Scalebound cancelled [Platinum Games and Kamiya have commented]
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ByWatterson
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Without knowing more, it really feels like Microsoft's game development division is on the precipice of a complete dive. MGStudios is not delivering the kind of variety and consistency needed to compete in a global market with diverse tastes.
When PS3 stumbled on NA, Sony could lean on its global Playstation brand. Microsoft can't do the same, and needing a home run in solely one region each generation seems like a losing proposition.
I'm guessing it's high drama in some quarters of Xbox division right now.
When PS3 stumbled on NA, Sony could lean on its global Playstation brand. Microsoft can't do the same, and needing a home run in solely one region each generation seems like a losing proposition.
I'm guessing it's high drama in some quarters of Xbox division right now.
McWhertor is from Polygon and and was at Kotaku for years.
Would not be shocked if in the near future we get articles about exactly what happened. I'd bet my dollar Jason is probably on it along with others.
TheWorthyEdge
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Or can Sony Kojima it?
outunderthestars
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Honest question: how do you know what the budgets were for the games?
Labolas
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Yeah, I feel the same way. He's way too talented to have been wasted on a game that wasn't even coming out.
Relaxed Muscle
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Yeah, someone turn on the "Press sneak fuck" signal.
Saying they made some bad games is not shitting of Platinum.
McWhertor is from Polygon and and was at Kotaku for years.
Isn't that idiotic from a business perspective and downright horrible as well but burning bridges is completely stupid on Microsoft's part if they have been horrible unless they really don't give a damn about being in the game business beyond dipping their Halo, Minecraft toes in the pool.
DriftingSpirit
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Not with MS owning the IP.
McWhertor is from Polygon and and was at Kotaku for years.
Paging Mr Press Sneak Fuck
kruis
Exposing the sinister cartel of retailers who allow companies to pay for advertising space.
McWhertor is from Polygon and and was at Kotaku for years.
I bet we'll hear more soon. There's a juicy story here.
No worries, all that money is getting funneled right into some more Halo, Gears and Forza. Enjoy!
it always sucks to see a game outright cancelled. I was interested despite not being as high on Kamiya as many here are (great games but not always for my short attention span) and it definately was unique which is always great. It looked rough but it still sucks to see it go.
V
Vilix
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From what I've seen of the gameplay I hope not.
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There's rarely a "bad guy" to pin the blame on in these situations; because ultimately when a project gets canned late on like this, everyone involved takes a hit. Noones happy.
The bottom line though is that if the IP holder had real faith in the project, it would continue.
If its finished, its because the publisher unilaterally terminated the partnership, blaming the developer is laughable when they had Hobson's choice in the matter!
Milestones are always a matter of trust because whatever's contracted is never going to be described in such forensic detail that the publisher can't turn round and say, "Nope, we're not signing off on that" if it suits them.
Its just the nature of the beast, and if the publisher decides they want to call time on a project failing milestones is just a standard precursor.
I just want Ridley as one of the dragons.... Or Volvagia
outunderthestars
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McWhertor is from Polygon and and was at Kotaku for years.
god damn.....
SomedayTheFire
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It's perfectly within reason to say they've had some stinkers, which is all that was said.
It was probably cancelled internally and then negotiated before a public release which is where it differs from this situation. Sony probably didn't invest a third of what Microsoft did into Rime, so comparatively Tequila Works probably had a lot more room to negotiate.
Triggerhappytel
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Yeah, those games are obviously churned out quickly and on a low budget, so it's no surprise they're not up to snuff with other Platinum software. I really don't think it's fair to judge the studio on this when they're obviously just doing it for the money to help pay the bills.
DangerMouse
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Yup, I actually kind of liked the Korra game, like I said in the Turtles game (getting removed) thread, even if it could have clearly been better if given more time to further flesh out.
It's worthless to them though, I feel they'd pass it off or sell it cheap if they get an offer.
IP owned by MS, apparently.
CassidyIzABeast
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This right here.
DriftingSpirit
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Oh dear.
McWhertor is from Polygon and and was at Kotaku for years.
McWhertor is from Polygon and and was at Kotaku for years.
Looking forward to MS getting exposed once again in a full editorial. Scum company as per usual.
Glass Rebel
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If MS fucked over Platinum I swear to god...
Unreal Champ
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I know quite a few developers who won't work with MS. The one I'm currently with got offers from them but they turned them down because of news through the grapevine. They just didn't want to take the chance.
outunderthestars
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Again, honest question: how do you know the length or budget of those productions?
bobbychalkers
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Microsoft owns the IP, their money would be better spent on making Bayonetta 3 a thing or leveraging one of their own IPs
Saying that "if platinum closed down, would anything of value really be lost" however, is.
Alright, you aren't listening, so never mind.
Yeah, that game clearly was rushed because of the license. It has cool ideas
DriftingSpirit
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I don't think selling of IP is common like that. Especially in this circumstance with the stigma attached to the IP now.
Nintendo is much better off with Bayonetta anyway.
I don't personally know the numbers, but it seems pretty obvious that a short download-only game that received almost no marketing would have a lower budget than a full priced game with way better graphics that's more than twice as long and has a ton more content.
TheWorthyEdge
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That old be sick. I also kinda wanna see Kratos scale flying dragons in an RPG. But hey...we're getting Kratos fighting a fucking ginormous SNAKE. Still...Kratos->Scalebound would be awesome lol
Outrun
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Until you and I have the facts, it is probably best to stop the name-calling, corporation or not.
And if the game comes out and is terrible (which most here considered it to look during the last presentation), would people feel ripped off and want their money back?
There's no right way to purposefully sell a shitty product. You either suck it up and take the cash, or you don't sell it. Nobody knows the quality of the game but we certainly had some opinions here.
stan423321
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We don't exactly know what was going on there but it looks like game design came from Nintendo in case of all of the project and Platinum provided the "boring" parts such as models, textures and code. As for "what if" in case of that particular game, it exists precisely as a thing that it was supposed to be, an experiment in usage of GamePad after people complaining rightfully that it's not a good peripheral after all, while everyone else was quietly moving onto Switch presumably. If it was something else then it would be something else.
Relaxed Muscle
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I wouldn't call Korra a bad game, mediocre? Sure, but it was still a competent action game.
McWhertor is from Polygon and and was at Kotaku for years.
Yep. It's really sounding like Phantom Dust all over again.
Exactly what I feared might happen, but wanted to hope for the best.
I kinda just want Bayonetta to be a Nintendo thing now. I want her in more costumes lol
The Antitype
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You make that sound like a bad thing?
Three consistently great franchises.
I'd take a new Halo sight unseen over what was shown of Scalebound...
Japanese Devs probably?
I mean, This is the second Japanese game MS funded and canceled, right?
Pretty much soured Level-5, and they haven't made an Xbox game since then. Platinum situation might put more Japanese Devs weary of signing a contract with MS.
What you gonna do catch a fade?
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