Russia begins Invasion of Ukraine

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Reports of another plane and helicopter being downed, making 2 planes and 2 helicopters in the last day. What's unclear if this is due to friendly fire or Ukrainian missiles.
 
nemiroff said:
Yeah, that's why I wrote "small".. But an additional front even against a small army would create a distraction for Ukraine's strategy elsewhere. ..Of course Ukraine already has a defense force there just in case, but still would be a waste of lives on both sides. I wouldn't like to see a single Ukrainian soldier dead in a fight against Belarus, thus like I wrote; I would like Lukashenko to stay alive - For now.
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Yes, while a pain for Ukraine and their significant of dated number of tanks are artillery (if Russia hasn't nabbed a load already, lol), they only have around 16,500 personnel in their army.

Their paramilitary are much bigger, but given the protests there at the last 'election', few would be sent to fight.
 
Forsete said:
Russian morale right now.



Not having fun fighting for Putins luxury yachts and dachas?
Wise choice.
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Let's not forget. These are now 90% just normal people drafted from ethnic regions.
Real soldiers who wanted to be in the army are few and far between

Forsete said:
Something just got blown up in Luhansk. 100 km from the front.

Many videos in the thread, lots of damage to that building.





Sounds like ammunition detonating in the background.
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What beautiful day at that.... war is so stupid. Waste of lives, resources, fuel and global warming acceleration.
And yet there is nothing anyone can do. Putin can just do whatever he wants without repercussion
 


The Simpsons GIF by MOODMAN
 
Russia hit the home town of Ukraine's Eurovision act with missiles right before they went on stage.

Thats some amazing school playground level of pettiness 🤣
 
After more than 9 months trying to take Bahkmut and suffering staggering losses in the process, when they are about to finish the job they start bickering themselves about who gets the glory, lines of communication break due to the infighting and Ukraine swoops in and starts to retake ground.

This is beautiful.
 


Not saying this is true, but he has been complaining about Ruzzia for a while now. So I think it is highly likely its real and at the same time:

Liam Neeson Good Luck GIF
 
Bitmap Frogs said:
After more than 9 months trying to take Bahkmut and suffering staggering losses in the process, when they are about to finish the job they start bickering themselves about who gets the glory, lines of communication break due to the infighting and Ukraine swoops in and starts to retake ground.

This is beautiful.
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This is Russia 🤡
 
Lasha said:
Are fighter cockpits armored? I always thought that manufactures never bothered given the caliber of stuff hitting an aircraft.
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From what i read, the only one that we can call "armored cockpit" is the A-10 and that's because of the "titanium bathtub". The front glass is resistant to small arms fire, but the glass canopy isn't.
 
acm2000 said:
more like laminated rather than "armoured"
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Gp1 said:
From what i read, the only one that we can call "armored cockpit" is the A-10 and that's because of the "titanium bathtub". The front glass is resistant to small arms fire, but the glass canopy isn't.
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That's what I thought. The weight of an armorer canopy would be pointless for an aircraft dealing with bvr engagements and cannon fire.
 


Russian milblogger talks about the Laos air force blunders losing a bunch of planes in one day as it's a crime to criticize Russian armed forces. Good thing for him sarcasm is not a crime yet but that can't be far off.
 
Lot's of Pro-Russian shit on Twitter, rn. Something about Kiev. and the Patriot SAM System.
I want to get confirmation on the situation but, I kept reading shit from dumbasses who just want to cede the war to Russia.
 
Dirk Benedict said:
Lot's of Pro-Russian shit on Twitter, rn. Something about Kiev. and the Patriot SAM System.
I want to get confirmation on the situation but, I kept reading shit from dumbasses who just want to cede the war to Russia.
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Russia are claiming to have taken out a Patriot system.

It's possible, but according to them:
  • all the missiles hit their targets last night (despite video evidence of mid-air interceptions, and a zoo getting hit by debris)
  • they've taken out large numbers of HIMARS/M270s (more than have been sent)
  • etc., etc., of neverending bullshit.
 
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Tams said:
Russia are claiming to have taken out a Patriot system.

It's possible, but according to them:
  • all the missiles hit their targets last night (despite video evidence of mid-air interceptions, and a zoo getting hit by debris)
  • they've taken out large numbers of HIMARS/M270s (more than have been sent)
  • etc., etc., of neverending bullshit.
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They played the Advance Wars remake and figured out what would sound good to say
 
With the UK sending Storm Shadow missiles and now kamikaze drones, France hinting at sending long range missiles, and constant talk about F16's…

Does the UK not have mothballed GR4s? France appear to have Mirage 2000s in storage that are being/have been discussed. Surely ground attack aircraft like the Tornados would be perfect for taking out Russian armour and artillery? Germany and Italy still have them in active service.. so training aside, wouldn't they be a better solution than F16s?
 
Apocryphon said:
With the UK sending Storm Shadow missiles and now kamikaze drones, France hinting at sending long range missiles, and constant talk about F16's…

Does the UK not have mothballed GR4s? France appear to have Mirage 2000s in storage that are being/have been discussed. Surely ground attack aircraft like the Tornados would be perfect for taking out Russian armour and artillery? Germany and Italy still have them in active service.. so training aside, wouldn't they be a better solution than F16s?
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The Tornado GR4s were worn to the bone and had been used in active combat intensively. The UK, with all her capabilities, was pushing it keeping them in service, especially after retiring the Harriers. Maintenance crews were pulling their hair out. The availability rate of them ended up quite poor towards the end. If I remember correctly, only 2 out of 5 tended to be available at RAF Akrotiri.

Germany still have some. But a) they need them and b) they are showing their age as well and have mechanical problems.

Airframes have a lifespan. For fighter jets, that's quite short, especially if they are used in active combat.
 
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Dirk Benedict said:
Lot's of Pro-Russian shit on Twitter, rn. Something about Kiev. and the Patriot SAM System.
I want to get confirmation on the situation but, I kept reading shit from dumbasses who just want to cede the war to Russia.
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Some say it was a NASAM battery others are saying it was a Patriot battery. Even if it did hit something, the amount of data collected would give tech nerds work for months.
 
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