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Sacred 2 |OT| Lootwhores of all Platforms, Unite!

Hammer24

Banned
Tom Penny said:
Nah. I actually figured out how the skills correlate to points in your combat arts so now I got 4 level 37 helpers with me at all times. I can wait on the dual weilding :D

This is probably the table you are looking for:

Character level.........1....2....3....5....8....11....12....18....21....25....35....50....65....150
New skill choice..............X....X....X....X...........X......X.............X.....X......X......X......... (10 is max)
# of skill pts per lvl.........1-->.....2-->.............3-->................4-->.........5-->
# of attr pts per lvl..........1-->..............................................................2-->.........3-->
new weapon slot...................X................X....................X...........................................
new CA slot..........................X................X....................X...........................................


Hope this helps :)
 

Hammer24

Banned
Cahill said:
I laughed and was pissed at the same time cause I was in the middle of friggin' nowhere with a dead $100K pony...

speedlore.gif

SPEED LORE: Increases Run Speed, as well as Attack and Defence values with all weapons
:lol
 

Mik2121

Member
Woah.. a.. pony! costs 100k?!
Crap.. I guess having now 160k isn't really all that much :(

Also, when do I get my first mount? I'm still level 14 or something around that and I just got to the 2nd.. city or whatever you can call it (the one with the drunken guy and all that, with kobolds all around)
 

Ricker

Member
Loudninja said:
The escort quests are horrible ;(


I f worst goes to worst,meaning you see the escort running away from you to god knows where,just keep running towards your destination,if you can,and they will repop right besides you...the last 2 escort quests,I just ran straight to the circled destination and made it,at one point I must of had a 20 wolves train behind me :D
 
Ricker said:
I f worst goes to worst,meaning you see the escort running away from you to god knows where,just keep running towards your destination,if you can,and they will repop right besides you...the last 2 escort quests,I just ran straight to the circled destination and made it,at one point I must of had a 20 wolves train behind me :D

Also, I was suprised to find that NPCs you are escorting can quick travel with you - certainly made about 5 or so escort missions I was doing last night a hell of a lot easier.

Anyways, i'm totally hooked on this game - got in on Monday from VG+ and have played just over 15 hours with a level 15 Dryad. I can't believe the scale of the world, Sacred 2 is really a loot-whore's dream game and I can't wait to explore further :)
 

bjaelke

Member
Mik2121 said:
Woah.. a.. pony! costs 100k?!
Crap.. I guess having now 160k isn't really all that much :(

Also, when do I get my first mount? I'm still level 14 or something around that and I just got to the 2nd.. city or whatever you can call it (the one with the drunken guy and all that, with kobolds all around)
I got my special mount at level 15 and then again at level 19 and level 20 (it died twice).
 

Cahill

Banned
Hammer24 said:
speedlore.gif

SPEED LORE: Increases Run Speed, as well as Attack and Defence values with all weapons
:lol

LOL!

It really was funny. The thing just fell over with its legs sticking straight out and everything. I went, "Oh what the fuuuuu..." ...I poured a potion out in his honor. ;)


Woah.. a.. pony! costs 100k?!
Crap.. I guess having now 160k isn't really all that much :(

Also, when do I get my first mount? I'm still level 14 or something around that and I just got to the 2nd.. city or whatever you can call it (the one with the drunken guy and all that, with kobolds all around)

Think the first mounts are in the Elf Village. There's cheaper ones (depends on your level) but I had to buy a new one just to get to the quests so I could then buy my unique mount. Kinda sucked.
 

Panajev2001a

GAF's Pleasant Genius
Ricker said:
I must of had a 20 wolves train behind me :D

I think that's the right moment to activate a custom soundtrack if you are playing this on the Xbox 360 (does the PS3 version of the game support them? [if I do pick it up it would be on PS3 regardless of the answer to this question of mine, but I am just curious]).
 

Hammer24

Banned
Ricker said:
at one point I must of had a 20 wolves train behind me :D

Made a new pest control combo: first radiant pillar, then assailing somersault. RP is modified with hypnosis, AS with spurt.
Basically cast it into a mob a distance away, hypnosis makes the mob stand still, stare at the light and bravely take the damage; then John-Woo-somersault right into their middle and finish them off. Collect loot after less than 5sec. :D
 

PuMa

Member
Panajev2001a said:
I think that's the right moment to activate a custom soundtrack if you are playing this on the Xbox 360 (does the PS3 version of the game support them? [if I do pick it up it would be on PS3 regardless of the answer to this question of mine, but I am just curious]).

