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[Tams]

Ukraine ammunition depot reportedly hit in wave of Russian missile attacks

Ukraine intercepts 15 out of 18 missiles as Moscow launches strikes apparently designed to hamper Kyiv’s plans for a counteroffensive

www.theguardian.com

Unfortunately it looked like they hit an ammo store.

And of course the civilian casualties.

Hopefully the damage is minimal.

 

[Nikodemos]

Might've been just a probing run, to see whether the info about degraded Ukrainian AA was genuine.

Oh, and they hit the old Pavlograd Chemical Plant, where they used to manufacture boost stages for Soviet ICBMs. There were still dozens of solid rocket boosters and tons of liquid fuel around. So it made for one spectacular fireworks show.

 

[Darius87]

Its either old soviet ballistic missiles (ss-24) with 1800 tons of rocket fuel or rail wagons with ammunition traveling closer to front, but explosion was massive.

 

[RJMacready73]

God I hope this counteroffensive crushes those evil bastard

 

[Liljagare]

 

[LordOfChaos]

They sent 18 bombers to launch 18 missiles, one missile per bomber?

It appears last night wasn't the attack it looked like it was going to be. Dunno. Russia trying to scare some Ukranian positions into moving and becoming visible, trying to use up their AD missiles more, or just moving the bombers around airbases to make them safer or to where they have more missiles? Doubt we know right now.

 

[Forsete]

 

[Darius87]

looks almost like a nuke

 

[NoLootBoxDev]

This was unexpected from China, I guess things are not good for them now.

 

[Liljagare]

Hope it goes well for them!

 

[winjer]

This was unexpected from China, I guess things are not good for them now.

What was it about. It just says this tweet is unavailable.

 

[NoLootBoxDev]

What was it about. It just says this tweet is unavailable.

Here is the title

China just voted for a UN resolution that calls russia the aggressor in Ukraine.​

 

[ThisIsMyDog]

Communists in China may have been a bit annoyed by this:

Russia, China convinced that nuclear war must never be unleashed — joint statement

The countries called on all signatory countries to make efforts to "reduce the risk of unleashing a nuclear war and any armed conflict between states possessing nuclear weapons"

tass.com

"Russia, China convinced that nuclear war must never be unleashed - joint statement"

"All nuclear powers must not deploy nuclear weapons outside their national territories and must withdraw all their nuclear weapons placed abroad," the statement emphasizes.

Then days later:

"Russia has reached an agreement with Belarus to station tactical nuclear weapons on its smaller neighbor's territory, so bringing some of its arsenal closer to the rest of Europe, Vladimir Putin has said."

Russia to station tactical nuclear weapons in Belarus

Deal with allied neighbour will not violate non-proliferation agreements, Putin says

www.theguardian.com

Putin made China look weak.

 

[Artoris]

I could well be wrong, but I think this war has been a mayor ball-ache for China

 

[Forsete]

 

[ThisIsMyDog]

I think it's the overall losses on the entire front and not just at Bakhmut, although it's clear that a significant portion there.

 

[Susurrus]

http://[URL]https://www.theguardian...rtedly-hit-in-wave-of-russian-missile-attacks

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Unfortunately it looked like they hit an ammo store.

And of course the civilian casualties.

Hopefully the damage is minimal.

Wait, they actually hit a military target?

 

[darth.shrimp]

Communists in China may have been a bit annoyed by this:

Russia, China convinced that nuclear war must never be unleashed — joint statement

The countries called on all signatory countries to make efforts to "reduce the risk of unleashing a nuclear war and any armed conflict between states possessing nuclear weapons"

tass.com

"Russia, China convinced that nuclear war must never be unleashed - joint statement"

"All nuclear powers must not deploy nuclear weapons outside their national territories and must withdraw all their nuclear weapons placed abroad," the statement emphasizes.

Then days later:

"Russia has reached an agreement with Belarus to station tactical nuclear weapons on its smaller neighbor's territory, so bringing some of its arsenal closer to the rest of Europe, Vladimir Putin has said."

