?

You're searching for an argument that doesn't exist.
 
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Agent_4Seven

Tears of Nintendo
Sorry to bust your bubble, but last 400 years of history prove Russia never stopped being an aggressive and dominant state. Only the Tsar / Communists / Putin changes. You had less than 10 years with Yeltsin that tried to have a partner relations with other countries, he was seen as a weakling by Russian population.
Those times are long gone, it's 21st century for russian people who can actually think and against the war, know laws and only accepting 93's constitution.

Yeltsin along with Gaidar and many others made sure that we'll never go back to authoritarianism, colonialism and imperialism ever again. But it's far more complicated than you think, so if you really wanna know what happened and If you know someone who knows russian and can help you translate, I suggest you to watch Vladimir Milov's channel and his videos dedicated to the fall of USSR, 90s and now his new series about the 2000s and how Putin took power and destroyed everything Yeltsin and others have built in the 90's. Yeltsin was the best pesident we ever had and he was legally elected and voted for, unlike Putin after 1999 (and later) and Medvedev.

I assume that you’re not part of the generation that voted Putin into power democratically in the first place? How do you feel about them? Are they happy with what he’s doing? It’s what they voted for. Are you even aware that he was put into power that way?

I’m fascinated to know how much Russians actually know about the people in power over them, and how they got there.
Believe me, I know more than you think. I haven't voted for this son of a bitch ever. But nevertheless it's my and our people's fault as well. I was like 15 years old in 1999, I didn't care or didn't understand what politics is etc. But if you'd knew what I know, you'd know that it was already too late in 2003 - that's how fast he took over everthing in our country. Also, don't believe about 80-90 aproval ratings, it's all and pure BS just like everything else they're telling right now for you to feel hopeless and think that the whole nation is supporting this war, Putin and his regime. There's at best 10-15% of people like that, no more, keep that in mind please and also, watch Vladimir Milov channel too, there's almost everything important there to have a full picture of wtf happened.

it's time to grow some balls and start rising against these pigs of course it would be hard it would be many victims that's the price, ukraine did it russians also could do it.
It's not the right time yet, we can't do anything against 2 million armed to the teeth fascist pigs, many will die and nothing, I repeat - NOTHING will change. We'll act when we actually can do something to destroy this fascist regime from within without being killed, get into jail etc. Many russians who has the brain and heart also doing everything they can to not go to war and kill people so that those immoral fuckers, killers and robbers could save their fuckin' castles, yachts, houses in other countries and billions upon billions of rubles they took from us and our country etc. We won't be going to Ukraine, we won't be killing Ukrainian people and we won't go and destroy their cities etc. etc. We can't do anything about stupid people who's doing exact opposite, but we must do whatever we can and not go to war and become war criminals, this is the most important thing we can do right now and there's nothing they can do to stop us. I rather effin' die than to kill anyone from Ukraine or rather go to jail if I had to. I've made my mind long time ago and none of these effin' fuckers can do anything about it, period, they'll die trying and I'll take with me everyone I can.

If russians start organizing themselfs start protesting in masses like 100 000 in one spot it would absolutely overwhelm any police or FSB... arm yourself with molotovs use drones, masks, there's so many ways you could fight against it you just need start spreading word, organize leaders... start protesting.
You clearly don't understand how it works and can't even begin to grasp the reality of the situation. It is nowhere near as simple as you think and if it was, this war would never even happened. I've posted links above, if you're willing to trully understand with what and whom the whole civilized world is dealing with right now... watch it please. Moreover, I hope that more people here will do the same and share Vladimir Milov's channel with as many people as possible to make them understand that russian people are not supporting this war, Putin and his fascist regime. Don't let their effin' propaganda cloud your minds as well and make you think there's nothing can be done, cuz what USA, Ukraine and other countries are doing right now IS WORKING, don't let anyone tell you otherwise cuz I'm telling you as a russian sitizen that IT IS WORKING. The main problem here is that you're not acting fast and agressive enough with sanctions targeting 6000 people Navalny's team found - the more people from their list will be under sanctions and the faster it'll happen, the faster it'll all be over with the help of russian people from within. As long as these people don't have an option to chose a side, Putin and his pigs will be killing Ukranian people. Iran must be thrown into bronze age too for helping Putin to prolong the war.

