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Russia begins Invasion of Ukraine

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Liljagare

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ThatStupidLion

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So when does russia start running out of military vehicles? Or do they have like 5x more without importing from other countries?
 
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jason10mm

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So when does russia start running out of military vehicles? Or do they have like 5x more without importing from other countries?
Soviet Block countries mothballed TONS of shit back in the day, preparing for WW3. Lots have been sold off or probably lost to the effects of time but I bet they still have legions of warehouses full of ancient stuff they can degrease and get running(ish). Thus is why tracking the progressively advancing age of their front line gear like tanks gives us an idea of how desperate they may be. At some point they gotta commit their primo reserves or give up because conscripts and convicts with 50's Era stuff ain't gonna cut it.
 

RJMacready73

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So when does russia start running out of military vehicles? Or do they have like 5x more without importing from other countries?
They wont, Russia is a massive country with huge resources and loads of ways of getting past sanctions, what they cant build they'll import at many times the cost but its not like theres an ever depleting piggy bank that will eventually run out, this will just keep ticking over with the russian people getting ever poorer, those at the top will keep eating well, its the West that needs to step up its game to end this farce of a war, our leaders need to grow a set of balls and let the Russians see what an actual 21st century army looks like
 

Liljagare

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Tanks and APC's are starting to show missing numbers, tons of old crap being tossed at the front, hardly any modern stuff at all, more and more old crap from the 50's is being rolled out, more and more meatwaves fully on foot now. Their AA is definetively suffering, but airforce is still huge.

But, unfortunately, even those old T-54/55's are a match for troops without proper antitank equipment. God knows how many of those they have, atleast they aren't able to restore that many, up to 100 tanks a month is a estimate by intelligence services, and they are loosing more than that.

Artillery, unfortunately they will never run out, but most of their modern pieces are gone, But, 25000 50's era artillery still works unfortunately, and they can keep manufacturing barrels forever. Interestingly ammo also seems to be a issue for the RuZZkies, as they have started to use the north Korea ammo, which is crap and has a habit of killing the artillery firing it. The helicopters have suffered alot and it has shown on the battlefield.

On the drone side, they are able to build as many as they want despite sanctions. Here it seems Ukraine has the upper hand though, and they are starting to use them better, replacing artillery is some zones, which is good since ammo is always short for them.

But, this is a meatgrinder, and apparently the RuZZkies don't care about their own lives either, it is going to be another bloody and disgusting year.
Also worth noting,when the war began, the typical Russian fighter whose death was recorded in the BBC's count was 21 years old and a low-ranking professional soldier. In recent months, the typical Russian soldier killed in Ukraine is a 34-year-old convict recruited from prison


While Russia's fall counter-offensive made minor gains at Avdiyivka, where the situation remains perilous for Ukraine, it came at a cost of tens of Ks dead, 100s of tanks and APCs lost, and several units rendered combat ineffective. It should already be viewed as a failure.

How come no one writes about the Russian 2023 counteroffensive that completely failed? After sending tens of thousands of Russian boys to slaughter in Ukraine this year, what gains did Putin achieve? When answering, be specific.

The Russian narrative about Ukraine losing and Russian endless resources is false but accepted by too many hand-wringers in the West. Nine years of war, all the advantages, and Russia still only controls [18]% of Ukraine.
 
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Lunarorbit

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Tanks and APC's are starting to show missing numbers, tons of old crap being tossed at the front, hardly any modern stuff at all, more and more old crap from the 50's is being rolled out, more and more meatwaves fully on foot now. Their AA is definetively suffering, but airforce is still huge.

But, unfortunately, even those old T-54/55's are a match for troops without proper antitank equipment. God knows how many of those they have, atleast they aren't able to restore that many, up to 100 tanks a month is a estimate by intelligence services, and they are loosing more than that.

Artillery, unfortunately they will never run out, but most of their modern pieces are gone, But, 25000 50's era artillery still works unfortunately, and they can keep manufacturing barrels forever. Interestingly ammo also seems to be a issue for the RuZZkies, as they have started to use the north Korea ammo, which is crap and has a habit of killing the artillery firing it. The helicopters have suffered alot and it has shown on the battlefield.

On the drone side, they are able to build as many as they want despite sanctions. Here it seems Ukraine has the upper hand though, and they are starting to use them better, replacing artillery is some zones, which is good since ammo is always short for them.