Yes.
 

Loudninja

Member
Panajev2001a said:
I think that's the right moment to activate a custom soundtrack if you are playing this on the Xbox 360 (does the PS3 version of the game support them? [if I do pick it up it would be on PS3 regardless of the answer to this question of mine, but I am just curious]).

Yeah they do :D
 

Mik2121

Member
Holy crap I HATE the escort missions! I was with this douche and all of a sudden he started running for no reason against a group of Kobolds and zombies or skeletons or whatever they were, and I tried to help him out but he died, and because he kept running for so long, the amount of enemies was HUGE and they even killed me!. And even worse, all that crap got saved so I can't go back.. ughhh


Now I have two quests failed, and both are escorting ones.


(didn't know if u go somewhere else, the NPC will show up next to you.. didn't read the replies here until now)
 

Kauza

Member
Metalic Sand said:
What lvl are your skills/runes at? That casting time is insane. My lvl 28 high elf has like 10 second Fire wall cast ect....

Think im like lvl 9 or so Fire wall. Tons of points into the 2 pyro skills. alot into concentration too.

After I realized how much the Incandescent Skin skill helped with casting time, I started dropping a ton of points into it. I think it is up to level 17 or so (my fire lore is high enough to where I don't get a penalty until skill level 19.) If I don't keep that buff turned on, my casting times lengthen considerably.

I've also been using every available weapon or armor slot to use enhance, which gives a nice decrease in regen time. I think my staff has a -20 bonus with two slots used for enhance. It's expensive as hell to do that, but it's worth it, especially now that my character has 2 million gold or so.
 

PuMa

Member
Mik2121 said:
Holy crap I HATE the escort missions! I was with this douche and all of a sudden he started running for no reason against a group of Kobolds and zombies or skeletons or whatever they were, and I tried to help him out but he died, and because he kept running for so long, the amount of enemies was HUGE and they even killed me!. And even worse, all that crap got saved so I can't go back.. ughhh


Now I have two quests failed, and both are escorting ones.


(didn't know if u go somewhere else, the NPC will show up next to you.. didn't read the replies here until now)

Don't worry about it. A few lost escort missions won't hurt ya. Also, as someone else mentioned earlier, if the people you are escorting start running away from baddies, just keep running in whatever direction you were going in. They will automatically spawn after you, so don't chase after them.
 

Mik2121

Member
Btw, there's something "strange" going on, though maybe it's on purpose.

I'm on the second 'orange' mission, one about some taxes, and the circle in the map keep changing it's location, sometimes being around the very beginning, sometimes quite far... is this a glitch or is the thieves (I think) just keep moving to different locations?

Also, the first horses are on the Elf camp? I guess I'll go there because I need something to make me move faster!!
 

Diseased Yak

Gold Member
GreekWolf said:
I know you've played through the PC version extensively, but are you still uncovering new areas of the game world?

Oh, heck yeah. In my time on the PC version, I never even entered the desert but a few times. I spent most of my time up north doing various things. The game is so massive, it boggles the mind.

I love how you transition into new areas too. The area leading to the desert slowly gets more dead, the grasses turning more and more brown, before it finally runs out completely and there you are, getting attacked by a scorpion the size of a yak.

My friend and I, on our jaunt into the desert, decided it would be a laugh to buy two nags at the horse vendor in Khorum and ride our way south. After blowing ~121k gold on some old dusty nags, we headed out... and he promptly lost his mount to a dude riding a beetle after stepping not 5 feet out the south gate of the city! We were swarmed with level 29 baddies (I am level 28, he was only 21) and it was just too much to withstand. I was laughing my ass off at the nag carcass laying at the gates of the city. So much for our grand expedition south!
 
Is there like a "basics" guide I can read or something, because I don't really know what I'm doing. I haven't upgraded anything or spent any skill points yet, or used any runes, or sold any items. I'm afraid of making a mistake. Awesome game, I just feel like I don't understand some of the basics. Don't want to dig myself into a hole and have to start over. Are there any mistakes I should make sure NOT to do?
 