Putin (and his regime) as a political person is dead, no one fears him anymore, no one respects him anymore, not even political leaders once close to him. His not even a person, he's immoral fascist pig who's days are numbered. When he'll die, every civilized person in Russia will be celebrating like never before. Also, do always keep in mind and make no mistake, Yeltsin and his team did what he could to save our country and free our people, he was a good man with a lot of personal problems, he actually cared about people and also cuz of that turned into what you and we seen him in his late years of presidency. He was almost alone during personal strugles and it is his family including his douther and her husband, who helped Putin take over the power in the first place and made sure there was no other choice.

Yeltsin made a fatal mistake of firing Nemzov and Chubais cuz of the stupid thing they did in late 90s. If it wasn't for that fatal decision, he would've at least 2 more people outside of Putin to whom he could safely hand over the power with the help of russian people durring legal ellection. It was Yeltsin who avoided Kosovo and Yugoslavia type of conflict and made sure that the fall of USSR was peaceful, it was also Yeltsin who used power handed to him in early 90s to not let so called parlament to start the war against all ex USSR states that got freedom after the fall of USSR, he was against it so he didn't let it happen and did everything he could. When Yeltsin died, many presidents from other countries come to Russia to say goodbye to him cuz dispite all of his flaws (most of which are personal and at the same time not flaws at all), he was a good man who cared about russian people, didn't care about holding power indefinitely and sometimes was forced to make certain decisions just like president Clinton.

No one will come to Russia to say goodbye to Putin and I really hope that no one will come from Europe and other civilized countries no matter what, cuz what he's done not only to Ukraine but to Russia and russian people as well over the last 20+ years, must never be forgotten and forgiven, he must die alone and he must be alone after. He's a rotten to the core piece of shit and no one should care about what'll happen to him or to those who helped him and continue helping killing Ukrainians and destroying their country. If there's something to care for when it comes this him and others in his fascist regime, it is to make sure that absolutely everyone in the government involved in all this must be condemned for their crimes and we must stop at nothing to make it happen. They effin' don't know with whom they're dealing with and they'll pay for everything, sooner or later, one way or the other. But we all must work together towards this goal, do whatever possible depending on the situation and not let anything or anyone stand in our way, be it with propaganda, Putin's puppets in our countries and governments etc.

For Ukraine and its people and for the freedom of Russia and Belarus!🇺🇦🇷🇺🇧🇾✊
 
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FunkMiller

Member
Those times are long gone, it's 21st century for russian people who can actually think and against the war, know laws and only accepting 93's constitution.

Yeltsin along with Gaidar and many others made sure that we'll never go back to authoritarianism, colonialism and imperialism ever again. But it's far more complicated than you think, so if you really wanna know what happened and If you know someone who knows russian and can help you translate, I suggest you to watch Vladimir Milov's channel and his videos dedicated to the fall of USSR, 90s and now his new series about the 2000s and how Putin took power and destroyed everything Yeltsin and others have built in the 90's. Yeltsin was the best pesident we ever had and he was legally elected and voted for, unlike Putin after 1999 (and later) and Medvedev.


Believe me, I know more than you think. I haven't voted for this son of a bitch ever. But nevertheless it's my and our people's fault as well. I was like 15 years old in 1999, I didn't care or didn't understand what politics is etc. But if you'd knew what I know, you'd know that it was already too late in 2003 - that's how fast he took over everthing in our country. Also, don't believe about 80-90 aproval ratings, it's all and pure BS just like everything else they're telling right now for you to feel hopeless and think that the whole nation is supporting this war, Putin and his regime. There's at best 10-15% of people like that, no more, keep that in mind please and also, watch Vladimir Milov channel too, there's almost everything important there to have a full picture of wtf happened.


