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Saints Row IV |OT| One Nation, One Crew
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CambriaRising
Member
It's better in this game because it is completely broken by super powers.
Aggrotek
Member
Have since it debuted. Certain ragdolling is hilarious to me. I love just cartwheeling down the road headlong into a garbage truck. lol
XiaNaphryz
LATIN, MATRIPEDICABUS, DO YOU SPEAK IT
It was fun in 2 and 3 once you get adrenaline going and you're in a busy place like the highway or (in SR2) the airport, kinda broken in 4 with superpowers.
Hell yeah. It's always the first activity I go to. It's insane in IV, too. Literally flying across the map.
SpacePirate Ridley
Member
Just finished the game. Wow, I loved the ending. The endless possibilities now.
Maybe thats what they meant by a "reboot", not going to SR2 basics as some people are expecting.
And the game is fucking phenomenal from start to finish. And the superpowers are fun as hell.
Cities.....?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pE_KiVSzrYA
I expect a ton of Back to the future and Doctor Who references in SRV if they stay with that ending. And I loved the ending drawing of the gang in time, and the Jane Austen ending.
And the game is fucking phenomenal from start to finish. And the superpowers are fun as hell.
Cities.....?
Where we're going we don't need cities!
ViewtifulJC
Banned
This is actually the first SR where I actually enjoyed Insurance Fraud. The ragdolling across the city and bouncing off speeding cars is hilarious to me.
StopMakingSense
Member
Ack! The game crashed on the final mission!!
For Real
In SR3, my insurance fraud bugged out somehow and I was bouncing on multiple cars in a lineup when they weren't even moving :lol
Net_Wrecker
Member
Yup. Fraud was tedious in the past games.
I wish they'd come up with more activities that focus on actual mechanics like FUZZ, Crowd Control, Hitman, expanding drug trafficking, etc. I always found those more fulfilling than Insurance Fraud, or Mayhem, or Septic Avenger, where you're just ragdolling or shooting targets randomly.
Snatch should've been combined with Escort and turned into Saints Row Crazy Taxi mixing celebrities (+ paparazzi), hoes, homies, and random people all with unique dialog and less waiting for people to get in the car.
Demolition Derby, Racing, and Chop Shop being axed is disappointing.
Also, Fight Club was way better when it was just melee brawls with different fighting styles and weapons being tossed in.
tokyostomp
Banned
I did all the virus missions, hot spot/whatever they are called. can't re-access them
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yeah...no way in hell I'm gonna grind the challenges for trophies. It's a chore. Catch X amount of warden TK thrown. Fought 5 wardens and they threw may 4 things at me. Back to shelf with you SR!
-Deadpool-
Member
In the same boat.
Game is absolutely glorious, but damn it needs to stop freezing my PS3!
if you have the tornado/whirlwind ability then on-foot mayhem is an absolute joke
sprint around, get your ridiculous combos, finish in 1/3rd the time limit
Similar with the TK Balls mayhem.
If you have the "Holding things doesn't drain energy" then you can hold the ball with telekenesis and just spring down the street with the ball in front of you and it destroys everything in your path. I get golds in about 20-30 seconds.
Mushroomer25
Member
Finished it earlier today. Honestly, I really hope they take this as an opportunity to remove the open-world elements from the game. They've given themselves limitless options for missions - but not really full open worlds (unless they're much smaller & self contained). If the next Saints Row
, I'd be perfectly happy. The side missions have honestly become so boring to me. Besides orb collecting, I feel ZERO incentive to do any of them. But the cutscenes, character customization, and core missions make for one of the best experiences I've had all year. SRV needs to focus on this series' new direction, and fully embrace the madness.
is just a series of missions through history to try and eliminate the Zin from ever finding Earth, with historical homies from the collection
It's insanely enjoyable to do them that way.
XiaNaphryz
LATIN, MATRIPEDICABUS, DO YOU SPEAK IT
Don't you also need the "no ragdoll from explosions" upgrade for that to work right? I remember running around like that earlier in the game, but cars exploding when they hit the ball would cause me to fall down.
Yeah but just avoid cars, or I remember that if you would just slow down when you hit cars the explosion wouldn't reach you.
Professor Beef
Banned
There's a lot of awful activities. Rift racing/platforming,TK, certain mayhems if you don't have abilities to exploit them, towers (whereas with crackdown it was one tower that was like a puzzle and felt like an accomplishment, SR4's numerous ones are all the exact same and boring as shit), carjacking (who wants to drive when you have all these abilities?), fight club, etc.
Professor Beef
Banned
I like the Rift racing/TK challenges. ESPECIALLY the racing ones.