Hammer24

Banned
Loudninja said:
What the hell? I see someone level 21 with 24 kills and 108 deaths.

Maybe someone misunderstood this skill:

pacifism.gif

Pacifism: Reduces incoming damage from hostile players (PvP). All possible ramifications still unknown.

:lol
 

Hammer24

Banned
SHOTEH FOCK OP said:
Are there any mistakes I should make sure NOT to do?

Not on silver and bronze difficulty, there are none.

If you DO want to develop your character, look at the table I posted earlier (post #1551), this helps to understand what level up gives you how many boni.
Then look into the Wiki to see what combat arts and skills are available to your character class and plan when you are going to take what.
The only thing to constantly keep in mind when distributing skill points is to balance between gain by levelling a skill up versus the regeneration time hit it gives you therefore.

Otherwise - just try around and have fun. You can always start with another class.
 

Cahill

Banned
SHOTEH FOCK OP said:
Is there like a "basics" guide I can read or something, because I don't really know what I'm doing. I haven't upgraded anything or spent any skill points yet, or used any runes, or sold any items. I'm afraid of making a mistake. Awesome game, I just feel like I don't understand some of the basics. Don't want to dig myself into a hole and have to start over. Are there any mistakes I should make sure NOT to do?


Shouldn't be afraid of making a mistake man. Use the wiki to read up on some stuff for your character but "basically", just watch your Combat Arts levels (how many Runes you use) because you can increase the regen times too much. Other than that, I'm just picking Skills I want or think I'd like and that I think are useful. *shrug*

http://www.sacredwiki.org/index.php5/Sacred_2:Fallen_Angel
 
SHOTEH FOCK OP said:
Is there like a "basics" guide I can read or something, because I don't really know what I'm doing. I haven't upgraded anything or spent any skill points yet, or used any runes, or sold any items. I'm afraid of making a mistake. Awesome game, I just feel like I don't understand some of the basics. Don't want to dig myself into a hole and have to start over. Are there any mistakes I should make sure NOT to do?

What class are you using?
 

Aurora

Member
Hammer24 said:
Attention Yuropeans: VGPlus has the game back in stock, no idea how long it´ll last this time (their 3rd restock...)!
Ahh fuck it, ordered my own copy. Can't be bothered to wait for UK release.
How long did delivery take you Hammer?
 
SHOTEH FOCK OP said:
I picked Shadow Warrior since the manual said it is good for beginners.

He's hard to fuck up.

I would probably take one skill point in the weapon of your choice

one skill point in armor lore

give yourself the option to mod at least the astral lord aspect with a skill point in that
 

Hammer24

Banned
Anerythristic said:
He's hard to fuck up.

I would probably take one skill point in the weapon of your choice

one skill point in armor lore

give yourself the option to mod at least the astral lord aspect with a skill point in that

I´d even add an additional point for shield lore, and you´re on the best way to an indestructible tank. (just don´t forget to put the shield on the same button as your onehanded weapon!)
 

bjaelke

Member
The more you add the more powerful they get but the regeneration time also increases. It's a question of preference but I suggest you only read one of each rune :)
 

Hammer24

Banned
SHOTEH FOCK OP said:
So I have a bunch of runes. Should I just use them all?

Only the ones you really want! Trade the others with a runemaster (4-->1) for those you really want to use.
Tips:
- concentrate on one or max. two aspects (Death Warrior, Malevolent Champion, Astral Lord for the Shadow Warrior)
- when you choose your aspect, put points into the corresponding skill: Astral Lord Lore and Astral Lord Focus for the Astral Lord aspect, Death Warrior Focus for Death Warrior, Malevolent Champion Focus for Malevolent Champion
- do not use more runes then you put points in the corresponding skill (f.i. if you want to use three runes for Scything Sweep, you should also put three points into Death Warrior Focus
 

Xenon

Member
One of the best features of this game is the vibration when you get to low health. Had that not been there I would have died hundreds of times.
 
SHOTEH FOCK OP said:
Is there like a "basics" guide I can read or something, because I don't really know what I'm doing. I haven't upgraded anything or spent any skill points yet, or used any runes, or sold any items. I'm afraid of making a mistake. Awesome game, I just feel like I don't understand some of the basics. Don't want to dig myself into a hole and have to start over. Are there any mistakes I should make sure NOT to do?