It's not the rignt time yet, we can't do anything against 2 million armed to the teeth fascist pigs, many will die and nothing, I repeat - NOTHING will change. We'll act when we actually can do something to destroy this fascist regime from within without being killed, get into jail etc. Many russians who has the brain and heart also doing everything they can to not go to war and kill people so that those immoral fuckers, killers and robbers could save their fuckin' castles, yachts, houses in other countries and billions upon billions of rubles they took from us and our country etc. We won't be going to Ukraine, we won't be killing Ukrainian people and we won't go and destroy their cities etc. etc. We can't do anything about stupid people who's doing exact opposite, but we must do whatever we can and not go to war and become war criminals, this is the most important thing we can do right now and there's nothing they can do to stop us. I rather effin' die than to kill anyone from Ukraine or rather go to jail if I had to. I've made my mind long time ago and none of these effin' fuckers can do anything about it, period, they'll die trying and I'll take with me everyone I can.


You clearly don't understand how it works and can't even begin to grasp the reality of the situation. It is nowhere near as simple as you think and if it was, this war would never even happened. I've posted links above, if you're willing to trully understand with what and whom the whole civilized world is dealing with right now... watch it please. Moreover, I hope that more people here will do the same and share Vladimir Milov's channel with as many people as possible to make them understand that russian people are not supporting this war, Putin and his fascist regime. Don't let their effin' propaganda cloud your minds as well and make you think there's nothing can be done, cuz what USA, Ukraine and other countries are doing right now IS WORKING, don't let anyone tell you otherwise cuz I'm telling you as a russian sitizen that IT IS WORKING. The main problem here is that you're not acting fast and agressive enough with sanctions targeting 6000 people Navalny's team found - the more people from their list will be under sanctions and the faster it'll happen, the faster it'll all be over with the help of russian people from within. As long as these people don't have an option to chose a side, Putin and his pigs will be killing Ukranian people. Iran must be thrown into bronze age too for helping Putin to prolong the war.

Putin (and his regime) as a political person is dead, no one fears him anymore, no one respects him anymore, not even political leaders once close to him. His not even a person, he's immoral fascist pig who's days are numbered. When he'll die, every civelized person in Russia will be celebrating like never before. Also, do always keep in mind and make no mistake, Yeltsin and his team did what he could to save our country and free our people, he was a good man with a lot of personal problems, he actually cared about people and also cuz of that turned into what you and we seen him in his late years of presidency. He was almost alone during personal strugles and it is his family including his douther and her husband, who helped Putin take over the power in the first place and made sure there was no other choice.

Yeltsin made a fatal mistake of firing Nemzov and Chubais cuz of the stupid thing they did in late 90s. If it wasn't for that fatal decision, he would've at least 2 more people outside of Putin to whom he could safely hand over the power with the help of russian people durring legal ellection. It was Yeltsin who avoided Kosovo and Yugoslavia type of conflict and made sure that the fall of USSR was peaceful, it was also Yeltsin who used power handed to him in early 90s to not let so called parlament to start the war against all ex USSR states that got freedom after the fall of USSR, he was against it so he didn't let it happen and did everything he could. When Yeltsin died, many presidents from other countries come to Russia to say goodbye to him cuz dispite all of his flaws (most of which are personal and at the same time not flaws at all), he was a good man who cared about russian people, didn't care about holding power indefinitely and sometimes was forced to make certain decisions just like president Clinton.

No one will come to Russia to say goodbye to Putin and I really hope that no one will come from Europe and other civilized contries no matter what, cuz what he's done not only to Ukraine but to Russia and russian people as well over the last 20+ years, must never be forgotten and forgiven, he must die alone and he must be alone after. He's a rotten to the core piece of shit and no one should care about what'll happen to him or to those who helped him and continue helping killing Ukrainians and destroying their country. If there's something to care for when it comes this him and others in his fascist regime, it is to make sure that absolutely everyone in the government involved in all this must be condemned for their crimes and we must stop at nothing to make it happen. They effin' don't know with whom they're dealing with and they'll pay for everything, sooner or later, one way or the other. But we all must work together towards this goal, do whatever possible depending on the situation and not let anything or anyone stand in our way, be it with propaganda, Putin's puppets in our countries and governments etc.

