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[ManaByte]

So what happens if Turkey gets pulled in? I have to say I'm just about completely ignorant of Turkey's international politics RE Europe. I know they import oil and food from Russia, does Russia have enough leverage to force Turkey to open the black sea peacefully?

1. Turkey really didn't close the Black Sea.
2. Russia accidentally hit a Turkish ship when beginning their stupidity, so I don't think Turkey is happy with them at the moment.

 

[cormack12]

Commitment to a number of certain Russian banks to be removed from Swift;
Oligarchs not allowed to use assets on the market;

Live from Ursula von der Leyen broadcast via BBC

 

[DeafTourette]

Reading that... I'm tearing up. As a Christian, I'm opposed to war... But what he did... He did for the protection of the people.

до зустрічі у воскресінні, брате мій

 

[Fare thee well]

Off course not. When have you ever heard of political consequences for assassinating a head of the second largest nuclear power sanctioned by a foreign power.

Right???

Guys???

Hello???

The only safe way I see Putin dying is from within (a coop, a domestic uprising, etc), and I'm sure a man like that sleeps in paranoia. If our goal is to throw off an unjust Russian occupation of a country by proxy, it would not be our first experience in that regard (though it did carry consequences later, 1979s Soviet-Afghan war). If we want to avoid nuclear war I think the toughest sanctions, digital warfare, weapons supplies, intel, and any other indirect aid is the only way we can do this. I hate not being able to have troops in there though; just as a gut feeling if I am being honest. But whatever the cost we should apply all external pressure possible! At least to try and end the conflict and save as many lives as possible.

Also Poland has been huge heroes in taking in refugees. Ty to all Poland.

 

[prinz_valium]

Commitment to a number of certain Russian banks to be removed from Swift;
Oligarchs not allowed to use assets on the market;

Live from Ursula von der Leyen broadcast via BBC

What banks? So I can short or buy them Monday morning

 

[Ionian]

So what happens if Turkey gets pulled in? I have to say I'm just about completely ignorant of Turkey's international politics RE Europe. I know they import oil and food from Russia, does Russia have enough leverage to force Turkey to open the black sea peacefully?

Considering what happened with Turkey, the EU welcomed them in with a tanked economy. It didn't go well. ECC kept throwing money at it to fix it as it was a danger in terms of a threat to Europe. Their economy was fucked, this during the biggest recession in our lifetime, one that kept getting exponentially worse. Europe kept getting weaker trying to hold shit together, taxes sored on member states to cover it. The answer was to throw money about in the hope it would be ok and have an ally. The EEC failed but massive swatches of Europe were on a drip by the EEC to keep their economies alive.

Economic history of Turkey - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org

 

[Agent_Nobody]

The longer it goes it worse it looks on Russia. Hey you never know, they still might win.

But if there's one thing Russia/Asian iron fisted governments treat as #1 priority is image and "saving face". If mighty Russia cant even take over Ukraine at a fraction of the military size it looks bad.

They can’t win in a straight up fight, but if it’s made as embarrassing as possible, where even the average Russian can’t ignore it, Putin will probably be forced to capitulate and leave, although probably keeping Donbas and claiming victory.

If anything this has shown how utterly overblown the Russian military really is, even the worst military fuck ups of the last 3 decades were better organized than this. The Ukrainians are doing remarkably well against the odds, and their continued high morale is inspiring.

 

[Vestal]

This is going to cripple Russia for years to come.





Keep mounting the pressure on this asshole.


Edit : they are also freezing Russian Central Bank assets and its ability to liquidate assets.

 

[akimbo009]

This is going to cripple Russia for years to come.





Keep mounting the pressure on this asshole.


Edit : they are also freezing Russian Central Bank assets and its ability to liquidate assets.

Got to love it.

 

[Nobody_Important]

 

[ManaByte]

This is going to cripple Russia for years to come.





Keep mounting the pressure on this asshole.


Edit : they are also freezing Russian Central Bank assets and its ability to liquidate assets.

Putin wanted to bring back the Soviet Union, but he's turning Russia in the Dollar General Soviet Union.

 

[jufonuk]

I think RT.com is down

 

[Nobody_Important]

This is going to cripple Russia for years to come.





Keep mounting the pressure on this asshole.


Edit : they are also freezing Russian Central Bank assets and its ability to liquidate assets.

Holy shit. That is way more than what I was expecting. This essentially cripples Russia's ability to do business anywhere. The Russian elite that Putin has surrounded himself with are going to be fucking PISSED.

 

[chromhound]

I think RT.com is down

Probably got hacked

 

[ManaByte]

I think RT.com is down

 

[InverseAgonist]

The Russian inability to control the airspace is baffling. You shouldn't be seeing heavy-lift cargo planes being shot down full of paratroops.

 

[Celcius]

I’m watching CNN and countries are openly admitting to providing aid to Ukraine. Putin isn’t sending out more threats?

 

[DragoonKain]

There is an argument that crippling Russia's economy hurts the Russian people, and that's true, but there is no perfect solution here. I think this is clearly the right one. For one, the alternative is allowing Ukraine to be butchered and their people suffering too. Also, crippling Russia's economy could create major uprising from within Russia and pressure on Putin from his own citizens that he never had before. Drive a wedge between Putin and his own people.

 

[FunkMiller]

This is going to cripple Russia for years to come.





Keep mounting the pressure on this asshole.


Edit : they are also freezing Russian Central Bank assets and its ability to liquidate assets.

Great. Send the cunts back to the Stone Age. If the Russian people don’t want that, they’ll have to do something about it.

 

[Go_Ly_Dow]

BBC reporting a huge siege on Kyiv from all directions may commence tonight.....