But, this is a meatgrinder, and apparently the RuZZkies don't care about their own lives either, it is going to be another bloody and disgusting year.
Also worth noting,when the war began, the typical Russian fighter whose death was recorded in the BBC's count was 21 years old and a low-ranking professional soldier. In recent months, the typical Russian soldier killed in Ukraine is a 34-year-old convict recruited from prison








Excellent points. The amount of vehicles they lose daily is out of control. Like you said they've been using outdated tanks practically from the beginning of the war. This is definitely going to catch up to them at some point and it ain't easy to replace this equipment quickly. N3ver mind the thermals and other tech that Abrahams and other apc have that are being provided.

Tanks will fuck shit up. Especially Ukrainian ones.
 

RJMacready73

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Excellent points. The amount of vehicles they lose daily is out of control. Like you said they've been using outdated tanks practically from the beginning of the war. This is definitely going to catch up to them at some point and it ain't easy to replace this equipment quickly. N3ver mind the thermals and other tech that Abrahams and other apc have that are being provided.

Tanks will fuck shit up. Especially Ukrainian ones.
They haven't deployed any Abraham's nor do they have sufficient numbers to properly deploy them as for the Orc cunts, they can keep throwing antiquated death traps at the Ukrainians for years, really does seem like the Russians are just gonna try and wear Ukraine down hoping their orange monkey gets elected and forces a peace deal.

Hopefully the EU tells him to fuck right off and goes all in but without the help of the yanks it'll be tougher... Can't believe so many Americans are buying up the Russian propaganda like the fucking morons they are and actively working to undermine Ukraine, don't they realize this war could be won a lot quicker if they just got behind it 100% and besides its the fucking Russians, their age old enemy ffs they should be chomping at the bit to destroy them yet here we are with actual fucking policitians doing the bidding of Putin, I expect it from cunts like Orban but not the Americans
 

Liljagare

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American Marine veteran killed in Ukraine fought 12 Russians in last stand. At least 46 Americans have died in Ukraine since February 2022, including more than 30 U.S. military veterans. Ethan Hertweck is one of 11 Marine veterans killed in Ukraine.



The Ukrainian documentary "20 Days in Mariupol" has been shortlisted for the 96th Academy Awards, the U.S. Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences announced on Dec. 21.




The AFU repelled a fairly big Russian assault, reportedly in the Lyman-Kreminna direction. A mix of infantry and IFV's/APC's was held off with accurate usage of artillery and mortar fire, as well as cluster munition.




Germany Surpasses Initial Tank Commitment, Boosts Marder Deliveries to Ukraine.



Today (around 12.00 pm) the Armed Forces of Ukraine destroyed 3 Russian fighter-bombers Su-34 in the South part of Ukraine.

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Cyberpunkd

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Excellent points. The amount of vehicles they lose daily is out of control. Like you said they've been using outdated tanks practically from the beginning of the war. This is definitely going to catch up to them at some point and it ain't easy to replace this equipment quickly. N3ver mind the thermals and other tech that Abrahams and other apc have that are being provided.

Tanks will fuck shit up. Especially Ukrainian ones.
Russia doesn’t need to win this, a ceasefire will always include keeping the occupied territories in Russia, thus taking 19% of Ukraine, and also the most heavily industrialised regions.
The voices to end this war will only get louder.
 

Liljagare

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According to NASA analysts, about 6.4 million tons of wheat and almost 1.5 million tons of sunflower seeds were harvested this year in the territories of Ukraine temporarily occupied by Russian troops.



Carol of the bells by Angelina Usanova.

 

Liljagare

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Ukraine Awaits Delivery Of First F-16 Jets In Coming Days As Kyiv Seeks To Counter Russian Air Superiority.



Trade volume between Russia and India exceeded over $40 billion in the first three quarters of this year.



Wagner defector exposes Russia’s Donbas ruse, false-flag ops in bombshell interview.
Igor Salikov has just arrived to the Hague to testify against Putin. Here is a glimpse at what he may be saying...

https://euromaidanpress.com/2023/12...s-ruse-false-flag-ops-in-bombshell-interview/
 

Liljagare

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Looks like Russian Su-30 fighter aircraft, which launched a missile at Odesa, was shot down by Ukrainian Air Defence system «Patriot».




Ukrainian Christmas Eve during wartime: our warriors shot down not only about 30 "Shahed" drones and several missiles, but also two more Russian "Su" aircraft.




Russian soldiers surrendering “in groups” - Ukraine’s military spox.