For Ukraine and its people and for the freedom Russia and Belarus!🇺🇦🇷🇺🇧🇾✊

Fascinating insight. Thank you.

I really do feel for your generation. You got fucked by a bunch of idiots in the last one, who liked the idea of an authoritarian strong man being in power... and it's destroyed your country.

That should be a lesson to the rest of the world.

My hope for you now is that this war can lead to the demolition of the current Russian state as swiftly as possible, so it can be replaced by something more democratic and good for you, as well as the rest of us.
 

akimbo009

Gold Member
Those times are long gone, it's 21st century for russian people who can actually think and against the war, know laws and only accepting 93's constitution.

Yeltsin along with Gaidar and many others made sure that we'll never go back to authoritarianism, colonialism and imperialism ever again. But it's far more complicated than you think, so if you really wanna know what happened and If you know someone who knows russian and can help you translate, I suggest you to watch Vladimir Milov's channel and his videos dedicated to the fall of USSR, 90s and now his new series about the 2000s and how Putin took power and destroyed everything Yeltsin and others have built in the 90's. Yeltsin was the best pesident we ever had and he was legally elected and voted for, unlike Putin after 1999 (and later) and Medvedev.


Believe me, I know more than you think. I haven't voted for this son of a bitch ever. But nevertheless it's my and our people's fault as well. I was like 15 years old in 1999, I didn't care or didn't understand what politics is etc. But if you'd knew what I know, you'd know that it was already too late in 2003 - that's how fast he took over everthing in our country. Also, don't believe about 80-90 aproval ratings, it's all and pure BS just like everything else they're telling right now for you to feel hopeless and think that the whole nation is supporting this war, Putin and his regime. There's at best 10-15% of people like that, no more, keep that in mind please and also, watch Vladimir Milov channel too, there's almost everything important there to have a full picture of wtf happened.


It's not the right time yet, we can't do anything against 2 million armed to the teeth fascist pigs, many will die and nothing, I repeat - NOTHING will change. We'll act when we actually can do something to destroy this fascist regime from within without being killed, get into jail etc. Many russians who has the brain and heart also doing everything they can to not go to war and kill people so that those immoral fuckers, killers and robbers could save their fuckin' castles, yachts, houses in other countries and billions upon billions of rubles they took from us and our country etc. We won't be going to Ukraine, we won't be killing Ukrainian people and we won't go and destroy their cities etc. etc. We can't do anything about stupid people who's doing exact opposite, but we must do whatever we can and not go to war and become war criminals, this is the most important thing we can do right now and there's nothing they can do to stop us. I rather effin' die than to kill anyone from Ukraine or rather go to jail if I had to. I've made my mind long time ago and none of these effin' fuckers can do anything about it, period, they'll die trying and I'll take with me everyone I can.


You clearly don't understand how it works and can't even begin to grasp the reality of the situation. It is nowhere near as simple as you think and if it was, this war would never even happened. I've posted links above, if you're willing to trully understand with what and whom the whole civilized world is dealing with right now... watch it please. Moreover, I hope that more people here will do the same and share Vladimir Milov's channel with as many people as possible to make them understand that russian people are not supporting this war, Putin and his fascist regime. Don't let their effin' propaganda cloud your minds as well and make you think there's nothing can be done, cuz what USA, Ukraine and other countries are doing right now IS WORKING, don't let anyone tell you otherwise cuz I'm telling you as a russian sitizen that IT IS WORKING. The main problem here is that you're not acting fast and agressive enough with sanctions targeting 6000 people Navalny's team found - the more people from their list will be under sanctions and the faster it'll happen, the faster it'll all be over with the help of russian people from within. As long as these people don't have an option to chose a side, Putin and his pigs will be killing Ukranian people. Iran must be thrown into bronze age too for helping Putin to prolong the war.

Putin (and his regime) as a political person is dead, no one fears him anymore, no one respects him anymore, not even political leaders once close to him. His not even a person, he's immoral fascist pig who's days are numbered. When he'll die, every civilized person in Russia will be celebrating like never before. Also, do always keep in mind and make no mistake, Yeltsin and his team did what he could to save our country and free our people, he was a good man with a lot of personal problems, he actually cared about people and also cuz of that turned into what you and we seen him in his late years of presidency. He was almost alone during personal strugles and it is his family including his douther and her husband, who helped Putin take over the power in the first place and made sure there was no other choice.