 

[chromhound]

Only thing left is arrest to Putin and his followers in power

 

[Mato]

I’m watching CNN and countries are openly admitting to providing aid to Ukraine. Putin isn’t sending out more threats?

That's not NATO, it's individual countries.

 

[jufonuk]

Holy shit. That is way more than what I was expecting. This essentially cripples Russia's ability to do business anywhere. The Russian elite that Putin has surrounded himself with are going to be fucking PISSED.

I think they are going to turn on putin.

Seems everyone is turning against him

 

[FunkMiller]

The Russian inability to control the airspace is baffling. You shouldn't be seeing heavy-lift cargo planes being shot down full of paratroops.

Stingers, probably.

 

[Fare thee well]

The Russian inability to control the airspace is baffling. You shouldn't be seeing heavy-lift cargo planes being shot down full of paratroops.

I hope these reports are all real. The more Russia fails, the better!

 

[Vestal]

There is an argument that crippling Russia's economy hurts the Russian people, and that's true, but there is no perfect solution here. I think this is clearly the right one. For one, the alternative is allowing Ukraine to be butchered and their people suffering too. Also, crippling Russia's economy could create major uprising from within Russia and pressure on Putin from his own citizens that he never had before. Drive a wedge between Putin and his own people.

Its absolutely true, but we don't have any other viable option. Basically 3 options.

1. Do nothing, and Ukraine gets butchered while Russia grows stronger.
2. Cripple the Russian economy through sanctions, which will hurt the common Russian citizen in the hopes of forcing Putin to stop, or cause instability within Russia that would lead to a coup or Putin being toppled.
3. Put boots on the ground and have a real world altercation between Nato and Russian forces head to head.. Aka the opening salvo of WW3.

 

[MadAnon]

The Russian inability to control the airspace is baffling. You shouldn't be seeing heavy-lift cargo planes being shot down full of paratroops.

There's nothing confirmed. I would take these big claims with a huge grain of salt. You would have visual proof of such big planes taken down.

 

[Vestal]

Great. Send the cunts back to the Stone Age. If the Russian people don’t want that, they’ll have to do something about it.

Easier said than done.. As we have seen over the past few days, people are getting dragged by the hundreds to jail for simply protesting the war in Russia.

 

[Braag]

I think RT.com is down

Apparently Anonymous has been on their ass. Dunno if it's them again.

 

[jufonuk]

Its absolutely true, but we don't have any other viable option. Basically 3 options.

1. Do nothing, and Ukraine gets butchered while Russia grows stronger.
2. Cripple the Russian economy through sanctions, which will hurt the common Russian citizen in the hopes of forcing Putin to stop, or cause instability within Russia that would lead to a coup or Putin being toppled.
3. Put boots on the ground and have a real world altercation between Nato and Russian forces head to head.. Aka the opening salvo of WW3.

I don’t want option 3

 

[ManaByte]

There's nothing confirmed. I would take these big claims with a huge grain of salt. You would have visual proof of such big planes taken down.

US DOD confirmed the first two went down.

 

[Vestal]

I don’t want option 3

Which is why we are going with Option 2.......

Absolutely no one wants Option 3....

 

[FunkMiller]

Can’t be verified as yet, but if this was true, it would be quite something. If the Russian military will starts to falter…

 

[MadAnon]

Stingers, probably.

Airdrops happen from altitudes way above Stinger range. Stingers are short range aa weapons.

 

[chromhound]

 

[Nobody_Important]

Can’t be verified as yet, but if this was true, it would be quite something. If the Russian military will starts to falter…

Another source says the same thing

 

[Vestal]

Already posted above by Chromhound regarding StarLink.

 

[dotnotbot]

This is all so stressful, living in Warsaw just 200 kilometers from belarusian border, not knowing what this russian Hitler plans to do. I'm observing news all day and can't sleep, thinking if I should escape somewhere close to the western border. Can't even imagine the hell Ukrainians are going through right now.

 

[Fare thee well]

There is an argument that crippling Russia's economy hurts the Russian people, and that's true, but there is no perfect solution here. I think this is clearly the right one. For one, the alternative is allowing Ukraine to be butchered and their people suffering too. Also, crippling Russia's economy could create major uprising from within Russia and pressure on Putin from his own citizens that he never had before. Drive a wedge between Putin and his own people.

I agree for the longterm it might just create more pro-russian nationaliam and millitant sympathy. I think for the short term though, to end the fighting, we need all pressure all the time. I would be glad to help repair the Russian and Ukranian economy for their people after the fighting ends.

 

[Hypereides]

This is going to cripple Russia for years to come.





Keep mounting the pressure on this asshole.


Edit : they are also freezing Russian Central Bank assets and its ability to liquidate assets.

Oof, they've decided to unleash the economic "nuke" aka "the big hammer". Supposedly, one of the biggest sanctions imposed on a country to date.

My sympathy goes to the Russian people though. They're the ones who will suffer for one man's idiotic actions.

 

[Vestal]

Another source says the same thing

Will wait for further confirmation.. But this would massive.. Theoretically the opening salvo of an uprising within the Russia military against the state.

 

[Ma-Yuan]

Is that true? Cause can't see anything it on the msm.

 

[Vestal]

Is that true? Cause can't see anything it on the msm.

Unconfirmed..

 

[Forsete]

Where is Putin ?

Getting a new facelift and some more botox.

 

[Artoris]

I think they are going to turn on putin.

Seems everyone is turning against him

Putin is too radioactive for them

 

[FunkMiller]

 

[chromhound]

Another source says the same thing

I think It's fake

 

[FunkMiller]

Airdrops happen from altitudes way above Stinger range. Stingers are short range aa weapons.

Stingers can reach above 10 thousand feet.

 

[Celcius]

Can someone please explain the importance of this?

 

[GladiusFrog]

Can someone please explain the importance of this?

Satellite internet.