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Russia begins Invasion of Ukraine
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Nobody_Important
“Aww, it’s so...average,” she said to him in a cold brick of passion
Okay? I am kind of confused because everything that you just said does basically nothing to discount anything that I said.
Just in case let me be a little bit more clear in my meaning. Russia cannot "win" anymore in the sense that they come out on the other end of this in a more positive position than when they started. They have dug a hole so fucking deep that literally nothing they do from this point forward is going to get their head above the top of that hole.
Russia has started a needless war against a sovereign Nation, United the entirety of the world against it outside of maybe China and a handful of other inconsequential Nations, and completely tanked the absolute fuck out of its economy in the process.
There is no "winning" this for them anymore. Russia has basically fucked their own asses into the ground. They have not only embarrassed themselves on the international stage by showing how inept their military is, but they have also completely and utterly nuked their own economy along the way.
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All old tactics in a new world .. his days are numbered .
OldBoyGamer
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Just out of curiosity. Would you have preferred trump to have been in charge at this time?
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captainraincoat
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im wondering how long it will be before china moves on Taiwan
akimbo009
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Those "idiots" have out played Putin at every stage, and every step of this and ended up with a global response that's almost universally unified and doesn't have the US over committed. This is pretty remarkable, since the real long term adversary for the US is China, not Russia, and Europe has committed to hold their own independent of the US. It's pretty damn good.
Btw. Fuck Putin.
Nobody_Important
“Aww, it’s so...average,” she said to him in a cold brick of passion
Ukraine should have a official bill sent through their parliament to change their national motto to "Fuck around and find out
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StreetsofBeige
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Russia Hikes Rates to 20%, Bans Foreigners From Security Sales
(Bloomberg) -- The Bank of Russia hiked its key interest rate to 20%, introduced mandatory hard-currency revenues sales for exporters and banned brokers from selling securities by foreigners starting Monday in a bid to shield the nation’s assets from sweeping Western sanctions that include...
(Bloomberg) -- The Bank of Russia hiked its key interest rate to 20%, introduced mandatory hard-currency revenues sales for exporters and banned brokers from selling securities by foreigners starting Monday in a bid to shield the nation’s assets from sweeping Western sanctions that include penalties on the regualtor itself.
The interest rate will increase from 9.5% to 20%, the central bank said in a statement before ruble trading was due to open at 10 a.m. local time. Earlier Monday the regulator announced a temporary sales freeze on the Moscow Exchange, without specifying which securities the ban applies to. Governor Elvira Nabiullina is due to speak at 4 p.m. in Moscow, the central bank said.
akimbo009
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Russia Hikes Rates to 20%, Bans Foreigners From Security Sales
(Bloomberg) -- The Bank of Russia hiked its key interest rate to 20%, introduced mandatory hard-currency revenues sales for exporters and banned brokers from selling securities by foreigners starting Monday in a bid to shield the nation’s assets from sweeping Western sanctions that include...finance.yahoo.com
(Bloomberg) -- The Bank of Russia hiked its key interest rate to 20%, introduced mandatory hard-currency revenues sales for exporters and banned brokers from selling securities by foreigners starting Monday in a bid to shield the nation’s assets from sweeping Western sanctions that include penalties on the regualtor itself.
The interest rate will increase from 9.5% to 20%, the central bank said in a statement before ruble trading was due to open at 10 a.m. local time. Earlier Monday the regulator announced a temporary sales freeze on the Moscow Exchange, without specifying which securities the ban applies to. Governor Elvira Nabiullina is due to speak at 4 p.m. in Moscow, the central bank said.
Basically fucked. This will only hold things back for a little bit, along with the fixed currency rates they announced. This is Venezuela/Zimbabwe paths to hyper inflation.
Putin can stop this by pulling back, and withdrawing. He won't. So, down goes their economy and all those shitty oligarchs. Hate to see it.