Yeltsin made a fatal mistake of firing Nemzov and Chubais cuz of the stupid thing they did in late 90s. If it wasn't for that fatal decision, he would've at least 2 more people outside of Putin to whom he could safely hand over the power with the help of russian people durring legal ellection. It was Yeltsin who avoided Kosovo and Yugoslavia type of conflict and made sure that the fall of USSR was peaceful, it was also Yeltsin who used power handed to him in early 90s to not let so called parlament to start the war against all ex USSR states that got freedom after the fall of USSR, he was against it so he didn't let it happen and did everything he could. When Yeltsin died, many presidents from other countries come to Russia to say goodbye to him cuz dispite all of his flaws (most of which are personal and at the same time not flaws at all), he was a good man who cared about russian people, didn't care about holding power indefinitely and sometimes was forced to make certain decisions just like president Clinton.

No one will come to Russia to say goodbye to Putin and I really hope that no one will come from Europe and other civilized countries no matter what, cuz what he's done not only to Ukraine but to Russia and russian people as well over the last 20+ years, must never be forgotten and forgiven, he must die alone and he must be alone after. He's a rotten to the core piece of shit and no one should care about what'll happen to him or to those who helped him and continue helping killing Ukrainians and destroying their country. If there's something to care for when it comes this him and others in his fascist regime, it is to make sure that absolutely everyone in the government involved in all this must be condemned for their crimes and we must stop at nothing to make it happen. They effin' don't know with whom they're dealing with and they'll pay for everything, sooner or later, one way or the other. But we all must work together towards this goal, do whatever possible depending on the situation and not let anything or anyone stand in our way, be it with propaganda, Putin's puppets in our countries and governments etc.

For Ukraine and its people and for the freedom of Russia and Belarus!🇺🇦🇷🇺🇧🇾✊

Not to take away from the real hard challenge of resistance but Iran has an equal, if not harder, scenario and are actively protesting, dying, and having their voice heard. You don't see that in Russia.
 

Agent_4Seven

Tears of Nintendo

Media: The Kremlin does not have enough money to pay the promised mobilized Russians

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Well, they do not need to pay them anyway since most of them will be missing or "deserted (dead)", or whatever shenanigans they will use not to pay them anyway.
First they've tried gather volunteers, then they've tried to pay huge sums of money before mobilization to all who volunteered to go to war, then they've started to gather prisoners, none of this shit worked (except prisoners - if you'd knew how bad it is to be or simply exist in russian prison, you'd know why they've decided to go) cuz people are against the war. People tried and still trying to burn a lot of military registration and enlistment offices to protest, this will never stop. They didn't have enough money to pay at the start of the war and they won't be paying anyone for anything now for sure, cuz they'll do whatever it takes to make it happen. Federal fund of national wealth at this rate will last a year at best, maybe a bit more, and if they'll decide to pay everyone (which is 79 billion rubles each month) were as federal fund of national wealth is somewhere around 3,5 trillion (not including money which are invested in various projects, so they can't just use them, they need to take them back first which won't be easy if at all possible) at best, which can and will eventually force them to start printing money and it'll then skyrocket inflation. They can't support the war for more than 2 years and if they will there won't money left for anything at all. Iran must be stopped to not let Puting to prolong the war and they must be blocked from trading good etc. with other countries as long as they're helping Putin.

This sick fuck even forcing Ukrainians from illegally occupied territories to kill their own people cuz "now they're living in Russia and on russian territiries", not only that but some russians have families in Ukraine and he's forcing them to got to war against them. It's fucked up beyond believe. This must be stopped.
 