 
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Liljagare

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Odesa endured a relentless 7-hour attack. 12 Shahed drones intercepted, with debris hitting residential buildings. One person killed, four injured, including a [6]-year-old child. Stand strong, Odesa ✊🏼

One person was killed after Russian forces sent dozens of attack drones over Ukraine in their latest overnight air strike, Ukrainian authorities said on Wednesday.
The Ukraine Air Force said that 32 of 46 Iranian-made drones launched by Russia had been shot down. Most of the rest struck near the front line, mainly in the southern Kherson region.
The governor of Ukraine's Odesa region said that a 35-year-old man was killed by debris from a downed drone in a residential area. The interior ministry said four others, including a six-year-old child, were wounded.
https://www.reuters.com/world/europ...rone-attack-ukrainian-authorities-2023-12-27/



Today Russians once again launched attack on Stepove, Avdiivka front. DeepState regarding the attack: “Today's attempt by the enemy to break through to Steppe ended in another fiasco. In the morning, Russians entered the village with the forces of at least 10 BMPs and several tanks. Now their bords are collecting the remains of their bastards for evacuation.




#Germany has approved a record €11.7 billion worth of arms deliveries in 2023, with about a third of that amount earmarked for #Ukraine.




🚨 465 chemical attacks have been used by Russia on Ukraine since the beginning of the war.

🚨 81 chemical attacks in December this year.

🚨 8 chemical attacks on the 19th of December alone.

 
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Ukraine might have to postpone payments to civil servants and pensions if the expected financial aid from the West is not received in early 2024, Yulia Sviridenko, Ukraine's First Deputy Prime Minister and Economy Minister, told Financial Times, emphasizing the critical need for prompt assistance to avoid potential economic setbacks.

The delay would impact the salaries of 500,000 civil servants, 1.4 million teachers, and pensions for 10 million pensioners.

According to Sviridenko, the lack of external support could return the Ukrainian economy to a “survival” regime, after it had begun recovering this year.

Ukraine requires external support amounting to $37 billion next year. This plea for financial assistance comes amid concerns that the lack of support may jeopardize the progress made in the country's economic recovery, Sviridenko said.


This has gotten so ridiculous.
 
Stick him on ignore, he's only ever posted shite here anyway

I did call it a stalemate about 18 months ago. How's that 37th counteroffensive going?

American's don't have to pay for some war between two ex-soviet countries forever. Despite all the constant propaganda being regurgitated, the west's future doesn't actually hinge on Ukraine.
 

Wildebeest

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I did call it a stalemate about 18 months ago. How's that 37th counteroffensive going?

American's don't have to pay for some war between two ex-soviet countries forever. Despite all the constant propaganda being regurgitated, the west's future doesn't actually hinge on Ukraine.
Americans love that huge amounts of federal budget get thrown at huge war budgets in peacetime, but when there is a real war, they start to panic that a tiny fraction of that budget is actually being used to defend democracy.
 
But we will. Because it’s a good idea.

You remind me a lot of an old coworker, who insisted the space program is a waste of money when there’s a bunch of other stuff we could pay for instead. The lack of forward thinking or imagination took me off guard.

Anyway!

If we don't prop up the Ukranian economy indefinitely, we'll never make it to Mars. Or drink Tang!
 

Dracor

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I did call it a stalemate about 18 months ago. How's that 37th counteroffensive going?

American's don't have to pay for some war between two ex-soviet countries forever. Despite all the constant propaganda being regurgitated, the west's future doesn't actually hinge on Ukraine.

I don’t agree with Lindsey Graham on a lot of things, but his response here works best:

“Ukraine used 3% of US defense budget to destroy half of Russian army. (…) This is the best investment for American security ever.”​

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Heck, maybe we should go to 6% this next year!
 
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Days like these...

Have a Blessed Day
Americans love that huge amounts of federal budget get thrown at huge war budgets in peacetime, but when there is a real war, they start to panic that a tiny fraction of that budget is actually being used to defend democracy.
Americans love lining the pockets of defense contractors hand over fist as long as we hoard all the weapons
 
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BlackTron

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I did call it a stalemate about 18 months ago. How's that 37th counteroffensive going?

American's don't have to pay for some war between two ex-soviet countries forever. Despite all the constant propaganda being regurgitated, the west's future doesn't actually hinge on Ukraine.

You're right. This is important for the future of the entire free world, not just the west.

If someone said they could eviscerate Russia's military with 3% of our existing defense budget, you'd take it. But if it happens while defending the free world (the only way it would be legal, really), it sucks and you don't want it. I guess in that context, all people can see is the suffering of people across the sea put against their retirement benefits. Maybe we need better schools in America because this line of thinking is so brain-dead on so many levels it's infuriating. The first fallacy, of many, is that your retirement benefits or a myriad of other domestic problems ever had any connection to the Ukraine war. But it would be a shitty stance even if you did have to personally pay for it.

People with privilege always treat others like shit, even if the difference was a few cents, even when they're dying. These takes are misinformed at best and disgusting at worst.
 
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