Really, don't get gold. It's totally not needed.
lem0n
Member
I'm actually finding that out. Been looking at what Gold gets me, and it's not much. The completionist in me though, ugh.
I know what you mean. The completionist in me made me want to push for golds but at some point I just looked at the reward and told myself "You have much more fun in this game when you're NOT playing these specific side activities. Enjoy yourself." and just brushed off stuff like the rift running and the ball throwing challenge.
ReturnOfTheRAT
Member
It's the most fun it has ever been. They broken it in a manner that I can actually get enjoyment out of it.
Stoffinator
Member
Does anybody know what the new patch fixes?
lem0n
Member
I said that to myself, almost verbatim. I'm just doing the challenges I DO like, modifying cars, running about collecting clusters, and am enjoying the game much more now than I was last week because of it. I just wish some abilities and such weren't locked behind the Gold medals... Oh well.
Also, not to shit up the thread or anything, just being honest, but when a certain car-stealing simulation comes out in about 2 weeks time, nothing in the SR universe will matter to me.
So might as well wring the most fun out of this while I still can!
Miles Quaritch
Member
You could always complete the main campaign, drop the difficulty down to casual and do the activities for an easy gold.
ambar_hitman
Member
The Lamonster
Member
Can't wait for GAT V on the same day as GTA V :lol
NotTheGuyYouKill
Member
I am now convinced that playing as Nolan North is the only way to play and this is the best video game comedy ever. Fucking NyteBlade. LOL.
Finished it a few days ago. I gotta say while the overall package was probably stronger than SR3, the main story was weaker and a lot shorter even with the BS activity missions in 3. However that's not to say there weren't any BS missions in 4, in fact most of the game was full of filler garbage yet again. Every side quest in the game was just doing the same shit I had already done a bunch of times, whether it was activities, hacking stores or doing those red activities on the map (usually steal a car, assassinate a target or do a gang stronghold zin army hangout). Most main story missions and loyalty missions were just go here and kill a ton of bullet spongey guys, but the sole difference between them and the side missions was Volition bothered to add some humor to them. Volition really needs to learn how to design fun missions to PLAY as this has been a problem with the entire series. Humor is great but when you rely on humor alone to add spice to your missions then you're still left with a boring chore of a game. I'm assigning Volition homework before they start making SR5: Everyone there needs to sit down and play San Andreas and learn how to make fun and diverse missions to actually play.
As for the superpowers I have to say that while this game is technically the first decent Crackdown game (which just shows how negatively I vew the Crackdown series), it still ran into the same problem those games did. After the first few hours super speed, super jump and all that stuff loses its allure and it becomes boring and a pain in the ass to keep doing it for 15-20 hours. The other powers were decent at first too but quickly run out of steam when you upgrade your character to basically be invincible with infinite ammo on every gun and practically infinite health. But like I said that's a problem with games that are designed to be power fantasies, it's like playing a GTA game with a ton of cheat codes on. It's fun to dick around for a while but eventually you want an actual game with some challenge to it. The game was obviously just an expansion pack at one point and superpowers feel like a gimmicky solution to hide the problem of the game's cheapness with re-using the same city and not even adding a day/night cycle.
I don't want to be 100% negative since there were some good parts to the game, mostly the humor and great voice acting from most of the cast. I went with the default character (Troy Baker) and thought he did another fantastic job. Volition also did a great job with many of the references in the game, from ripping on MGS and the stealth genre's traditionally silly enemy AI and rules to a slew of Mass Effect references (took me a while to even notice the big alien ships looked like Reapers). Humor has probably been the sole aspect that has evolved and improved over time with this series. I keep hoping this series will take the next step forward but it always seems stuck in a sub-par state. This time I'm not sure how much THQ's breakdown affected it but honestly I'm not keen on giving them an excuse when 3 was an even worse game that was even lighter on content and customization. Volition just seems like that young athlete that everyone looks at and says he has the talent to be a superstar but for whatever reason never ends up making that leap and 15 years later you're looking back at his career wondering where it all went wrong.
tl;dr- I have to give the game a 3.5/10. Slightly better than what I would give SR3 but still incredibly below average and disappointing. 90% of the fun in the game is extremely front-loaded in the first 3-5 hours and then everything after that breaks down into repetitive busywork, just like SR3.
As for the superpowers I have to say that while this game is technically the first decent Crackdown game (which just shows how negatively I vew the Crackdown series), it still ran into the same problem those games did. After the first few hours super speed, super jump and all that stuff loses its allure and it becomes boring and a pain in the ass to keep doing it for 15-20 hours. The other powers were decent at first too but quickly run out of steam when you upgrade your character to basically be invincible with infinite ammo on every gun and practically infinite health. But like I said that's a problem with games that are designed to be power fantasies, it's like playing a GTA game with a ton of cheat codes on. It's fun to dick around for a while but eventually you want an actual game with some challenge to it. The game was obviously just an expansion pack at one point and superpowers feel like a gimmicky solution to hide the problem of the game's cheapness with re-using the same city and not even adding a day/night cycle.