Dr.D00p
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Up until this week I would have said not until at least the end of this decade, when they feel they have a big enough navy & air force to dominate the waters around Taiwan and fend off anything the USN can hit them with, further out in the Pacific...but it all depends on whether the Chinese think that the US & its allies will have the stomach for a peer to peer war over a (relatively) small island, thousands of miles from home.
This is why our reaction to current events is so crucial in determining when China makes its move.
HerjansEagleFeeder
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I know you Americans love to fight with each other over whos retiree is the better one, but I personally really don't believe I'd make much of a difference - which is to say the US security and defense apparatus is working perfectly.
nkarafo
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A successful nuke detonation requires some complex functions and math to get the yield you want out of it. There are some complex mechanisms that need to operate correctly in a span of nanoseconds. So it has to be a controlled detonation.
An accidental detonation would cause much smaller damage as most of the core would just meltdown instead of blasting it's energy in a large radius. And i don't think blasting a submarine with torpedoes could even cause an accidental nuke detonation either way.
Meicyn
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lmao
Dr.D00p
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FunkMiller
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Anyone with common sense, and not part of the hyper partisan political train one way or another, would rightly conclude that neither Joe Biden nor Donald Trump would be great in this situation, for very different reasons.
It’s the weakness in the presidency and the entire American political system of the last couple of decades that’s one of the chief reasons this invasion is happening.
Sadly, I doubt many will choice to see it this way, and will continue their pathetic little fight with the other side… because that’s a lot easier than dealing with the truth.
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tusharngf
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Russian Ruble Is Now Worth Less Than 1 U.S. Cent After SWIFT Bank Sanctions
Russian Ruble Is Now Worth Less Than 1 U.S. Cent After SWIFT Bank Sanctions
The Russian currency dropped nearly 26% to 105.27 per dollar, down from about 84 per dollar late Friday.
Banjo64
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Why use a nuke when they can level the entire City using thermos or MOABs? Without the radiation and threat of nuclear retaliation, whilst still using an unholy weapon.
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FunkMiller
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Russian Ruble Is Now Worth Less Than 1 U.S. Cent After SWIFT Bank Sanctions
Russian Ruble Is Now Worth Less Than 1 U.S. Cent After SWIFT Bank Sanctions
The Russian currency dropped nearly 26% to 105.27 per dollar, down from about 84 per dollar late Friday.time.com
Banjo64
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Why’s he not launched a nuke yet then? He’s gone from ‘no one should help Ukraine’ to doing nothing whilst the UK, US and EU have sent anti armour weapons and are now going to send full on fighter jets. What’s he waiting for? Where is his red line?
In Warfare you want your enemies to believe you are insane enough to do anything - the man wants to rule Ukraine, he doesn’t want to rule ashes.
Banjo64
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He’s encircling them, siege tactics. Starve the enemy basically.
Cyberpunkd
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But if he cuts the gas supply how will he get money? Gas revenue are a huge portion of Russia's budget e.g.:
Oil and Gas revenue 2021 - 9.06 trillion Rubles: https://www.statista.com/statistics...d gas revenue,figure over the observed period.
Total state revenue 2021 - 18.8 trillion Rubles: https://tass.com/economy/1232783
Russia literally barely exports things other than gas and raw materials.
Bragr
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tusharngf
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Bragr
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That's typical dictator stuff to show who's the "leader" in the room. It's childish. Can't believe grown-up men act like that.
IDKFA
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Lol. I mean, people didn't believe he'd invade Ukraine, yet here we are. Currently, I believe anything is possible.
Cyberpunkd
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It is not. Putin will be pushed aside by his generals before he can even blink if he even dares to suggest something like that. He is no Stalin.
Fare thee well
Neophyte
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It's so fucking frustrating that all the superpowers are just waiting until they have the means to do the wrong thing; every second of every day. There is no shred of morality or justice holding any of them in place. The minute someone with power can do the wrong thing, they do. Saying I tire of it.... is an understatement.
