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Russia begins Invasion of Ukraine
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The ‘source’ is Kremlin installed DNR officials. Did you even read the link?
LimanimaPT
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"Reuters is reporting two thermal power plants were damaged by Ukrainian shelling in Russian-controlled parts of the country’s Donetsk region, according to Moscow-installed officials on Sunday."
Ok...nuf said.
M1chl
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And 1956 (Hungary)
1968 (Czechoslovakia + occupation for 20 years)
1979 Afghanistan
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etc.
These mofos needs to finally learn their lesson.
Sure, but why would Reuters and Guardian lie? They just report the news and are highly trustworthy. And besides that .. if it’s true more Russians dead , if not .. o well 1950s blame game .
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Roll Fizzlebeef
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... its not that reuters is lying, they didnt send a journalist to these plans and survey the damage and determine who shot.. they are only repeating what they are told. The point is the ultimate source is not reuters but DNR officials so you cant just take it for its word.
Ah okay sure, you have a point.
IndoAssassin
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DaleinCalgary
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russia doest have the ability to target that precise of target anymore
Patrick S.
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So another round of mobilisation is indeed happening? Man, Russia is going to be only old people and women soon...
Wildebeest
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They just see public protests as a convenient place to round up people to mobilize, so it isn't recommended.
Mister Apoc
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NoLootBoxDev
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demented waffle
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Funny thing is that we're sending them our "hand-me-downs".
I'd hate to see our current weapons being sent. Although, we're gonna have to chill sending artillery shells. We don't have that many left. There's supposedly ramped-up production on those...so...
I'd hate to see our current weapons being sent. Although, we're gonna have to chill sending artillery shells. We don't have that many left. There's supposedly ramped-up production on those...so...
FatallyYours
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Why is that funny?
Why would you hate that? Seems a strange thing to say...free weapons testing for EU/US against "superpower" RUS weaponry, with no human cost to them, destroying Russias military might, supporting an ally...just a few good reasons
I'd love to see your sources for this, as I think it's pure bollocks. Not many left lol
I'd imagine the numbers of artillery shells number in the hundreds of thousands, just in the immediate euro zone near Ukraine and Russia. I'm assuming Poland on its own has a load, just incase Russia decides to do something stupid
demented waffle
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The war is going past our production.
I'm assuming English isn't your first language on the rest. American euphemisms.
I'm assuming English isn't your first language on the rest. American euphemisms.
FatallyYours
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My country gave you your main language
And why is it just US production youre going off? Last time I checked there was more than one country producing military equipment and sending it to Ukraine
demented waffle
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Then maybe the rest of NATO should pick up our upcoming slack.
demented waffle
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Not why sure you choose to be offended. You do you, boo.
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FatallyYours
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They are. It's in your own source
Small euro countries are doing their best, larger euro countries will be doing more, and potentially those factories will be retooled and start making even more. Simple. No over reaction of having no shells to give
I'm not offended, I just don't understand how your original post was just so poorly put together, but yes, I'll continue to do me, you do you too if you like!
demented waffle
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Good, maybe they'll stick with it.
You obviously don't understand euphemisms. I didn't mean that shit literally.
Figurative and literal are a blurred line in American(has to be western as well) speech.
I'll leave the last word to you, tho.
Sorry about shitting this thread up.
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Thaedolus
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Mother of god
LimanimaPT
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I always get confused where do that shells will fall... How is that calculated?
winjer
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We have been doing ballistics calculations for artillery for centuries.
Napoleon was famous for carrying Newton's Principia to his battles, and for his advanced use of artillery.
Nobody_Important
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A shitload of calculations. Weight of the projectile, rotation of the earth, wind speed, elevation, Etc etc. We have computers now that do most of the work.
Poor bastards of the past had to do it by hand and yet still hit their targets.
Bitmap Frogs
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That demo video is impressive, the unit is already on the move when the first impact lands.
In other news, the situation at Soledar is deteriorating quickly. Ukraine is sending additional reinforcements and reportedly the situation is very difficult.
M1chl
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I think the worst part of losing Soledar might be giving Russia the salt mines. The wagner boss already said they planned on using them to store stuff like ammunition and armored vehicles. Having these massive stockpiles so close to Bakhmut and Ukraine not being able to do anything about them sounds potentially devastating.
Tams
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It sounds like it might not be worth holding for much longer. The UK MOD are saying that Russian and Wagner forces have likely taken most of it. If Ukraine can make it (even more of) a Russian death pit though, perhaps that would make the town untenable for any staging of attacks against Bakhmut.
Lukaku's First Touch
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Now they should be able to have that gun point at the target while driving, so they only have to stop to fire the gun.
Azurro
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There's a Perun video about this. Yes, Americans don't produce all that many artillery shells, but that's because your military doctrine calls for devastating air superiority, it doesn't rely on artillery. Other countries will pick up the slack, that's not a problem.
Bitmap Frogs
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This suspiciously well fed bakhmut dog has been doing the rounds on twitter today.
Bitmap Frogs
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Not all is gloom and doom - ukrainians got ahead of amazon and are now delivering food by drone:
Halo is Back
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It seems like a decent way to practice with the drone for dropping bombs later.
Bitmap Frogs
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Ah, as for Soledar... fog of war is a thing.
Wagner officially claims it's taken and surrounded, with ukrainian units holding a chunk of the town without a way out. Other sources claim it's not surrounded but Wagner probably has line of fire on the last road out.
In any case, it's a matter of waiting it out.
Wagner officially claims it's taken and surrounded, with ukrainian units holding a chunk of the town without a way out. Other sources claim it's not surrounded but Wagner probably has line of fire on the last road out.
In any case, it's a matter of waiting it out.
Result of the west being too slow with more advanced hardware .. but they probably will give Russia most of the annexed ground … politics . NATO has expanded, so has Russia .
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Tams
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Lol, no.
We will see .. but be aware I have a keen eye for this . I rather see Ukraine win and get all annexed regions back.
And let’s be clear . Ukraine is asking at least from around august (but probably even earlier) for patriots and tanks .. and more advanced stuff so is the west slow? We have all that stuff doing nothing …
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RJMacready73
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Ukraine are getting supplied with everything they need within reason, the stuff that the Western media is so fixated on is no doubt being set up in the background, troops are being trained, supply chains are being set up, etc... you cant just dump a whole shit load of advanced tanks and other heavy weaponry onto a battlefield without proper logistics, not to mention Ukraine are being supplied with the stuff they need for the battles they are currently fighting, once they go on the proper offense you can bet they will be supplied with the gear required for this, i honeslty dont think the Armed forces of each Nato country gives 2 shits what Putler thinks or about escalation, thats all coming from rubber spined politicans in the pocket of russia, same with the media
GymWolf
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Missiles and drones don't work against those tanks?
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