Posted this a few pages back:

For anyone thinking about starting, here are seven beginner tips:

1) In this game, you should HOLD DOWN the button to continue attacking, don't mash the button, it will only slow things down.

2) Start a game on Silver difficulty. Bronze is super easy and for beginners, sort of like a "My first RPG mode." Silver is slightly difficult for the first few levels (the first 10-20 minutes) but becomes easier after that.

3) In this game you don't have magic points. Instead, every spell just has a certain amount of "cool down time" before you can use it again. However, if you keep holding down the spell button, rather than just standing there, your character will default to their basic attack until the spell/ability regenerates.

4) You upgrade spells ("Combat Arts") by reading runes (books). You can trade in runes for skills you may not be interested in focusing on for the specific ones you want at the town's rune master. More you trade in the cheaper the new one will be. This is the only way to upgrade a spell's level, using the runes for that spell.

5) You upgrade your "Attributes" and "Skills" by gaining levels. These are like other action RPGs, you get points to put in the various areas. But you only get 10 "Skills" over the course of the game, so choose them wisely. Choosing skills that are related to the spell category you use most is wise because it will allow you to add extra effects to the spells and lower the regen time. But you will also want skills in things like Armor Lore (which will allow you to wear armor without effecting the regeneration time of your spells and give extra defense) and Tactics (which will allow you to use modificiations for weapons, increase your damage and change for critical hits). If you hit left and right on the skills selection screen it will cycle through the different types of skills, the first one it brings you to is just the skills associated with your magic spells.

6) The more you upgrade spells, the longer the regen rate will be. However, there are ways to reduce this. One is by upgrading the Skill associated with the class the magic is from (each character has 3 different classes of magic, they are listed on the "Combat Arts" screen). The skill associated with the spell will allow you to upgrade it to a certain level without any regen penalty. When you upgrade this skill, this level will increase and you will also gain new attributes for your spell. Increasing your stamina and wearing certain items will also help reduce your regen time. But you want to keep your regen time in mind when you are decided whether or not to upgrade a spell further.

7) As you upgrade your "Skills," at certain levels, the skills associated with a certain group of Combat Arts (your spells) will grant you attribute points to put into your spells. These appear as little numbers next to red dots on your Combat Arts screen. These are not level upgrades (again, you get those from runes), rather they are extra attributes you add on top of your spells. You can add 3 total attribute upgrades to each spell. Each time you upgrade, you will have two options. When you select a spell to upgrade, it will show two paths with a description at the bottom the denotes the difference. You may bounce back and forth between these two paths at will.
 
So I'm guessing the set armors actually can be different levels depending on when you get them? One set has a different level on a stats page online then say the set peice my friend got.
 

Tom Penny

Member
Hammer24 said:
This is probably the table you are looking for:

Character level.........1....2....3....5....8....11....12....18....21....25....35....50....65....150
New skill choice..............X....X....X....X...........X......X.............X.....X......X......X......... (10 is max)
# of skill pts per lvl.........1-->.....2-->.............3-->................4-->.........5-->
# of attr pts per lvl..........1-->..............................................................2-->.........3-->
new weapon slot...................X................X....................X...........................................
new CA slot..........................X................X....................X...........................................


Hope this helps :)

Yeah. If I create another build I will surely know alot more. They don't tell you anything int he booklet that comes with the game so I misused alot of the extra combat points I could have used on abilities I actually use the most. Oh well.
 

Mik2121

Member
I have a question.

Right now I'm playing in the single player mode and I'm about level 15 I think. I've seen in the 'Create Game' option in the main screen, that there's a "Quick Match" and "Custom Match" or something like that. If I click in any of those, would I be able to use my lv15 character or I would begin with another one? Also, if I use that character in some online game, then I can go back to the single player mode and continue from where I left (and with the new levels/stats I got in the online game)?.
 
I leveled up to about 18 last night with some help from QVT and Eric WK. It's hard staying alive when you're cruising around with higher level players - I had to stand in the back and spam arrows. My dryad is slowly getting to where I want her, but my cooldowns are still somewhat long since I always leave Sinister Predator and Ancient Bark buffs on. I have some runes for both that I haven't read yet because I don't use Darting Assault and Ravaged Impact as much as I'd like due to their regen times. Guess I'll put some more points into Concentration and some of the focus skills before reading runes. I also need to upgrade my armor a bit and do some forging - I haven't messed around with it too much thus far.
 