Gp1
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Russia Hikes Rates to 20%, Bans Foreigners From Security Sales
(Bloomberg) -- The Bank of Russia hiked its key interest rate to 20%, introduced mandatory hard-currency revenues sales for exporters and banned brokers from selling securities by foreigners starting Monday in a bid to shield the nation’s assets from sweeping Western sanctions that include...
(Bloomberg) -- The Bank of Russia hiked its key interest rate to 20%, introduced mandatory hard-currency revenues sales for exporters and banned brokers from selling securities by foreigners starting Monday in a bid to shield the nation’s assets from sweeping Western sanctions that include penalties on the regualtor itself.
The interest rate will increase from 9.5% to 20%, the central bank said in a statement before ruble trading was due to open at 10 a.m. local time. Earlier Monday the regulator announced a temporary sales freeze on the Moscow Exchange, without specifying which securities the ban applies to. Governor Elvira Nabiullina is due to speak at 4 p.m. in Moscow, the central bank said.
Brazil will retaliate now. We don't allow anyone to have the highest interest rate in the world.
Craig of War
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Did they really lost 191 Tanks already it seem Tanks are becoming worthless in 21st century war
Hypereides
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Navalny needs be broken out. The man looks completely malnourished from recent footage. The judicial system in Russia is broken as fuck too with a 99% conviction rate. He can't expect a fair re-trial.
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All these years later I still chuckle at what a fucking moron that guy is.
Unless Russia and/or China has built some super janky shit, no. Nuclear weapons use explosives to crush nuclear material down into a dense state where it reaches critical mass. If those explosives go off accidentally the chance they go off in a way that will allow them to create critical mass is very close to 0. If a missile sub had an accidental explosion of an unprimed warhead, it would essentially be like a bomb going off inside the sub. The sub would be damaged or destroyed, but the warhead would not go off.
To give you some food for thought, uranium was discovered in the 1700s. Nuclear bombs weren't invented until the 1940s, after Einstein came up with a newer, deeper understanding of physics and said "this should be possible." Nuclear explosions aren't easy to make happen.
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All these years later I still chuckle at what a fucking moron that guy is.
Are there any currencies tied to the ruble that will slump with this but not collapse? Seems like a good time to invest if so.
Doczu
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Does your username stand for I Don't Know Fuck Anything?
Russia would sign a fucking death sentence. Doesn't have to end in nuclear war, but they would surely get conventionally raped by whole NATO.
Go_Ly_Dow
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5300 troops stated here.
M1chl
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All these years later I still chuckle at what a fucking moron that guy is.
Aren't MIG 29s a hunk of shit jet anyway? My understanding is that they're very good at getting shot out of the sky, but not so good at shooting other jets out of the sky.
And on the topic of replacement, would the US realistically sell F-35s to eastern European countries? I think it's more likely that they buy Typhoons and Rafales, but if the US is selling jets east, it would probably be old F-16s, don't you think?
Cyberpunkd
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What I understand about modern nukes is you can literally abuse the shit out of them, hit them, drop them, and nothing will happen, even if the explosive materials goes off if the nuclear fission has not been started you will get a larger grenade and that will be it.
Even during WW2 you had bombs dropping from sky high where the arming mechanism malfunctioned and they bounced off the ground. Nowadays all the security mechanism are also way more sophisticated.
BadBurger
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My father worked on US fighter jets all his life. As he put it, Russian MIG's were basically target practice to even the old f14 fighters, let alone our current fighters.
Cyberpunkd
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This is the most likely scenario:
1. Good one - status quo, Putin will say the "security operation" has been completed, DPR and LPR continue to exist as vassal regions to Russia
2. Bad one - Ukraine will have to explicitly refuse joining NATO, probably by changing constitution
Of course both do not take into account that even if that is over Russia still has fuckton of sanctions, Germany just did a HISTORICAL 180 degrees turn on national security, UE is probably going to light speed energy diversification (watch Germany keeping the nuclear reactors going).
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