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Saints Row 2 |OT|

DeadGzuz

Banned
The frame rate seems as bad as the first one, this game is lucky to keep 20 fps with v-sync on (360 version).

I really enjoy the co-op though, I would never touch it without co-op.
 

Amir0x

Banned
Wow Crowd Control lvl 5 and 6 were really tough, but I finally did it alone.

Mr. Durden said:
but there are a lot of things that are graphically better in Saints Row 2 than in GTA IV (character models, car models etc)

Could not disagree more. I think the character models - both stylistically and technically - look quite a bit better, and the car models are probably par... but GTAIV frequently has better textures.
 

Dead Man

Member
Nozdeuce said:
Uhh, well it could be something simple, or you could just be boned. That sounds really really messed up and isn't a problem that's been mentioned here before. You can try going to the official troubleshooting forum and ask about it there.
No, it was simple. The problem was I am a fucking idiot. I prefer using the dpad in menus. Just habit. All the other menus in SR seem to work fine with the dpad, but not the playlist one. Using the left stick works fine. Stupid me and stupid devs!

Edit: Also, when does the
easy listing station disappear to be replaced by world music?
I just noticed it. Is it a plot point I missed? I only have 2 Ronin missions to go then the end missions.

Edit2: I really am stupid. I just founds a clothes store I missed. I didn't go up. It's got the one piece suits and the rest of the stuff I was looking for.
 

Xater

Member
Amir0x said:
Wow Crowd Control lvl 5 and 6 were really tough, but I finally did it alone.



Could not disagree more. I think the character models - both stylistically and technically - look quite a bit better, and the car models are probably par... but GTAIV frequently has better textures.

The cars also have a way better damage system in GTA4.

@pr0cs: Is it enough confimation that I was able to play 3 games in like 5 days? It just doesn't work.
 
Goddamn it, I entered in the mini-bike code and now I've got cheats enabled for my only save. Oh well, PS3 trophies probably wont be retroactive if they ever include them.
 

Amir0x

Banned
Xater said:
The cars also have a way better damage system in GTA4.

Good point!

Also, I think the physics in GTA4 are generally just so much more fun to fuck around with than Saint's Row. That was my favorite thing about GTA4, just fucking around the city with the nuts-o physics. In Saint's Row 2, it's not nearly as fun in that regard.

Anyway, regardless, GTA4 can still learn many things from SR2 and I hope it does re-introduce many activities in GTA5.
 

Loudninja

Member
Amir0x said:
Good point!

Also, I think the physics in GTA4 are generally just so much more fun to fuck around with than Saint's Row. That was my favorite thing about GTA4, just fucking around the city with the nuts-o physics. In Saint's Row 2, it's not nearly as fun in that regard.

Anyway, regardless, GTA4 can still learn many things from SR2 and I hope it does re-introduce many activities in GTA5.

I agree with this, both games can learn from each other.
 

Dead Man

Member
Amir0x said:
Good point!

Also, I think the physics in GTA4 are generally just so much more fun to fuck around with than Saint's Row. That was my favorite thing about GTA4, just fucking around the city with the nuts-o physics. In Saint's Row 2, it's not nearly as fun in that regard.

Anyway, regardless, GTA4 can still learn many things from SR2 and I hope it does re-introduce many activities in GTA5.
I agree completely. The SR2 throwing mechanic, with the physics from GTA IV would have been unreal.
 

Nozdeuce

If there was an Official MGO Community Leader, I'd be it
SR2 physics fun can be salvaged with the low gravity cheat
#18 on your phone
 

Nino

*LOVES* Bob Marley
Red Blaster said:
Goddamn it, I entered in the mini-bike code and now I've got cheats enabled for my only save. Oh well, PS3 trophies probably wont be retroactive if they ever include them.
I entered the UFO code but I can still get achievements. Does the game penalize you for using cheats in any way?
 
Nino said:
I entered the UFO code but I can still get achievements. Does the game penalize you for using cheats in any way?

Well apparently you can't get achievements if you've got cheats enabled. Go to your save games and see if there's an asterisk that says "Cheats Enabled" on them. I've got it on mine.
 

Nino

*LOVES* Bob Marley
Red Blaster said:
Well apparently you can't get achievements if you've got cheats enabled. Go to your save games and see if there's an asterisk that says "Cheats Enabled" on them. I've got it on mine.
Apparently the UFO doesnt count, I just tried another cheat and I got a warning about achievements.

I'm fucked, after a cutscene I spawned on the inside of a building without interior and there's no way to get out of it. And I have no explosives to blow myself up. :(

edit; thank god for autosave.
 

Beq

Neo Member
I am loving this game. Havent even started a mission yet (other than the first 2 or 3 which you pretty much have to do).

Going through doing all the activities. I have a question though, I was doing the tow truck diversion, and made it to level 5 or 6, a car blew up right beside me and that was pretty much the end of me. If I start it again, do I have to start from level 1, or from where I left off?