Hammer24

Banned
EternalGamer said:
Sacred2 for Dummies.

This is now part of the OP.


Tom Penny said:
Yeah. If I create another build I will surely know alot more. They don't tell you anything int he booklet that comes with the game so I misused alot of the extra combat points I could have used on abilities I actually use the most. Oh well.

Well, you live, you learn... :D
In a couple of weeks, when we all have enough experience how to build, there will be some interesting PvP battles, I´m sure.
 

Diseased Yak

Gold Member
Hammer24 said:
In a couple of weeks, when we all have enough experience how to build, there will be some interesting PvP battles, I´m sure.

I'd definitely be up for that! It would be interesting to see how one build goes up against another. If anyone wants to try this out just for fun let me know.
 
Mik2121 said:
I have a question.

Right now I'm playing in the single player mode and I'm about level 15 I think. I've seen in the 'Create Game' option in the main screen, that there's a "Quick Match" and "Custom Match" or something like that. If I click in any of those, would I be able to use my lv15 character or I would begin with another one? Also, if I use that character in some online game, then I can go back to the single player mode and continue from where I left (and with the new levels/stats I got in the online game)?.

You can use your character in any mode on any difficulty (given the character is the appropriate minimal level for that difficulty). However, you can only use him for the type of story quests they have aligned with. If your character is playing a "light quest" they have to always play light. If they are playinga dark quest, they have to always play dark. However in "Free Mode" light and dark characters can play together.
 

Cahill

Banned
Mik2121 said:
I have a question.

Right now I'm playing in the single player mode and I'm about level 15 I think. I've seen in the 'Create Game' option in the main screen, that there's a "Quick Match" and "Custom Match" or something like that. If I click in any of those, would I be able to use my lv15 character or I would begin with another one? Also, if I use that character in some online game, then I can go back to the single player mode and continue from where I left (and with the new levels/stats I got in the online game)?.

Yes. Same character can play singe/multi and switch back and forth. The only note is that if you join someone's games you are helping them with THEIR quests. You keep loot/XP earned though.

Edit: DAMMIT. Always beaten by seconds. ;)
 

Amneisac

Member
I love this game, but does anyone else wish you could respec your skills if you break your character?

I would be fine with a huge fee (50k or something to change skills around) but I've rolled about 10 characters so far and deleted most of them around level 15 because I made a mistake with my build.

I admit I'm a bit OCD with trying to maximize my leveling, but this is on a whole other level where you can actually break your character if you get your recast timers too out of whack.

What do you guys think, would you welcome the ability to respec (if it was difficult / costly enough that you couldn't do it at will) or am I just a pansy? .. or both?
 

Mik2121

Member
What's this free mode? Free roaming through the whole map killing things without having to do quests?

Also, any way to chat using text on the PS3 version? I've got a keyboard..
 

Cahill

Banned
Amneisac said:
I love this game, but does anyone else wish you could respec your skills if you break your character?

I would be fine with a huge fee (50k or something to change skills around) but I've rolled about 10 characters so far and deleted most of them around level 15 because I made a mistake with my build.

I admit I'm a bit OCD with trying to maximize my leveling, but this is on a whole other level where you can actually break your character if you get your recast timers too out of whack.

What do you guys think, would you welcome the ability to respec (if it was difficult / costly enough that you couldn't do it at will) or am I just a pansy? .. or both?


Not really because you can lower the regen times through skills/points etc.
 

Hammer24

Banned
Amneisac said:
I admit I'm a bit OCD with trying to maximize my leveling, but this is on a whole other level where you can actually break your character if you get your recast timers too out of whack.

Why would that be? You can always put points in categories to get the regen time down again. Or are you going on Niobium difficulty?

What do you guys think, would you welcome the ability to respec (if it was difficult / costly enough that you couldn't do it at will) or am I just a pansy? .. or both?

For me its part of the fun to try around and learn from my mistakes, always thinking "the next build will be better". If you could respec, it would lower the replay value for me.
 
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