I don't want to be 100% negative since there were some good parts to the game, mostly the humor and great voice acting from most of the cast. I went with the default character (Troy Baker) and thought he did another fantastic job. Volition also did a great job with many of the references in the game, from ripping on MGS and the stealth genre's traditionally silly enemy AI and rules to a slew of Mass Effect references (took me a while to even notice the big alien ships looked like Reapers). Humor has probably been the sole aspect that has evolved and improved over time with this series. I keep hoping this series will take the next step forward but it always seems stuck in a sub-par state. This time I'm not sure how much THQ's breakdown affected it but honestly I'm not keen on giving them an excuse when 3 was an even worse game that was even lighter on content and customization. Volition just seems like that young athlete that everyone looks at and says he has the talent to be a superstar but for whatever reason never ends up making that leap and 15 years later you're looking back at his career wondering where it all went wrong.
tl;dr- I have to give the game a 3.5/10. Slightly better than what I would give SR3 but still incredibly below average and disappointing. 90% of the fun in the game is extremely front-loaded in the first 3-5 hours and then everything after that breaks down into repetitive busywork, just like SR3.
XiaNaphryz
LATIN, MATRIPEDICABUS, DO YOU SPEAK IT
They likely had just as much effective development time on 3 as they did with 4 as they pretty much restarted development of 3 from scratch at some point.
NotTheGuyYouKill
Member
You should replay it as Nolan North and skip the side missions. Awesome video game comedy.
flaxknuckles
Member
I beat the game on Sunday, and while the main missions were pretty fun (though a bit lacking in gameplay variety as Derrick01 pointed out (and none of them were as good as Decker's Die)), Steelport is still an incredibly boring POS. All they did was add a bunch of identical alien towers over the city, make alien lamp posts, and put an annoying glitching effect over everything (which can thankfully be turned off with cheats). The pedestrian models have a lot more variety but they still don't display nearly as many behaviors as they did in SR2. I feel even less of an urge to return to this city than I did with SR3.
The activities feel lazy as heck. Like, why did they feel the need to make 5 versions of the worst activity in the franchise (Mayhem)? Speed Rift is just Temple Run, Mind over Mayhem must've been made in like 5 minutes, and pretty much every other activity minus Fight Club is lackluster. Insurance Fraud is the same as all the other games except now you can bounce all over the city. And they still haven't added leaderboards.
I shouldn't have bought this on PS3. It runs like donkey balls.
All in all, I'm disappointed. People tried to convince me that this was a full game and it is, but most of the content they boasted so much about is just needless padding and uninspired. It's great fun as a linear experience, but terrible at being a sandbox game.
The activities feel lazy as heck. Like, why did they feel the need to make 5 versions of the worst activity in the franchise (Mayhem)? Speed Rift is just Temple Run, Mind over Mayhem must've been made in like 5 minutes, and pretty much every other activity minus Fight Club is lackluster. Insurance Fraud is the same as all the other games except now you can bounce all over the city. And they still haven't added leaderboards.
I shouldn't have bought this on PS3. It runs like donkey balls.
All in all, I'm disappointed. People tried to convince me that this was a full game and it is, but most of the content they boasted so much about is just needless padding and uninspired. It's great fun as a linear experience, but terrible at being a sandbox game.
I already uninstalled it though. There's no real motivation to go through all those repetitive elements again just to hear Nolan, as awesome as he is.
There's this song I really like that I think is on K12, but I went through all the K12 sounds on the soundtrack list and didn't find it. It's the one that goes "d-d-d-d-d-d-d-d-drop the bass". I understand that this probably describes a lot of dubstep songs, but I think this is the only one on the Saints Row IV soundtrack that does it (other than the pop star dubstep gun). Anyone know the name of the song I'm talking about?
Did they announce what that DLC would be yet?
RobotMafia
Banned
I loved it in 2 & 3. In 4 it is so easy its just kinda boring.
Edit: Probably %75 done with 4 and as much as I like it (and I do) I think The Third is still more fun, even without the crazy superpowers. However, I am so so happy such a ridiculous game exists.
nephilimdj
Member
Bought a dubstep gun on eBay, sadly wasn't released in Aussie land
guitarhero
Member
Play on Casual. It makes getting Golds easier.
adamsapple
Or is it just one of Phil's balls in my throat?
oh lord, saints row fan community is gold !