Agent_4Seven

Tears of Nintendo
Not to take away from the real hard challenge of resistance but Iran has an equal, if not harder, scenario and are actively protesting, dying, and having their voice heard. You don't see that in Russia.
You wanna know why? Cuz Iran dealing with this shit (and even far worse stuff than we do) far longer than we do and in Iran it is far worse than here. But soon everything will change, this regime won't last a year at this rate and believe me, when the time comes, our voices will be hear loud and clear, but in the meantime we must do whatever it takes to not let tme kill us by going to war, cuz unlike them, we have a future and we must make Russia better country than it is now, it is our duty to it and to our people. Everyone involved in destroying Putin and his regime is doing whatever they can, the way the can and what is safe for them to do, I won't say anything more than that, but just know that we're not just sitting and waiting. But full-on potests won't do anything right now, it's absolutely pointless as long as we don't have advantage and help from within as well in some way or the other. People are disorganised, there's no one and nothing to follow yet without substantial help, organization etc. etc. etc. Stop thinking that's it's easy to do, Iran is not Russia and Russian is not Iran, sitiations are fundamentaly different.
 
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Facism

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The minorities repressed, re-educated and murdered in Russia for hundreds of years are magically going to be ok once putin is gone and the unicorn nuRussia emerges from it aight
 

FunkMiller

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But full-on potests won't do anything right now, it's absolutely pointless as long as we don't have advantage and help from within as well in some way or the other. People are disorganised, there's no one and nothing to follow yet without substantial help, organization etc. etc. etc.

I have to disagree somewhat on this, because protests would do something (even small scale ones, as long as they get online) It would get a lot more of you killed or carried off by the police. Now, from your perspective that’s an understandable no-go, but to be totally blunt about it, the rest of us want to see more of you protest whatever the outcome, because it would highlight how fascist Russia has truly become, and might persuade people to do something about it- or at least show the rest of the world how bad things actually are.
 
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I wanted to create a dedicated thread for this, but then it would create another thread on it's own just like this one, so I would rather talk about it here. I can't thank you enough, GAF, for your marvelous support, financial support, for your spirit, and mood that you helped me to create, yesterday I finally moved out of Ukraine, and right now I am on my way to my relatives where I will stay for some time before moving to one of the EU countries, it's nice to finally fall asleep and not worrying that your house might be next, because after the event in early May in my town, where a single rocket, or a piece of rocket landed right on someone else's house and almost half of all the street at least for some time looked like a scene from Fallout, luckily no one died then, but that's won't always be the case, I wish the circumstances of me leaving were different, because it didn't feel good to leave, this hatred of having no choice will always stay with me, but at the very least there is a place and people that are so kind, thoughtful and helpful. Thank you, GAF.
 
Orban knows that the EU is the boss, no matter how much he likes to talk up how independent, rebellious and cool he is. He's just a baby screaming at the dinner table and but always eating the food his parents give him.
 
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M1chl

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Long time coming. Czech Republic decided to label Russia as a Terrorist state.
 
Looking at latest footage there is parts of Ukraine without power due to Russias recent strikes. And tons of footage of Ukranian tanks and equipment getting destroyed. The casualties must be massive.
 
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Tams

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That's a shame. I heard Hungarians like him.
Veering into politics here, but yes, quite a lot do, but it's not even half the population.

However, if you tell people what they want to hear, control the media, are in power, and intimidate any opposition, then near half the electorate supporting you is enough to maintain you in power.
 

Tams

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Looking at latest footage there is parts of Ukraine without power due to Russias recent strikes. And tons of footage of Ukranian tanks and equipment getting destroyed. The casualties must be massive.

Ukraine being without power is not news. It's been all over the media.

As for the latter: link it or else why should anyone believe you? I've not seen any comparative uptick in damage to any side. Further, if Ukraine are sustaining heavier casualties, then we'd have seen more movement of the front lines despite the weather. For a couple of weeks now the lines have remained pretty static, with some Ukrainian gains and Russia making tiny ones towards Bakhmut (but still not managing to enter it).
 
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And this is why I wonder why South Korea and Israel are adamantly refusing to help Ukraine or sell weapons to them. Russia is directly funding or helping their arch-foes.
Ukraine always votes against Israel in the UN.
I have no idea why. Maybe Obama/Biden wants it that way, or Ukrainians are idiots. Dunno.
 
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