Russia to station tactical nuclear weapons in Belarus

Deal with allied neighbour will not violate non-proliferation agreements, Putin says

www.theguardian.com

Putin made China look weak.

Unless Putin considers Belarus part of Russia's "national territory", that is...

 

[MisterFalcon]

Wait, they actually hit a military target?

Vaguely military, it was a stockpile of Soviet era ballistic missile fuel that expired decades ago and was too dangerous to transport or do anything with it.

If Putin demanded a big bada boom as payback for the Sebastopol oil depot strike he got one. Mission accomplished I guess.

 

[winjer]

Unless Putin considers Belarus part of Russia's "national territory", that is...

Putin considers that all of eastern Europe belongs to him.
It's like the modern interpretation of lebensraum, except it's Russian. And Russia has been doing it for many centuries.

 

[Liljagare]

Jesus...

 

[Gp1]

 

[Darius87]

battle for cyclops part 3:

 

[Nobody_Important]

Imagine being told to go to war with something that your great grandfather could have held.

 

[kuncol02]

Imagine being told to go to war with something that your great grandfather could have held.

Like M1911 and M2? Both designed before that Thompson and both still in service. 1911 in US only by Police, but other countries still use them.

 

[Nobody_Important]

Like M1911 and M2? Both designed before that Thompson and both still in service. 1911 in US only by Police, but other countries still use them.

Because both of them still serve tactical purpose in the way they are used.


A Thompson has no place on a modern battlefield.

 

[Lasha]

Do you happen to have the original video? Was it Russia showing off the Thompson or internet saying its a Thompson from a screenshot?

 

[Liljagare]

 

[ThisIsMyDog]

From three days to Kiyv to drone attacking Kremlin LMAO Russia is one big comedy club.

 

[Forsete]

From three days to Kiyv to drone attacking Kremlin LMAO Russia is one big comedy club.

OMFG.

 

[FUBARx89]

The amazing thing about the Kremlin drone video is they're all up in arms about targeting Putin.

Wasn't that when they wanted to kill Zelenskyy in thr first days of the invasion and failed miserably.

 

[Aggelos]

 

[MrA]

The amazing thing about the Kremlin drone video is they're all up in arms about targeting Putin.

Wasn't that when they wanted to kill Zelenskyy in thr first days of the invasion and failed miserably.

A bunch of spetznaz were sent and died trying

 

[Kenpachii]

Honestly just bombard moscow with drones and rockets see how they like it.

 

[sinnergy]

Russia what a piece of shit country

 

[NoLootBoxDev]

I agree with this point. I bet they are shitting themselves to justify any shit that may come soon

 

[NoLootBoxDev]

It could be the operator of the drone (of course, my personal opinion)

 

[NoLootBoxDev]

Xi Accused Of Betraying Putin Over Phone Call To Zelensky On Russian State TV​

kastown.com/xi-acc...

 

[NoLootBoxDev]

Russian troops and Wagner mercenaries killed each other in a shootout after blaming each other for their war failures, Ukrainian government says​

news.yahoo.com/russia...

 

[winjer]

Xi Accused Of Betraying Putin Over Phone Call To Zelensky On Russian State TV​

kastown.com/xi-acc...

Russian troops and Wagner mercenaries killed each other in a shootout after blaming each other for their war failures, Ukrainian government says​

news.yahoo.com/russia...

They are all turning on each other, and it's beautiful.

 

[winjer]

NATO to open Japan office to enable Indo-Pacific consultation - report

TOKYO (Reuters) -NATO is planning to open a liaison office in Japan, its first in Asia, to facilitate consultations in the region, the Nikkei Asia reported on Wednesday, citing Japanese and NATO officials. The liaison office will enable discussions with NATO's security partners, such as South...

news.yahoo.com

Putin was so worried about NATO expansion, but managed to be it's biggest salesman around the world.