I also had to turn down the difficulty to novice on the level 6 drug trafficking mission. It just got way too frustrating for me. Kept dying in really annoying ways. The damn driver kept hitting a pole half the time, backing up - driving forward - backing up - etc.

The satchel charges are fucking awesome though, I blew up 3 of the enemies laying one down on the road and set them off while they were driving over it. Badass.

I really dont know why everyone is saying that the graphics are bad. I find them pretty awesome, especially with everything going on.
 

Beq

Neo Member
burnfout said:
Completed mayhem! Yeah!

Level 6 was pissing me off like crazy though! Finally managed to get in the factories district.


Anybody else who is stuck on this, go behind houses with your RPG. There should be a ton of tables, chairs, fences, etc. I got a ton of points from those, got up to like a 90+ combo.

EDIT: Didn't even think about the satchel charges. setting them all of at one time is probably better.
 

eXistor

Member
Alright, I've played a bit more and the game, while no classic in any way imo, is very fun to play. The controls have grown on me, they are fine. The missions are so much more fun than in GTAIV. You just do crazy shit all the time and there are almost no minor annoyances that were so abundant in GTAIV. Tazering people never gets old and I love the way screams sound in the game, almost Tom & Jerry-like :). Still hate the way the game looks though, so drab.
 

Amir0x

Banned
Beq said:
Anybody else who is stuck on this, go behind houses with your RPG. There should be a ton of tables, chairs, fences, etc. I got a ton of points from those, got up to like a 90+ combo.

Here's what I do.

Get out of my car.
Get Satchel Charges. Toss them ALL OVER the place. I routinely get 2,000,000+ combos with that shit :lol
 
Nino said:
Apparently the UFO doesnt count, I just tried another cheat and I got a warning about achievements.

I'm fucked, after a cutscene I spawned on the inside of a building without interior and there's no way to get out of it. And I have no explosives to blow myself up. :(

edit; thank god for autosave.

Oh so there's a warning about cheats? I didn't get that when I did the code for the minibike, but I still have that damned asterisk by my save. Maybe it's because the PS3 doesn't have trophies.

You just do crazy shit all the time and there are almost no minor annoyances that were so abundant in GTAIV. Tazering people never gets old and I love the way screams sound in the game, almost Tom & Jerry-like :).

More credit needs to be given to Volition for just how tight the gunplay/on-foot mechanics are in SR2, it absolutely stomps GTA4 there.


Here's what I do.

Get out of my car.
Get Satchel Charges. Toss them ALL OVER the place. I routinely get 2,000,000+ combos with that shit

It looks incredible if you space them evenly down a street and then denoate them. Cascading explosions. :D
 

raYne

Member
Red Blaster said:
More credit needs to be given to Volition for just how tight the gunplay/on-foot mechanics are in SR2, it absolutely stomps GTA4 there.
It's the same as it was in the first. Just with new additions like fine aim, dual wielding and human shield. Anyway, yeah, we've been saying the same thing for years.

Actual good manual aim > shitty lock-on, no matter the game/genre. Melee combat and general controls are also light years ahead of what they are in GTAIV (as they also were in SR1). The only real toss up are the vehicle controls which are too loose in IV and too tight here. Though as far as gameplay goes, these are less detrimental.

edit:
Oh, and a tip for anyone having difficulty with the higher level Crowd Control missions: Skip the bonus zones and throwing people completely and grab a bat from a fan as soon as you can. It'll take a bit longer (1000 in bonus zone vs 250 for a bat to the skull) but it's far easier and WAY more fun. :D
 

ChrisD84

Member
I think my favorite addition to the game so far has to be Satchel Charges. I keep starting the mayhem activity and before i can get to the starting point, i'll have wandered off for 10 minutes creating havoc with the charges :D

I can already tell i'm going to play this for more than the 40 hours i put into the first game, there's just so many things to do! I've already played it for over 8 hours and i've hardly done anything ^^
 

zsswimmer

Member
Hey guys I got the Kobra pistol, and I thought it had infinite ammo. But today I whipped it out and and noticed that I only had about 25 rounds, and I ran out of ammo eventually. Has anyone else had this problem?
 

painey

Member
Mr. Durden said:
Well in some aspects maybe. Still, remember everyone praised GTA IV for its graphics, but there are a lot of things that are graphically better in Saints Row 2 than in GTA IV (character models, car models etc). GTA IV just had amazing lighting effects which camouflaged a lot of its lesser visual aspects.

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Amir0x

Banned
Red Blaster said:
It looks incredible if you space them evenly down a street and then denoate them. Cascading explosions. :D

Which, by the way, leads me to another slam against the visual package. Now most of the time, the framerate is pretty good for a game of this type.

But while laying satchel charges, and this happens each time, I had the framerate dip to LITERALLY less than 10fps... making it nearly impossible to accurately aim the charges at that point.
 

Nozdeuce

If there was an Official MGO Community Leader, I'd be it
Poor MMaRsu is going to have an aneurysm :(

Played around with a few cheats earlier finally. Low gravity, ped war and super explosions make for a fun combo. While having a giant Don Johnson is awesome, it isn't all that interesting, can't throw people, mostly can't melee people. Giant mode is really underwhelming
 
eh the graphics are passable, id rather have actual gameplay and shit to do in a sandbox if it means they spend less time on looking pretty, and more on what actually brought them to the dance in the first place.

Id say the activites in sr1 and 2 are much more polished than gtas ever were.
 

Mister D

Member
zsswimmer said:
Hey guys I got the Kobra pistol, and I thought it had infinite ammo. But today I whipped it out and and noticed that I only had about 25 rounds, and I ran out of ammo eventually. Has anyone else had this problem?


You get it for completing level 3 of one of the Fuzz instances. To get infinite pistol ammo, complete level 6.
 

Loudninja

Member
Nozdeuce said:
You'll be fine driving in SR, though some of the faster sports/supercars might give you a bit of trouble initially. You ever going to get your copy? :lol

Thanks, sounds good,about my copy I hope it arrives tomorrow, damn Buy.com :lol
 
Mr. Durden said:
Holy shit :lol
Did you guys do the (in Dutch: Tippel-afleidingsmaneuvre) Tippel-diversion near that porn joint in the redlight district, where you have to turn the tumb sticks to please someone or something, and at the end it says "you should be ashamed of yourselves", wtf :lol
only if you fail...
 

Manp

Member
DeadGzuz said:
The frame rate seems as bad as the first one, this game is lucky to keep 20 fps with v-sync on (360 version).


with v-sync on it's either 15 or 30 fps since i don't think they use triple buffering.

:)
 

Hootie

Member
Holy crap, anyone have tips on how to beat the Tow Truck diversion? By level 6 my truck was spewing out black smoke and I had 3 stars so I had to stop. The damn cars that are being towed make the truck swing back and forth like it's on ice.
 

raYne

Member
Hootie said:
Holy crap, anyone have tips on how to beat the Tow Truck diversion? By level 6 my truck was spewing out black smoke and I had 3 stars so I had to stop. The damn cars that are being towed make the truck swing back and forth like it's on ice.
Early in the thread, someone said you could recruit a homie (or two) with you and have him drive back the car you're suposed to tow. You could try that way..

You could also just take advantage of the perks you get from activities (gang/police notoriety drops faster) or wait until you take over the area. Then you'll have 50 Saints helping you on the mission. :lol
 

Hootie

Member
raYne said:
Early in the thread, someone said you could recruit a homie (or two) with you and have him drive back the car you're suposed to tow. You could try that way..

You could also just take advantage of the perks you get from activities (gang/police notoriety drops faster) or wait until you take over the area. Then you'll have 50 Saints helping you on the mission. :lol

If I recruit saints they'll drive the cars to the target location? Really?

I'm doing the Towing activity in the Suburbs district, which has Saints everywhere. It's just that I'll get 3 stars then the cops get all over my ass and shoot up my tow truck.
 

raYne

Member
Hootie said:
If I recruit saints they'll drive the cars to the target location? Really?

I'm doing the Towing activity in the Suburbs district, which has Saints everywhere. It's just that I'll get 3 stars then the cops get all over my ass and shoot up my tow truck.
Yeah, they should. It'd work just like any other time you recruit someone. If you jump in the tow truck and try to leave them, they'd would jump in the nearest vehicle (in this vehicle to be towed) and follow you wherever you're going.

In this specific case, you might have to sit in the other vehicle first before you head to the tow truck though. I personally haven't tried, but that's what was said before.
 

sullytao

Member
So I was just on level 9 of ambulance and all I need to do is heal 2 more people and with a tonne of bodies scattered around I think no problem. As I'm re sussing the next guy I'm suddenly blown backwards by what I assume to be a pipe bomb I turn around extremely pissed since all the victims are dead and see a flock of pimps dressed in all the colours of the rainbow heading towards me. I make a break for it and thankfully discover that I'm not there target but one of my gang members is.

While 4 of them beat the crap out of him the rest make a circle and start cheering them on. While this is happening 2 more members of my gang show up in a car and try and deal with them but before they can throw so much as a punch pimp reinforcements arrive and soon it turns out to be a full scale riot.

Enough is enough I think. Killing my patients is one thing but taking on my boys is just something else. While they are fighting I throw down a satchel to each group of brawlers, stand back and watch the skittles fly. After that I pop out the pimp cain and stroll away knowing I made a difference.
 

eXistor

Member
One thing that's really annoying in the game is when you kill a boss character and the game switches to a cutscene that shows the kill entirely different. Oh well at least the cutscenes are funny.
 

raYne

Member
MrTroubleMaker said:
:lol some of the old "real" SR1 phone numbers work :) zombie!!! ;)
Lin? OMGWTF!

I've been meaning to try that stuff out, but once you boot up the game there's 1000 other things that pop up. :lol
 
raYne said:
Pfft.. Lin or bust.
What tipped me off about the old numbers was a news report on the radio saying something about a zombie, so I thought the same thing. Who knows, they have so much stuff packed in this game, she might be there somewhere:)
 
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