 

[Nikodemos]

They should make a golden plaque, with a bas-relief of his face on it, along with "NATO SALESMAN OF THE YEAR" in big, bold letters overhead.

Hopefully that would cause the apoplectic attack we've all been waiting for.

 

[Nobody_Important]

The "drone attack" is obviously just a false flag. The "drone" clearly had nowhere near the payload to cause any real damage, but had just enough to make a noticeable explosion. Also Putin doesn't live at the Kremlin. He doesn't sleep there. A "drone attack" on the Kremlin in the middle of the night is not an assassination attempt on him. Plus numerous random people JUST SO HAPPENED to be filming the roof of the Kremlin at the same time? It's insulting how stupid they think everyone else is.


It will just be used to drum up more public support and possibly escalate their efforts in Ukraine. If they even CAN escalate anymore.

 

[Tams]

The "drone attack" is obviously just a false flag. The "drone" clearly had nowhere near the payload to cause any real damage, but had just enough to make a noticeable explosion. Also Putin doesn't live at the Kremlin. He doesn't sleep there. A "drone attack" on the Kremlin in the middle of the night is not an assassination attempt on him. Plus numerous random people JUST SO HAPPENED to be filming the roof of the Kremlin at the same time? It's insulting how stupid they think everyone else is.


It will just be used to drum up more public support and possibly escalate their efforts in Ukraine. If they even CAN escalate anymore.

• Russia carried this out as a false flag
• Russian air defence is so shit it can't stop a very basic drone
• Russian partisans launched - Russian air defence still shit

Kremlin drone: Zelensky denies Ukraine attacked Putin or Moscow

"We don't attack Putin or Moscow. We fight on our territory," the Ukrainian leader says.

www.bbc.co.uk

Yeah, it's all for internal use. I suspect some of them do think we're dumb enough to think it were Ukraine.

 

[Cyberpunkd]

Always surprises me how over time we got away from people like Machiavelli and Clausewitz that seen war as a logical extension of politics, to be started and finished as the goals are achieved.

Now Russia is bleeding, people are suffering because a few insufferable pricks are for some fucking reason hyped on Ukraine - a third world country that was neither in NATO, nor in the EU and was not posing a threat to anyone, let alone Russia. Human stupidity truly has no bounds.

 

[Nobody_Important]

Always surprises me how over time we got away from people like Machiavelli and Clausewitz that seen war as a logical extension of politics, to be started and finished as the goals are achieved.

Now Russia is bleeding, people are suffering because a few insufferable pricks are for some fucking reason hyped on Ukraine - a third world country that was neither in NATO, nor in the EU and was not posing a threat to anyone, let alone Russia. Human stupidity truly has no bounds.

It was ego. Putin thought he could march into Ukraine and gain more territory and maybe even shock them into a total takeover. An easy display of daring and power to remind the world that Russia is to be treated with respect and as an equal to the US and China. Turns out their army is made up of poorly armed kids with no training and their military equipment is either woefully outdated or is being held together with duct tape.


But now they can't just leave. They have invested too much in lives and equipment to just call it quits. Which is why they do these false flags. They need them to keep the propaganda machine turning so their populace doesn't take to the streets.

 

[Cyberpunkd]

But now they can't just leave. They have invested too much in lives and equipment to just call it quits. Which is why they do these false flags. They need them to keep the propaganda machine turning so their populace doesn't take to the streets.

https://thedecisionlab.com/biases/commitment-bias#

 

[Nobody_Important]

https://thedecisionlab.com/biases/commitment-bias#

Exactly. They have fucked themselves into a hole and now the people of Russia and Ukraine suffer for it.


And it will likely stay that way until Putin finally croaks or somebody figures out a way for them to leave.

 

[pramod]

Why is this thread about geo(politics) allowed to exist?

 

[Batiman]

Why is this thread about geo(politics) allowed to exist?

There was an exception for this considering the scale of this situation