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Scientists claim to have found Atlantis

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Mekere

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Wii said:
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It was my favourite place to dive in Endless Ocean. The real one doesn't have any underwater rooms though.
 

Veidt

Blasphemer who refuses to accept bagged milk as his personal savior
Atlantis is African.

That's the real news here.
 
nyong said:
It's quite possible that Atlantis really exists. An archaeologist found the location of the previously-thought-to-be-mythical Troy with nothing more than The Odyssey and The Iliad as a reference.

It's ignorant to compare Troy to Atlantis. The Trojan war was considered factual by virtually everyone in ancient Greece and was the subject of numerous myths and legends. Knossos also appears in these same traditions. Atlantis on the other hand appears only as an allegory in two philosophical works by Plato written in 360 BC. It does not appear in any histories or Greek mythology. There is no evidence of any person knowing of Atlantis from any source independent of Plato, and there were only a handful of ancients that even ever believed it was historical.

Of course, this lack of proof doesn't prove Plato's story wasn't based on history. But if you want to believe that the story of Atlantis was an oral tradition that simply wasn't written down anywhere else, why do you think that the eruption on Santorini wasn't the source?

Guardian Bob said:
And you could say places like Pompeii was mythical to the romans until we found proof.
No.
Pompeii was a Roman city, not a Roman myth. Pliny the Younger watched the eruption and wrote about it. His uncle Pliny the Elder, a well known person of the time, died while attempting to rescue one of his friends from it. Pompeii and its destruction are as historically attested as any event from the first century AD can be.
 

Goldrusher

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Cadiz = Spain

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Don't be confused by the image in the OP, which shouldn't have been posted. Or not without the description.

"Grab from internet mapping tool Google Earth of an underwater grid site off the coast of west Africa that was initially thought to be the lost city of Atlantis."
 
Goldrusher said:
Cadiz = Spain

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Don't be confused by the image in the OP, which shouldn't have been posted. Or not without the description.

"Grab from internet mapping tool Google Earth of an underwater grid site off the coast of west Africa that was initially thought to be the lost city of Atlantis."
yeah, the OP image is not 60 miles :D
 

Slime

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When I was younger and mythology obsessed I looked at maps and pinpointed pretty much that exact area as where it would probably be. Weird.*

I'm still skeptical but it would be neat. We didn't expect there to be an historical basis for the labyrinth either.

Edit: *Nevermind, I thought this was referring to the Daily Mail image of the location in the Atlantic, but apparently this was referring to something else. That's what I get for posting immediately after waking up at 5am...
 

BitchTits

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They always think they've found Atlantis.

Wake me up when they've discovered the pyramids with energy beams bursting from the capstones, isn't that how it goes?
 
opticalmace said:
Uh, misleading title--it says they have found 'memorial cities' in Atlantis' image; they are still only speculating about Atlantis itself.
It says they found memorial cities in central Spain, but that was about helping solidify the identity of what was found along the southern coast.
Guardian Bob said:
http://nationalpostnews.files.wordpress.com/2011/03/0313atlantis.jpg?w=620
SumPog said:
What is there to that picture? A strangely conveyed sea floor is all i can see.
I think it's an Atlantean version of a diagram of the male reproductive system.
 
Suairyu said:
Nobody took the idea of Atlantis seriously back in classical antiquity, why does anyone now?

Ignatius Donnelly and the Theosophists. It's remarkable just how many of that group's ideas remain in the popular consciousness despite the group itself having vanished from it.
 

Slime

Banned
I still think Atlantis is most likely just an allegory, but we've been wrong about this stuff before, and honestly it's just kind of fun to speculate about.
 
leroy hacker said:
Ignatius Donnelly and the Theosophists. It's remarkable just how many of that group's ideas remain in the popular consciousness despite the group itself having vanished from it.

Well their first album was awesome.
 

louis89

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Funny how there's only one reference from one guy in history to this supreme and highly advanced naval power which dominated parts of Europe.
 

jett

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No one else watched this?

spoiler: their "evidence" in inconclusive. They even suspiciously "find" some supposed atlantean figurines just lying around on the ground. :lol When their search proves unfruitful the show goes off on a tangent about connecting another ancient city(Cancho Roano) to their idea of where and what Atlantis is.

This thing is nothing but conjectures and crackpot theories.

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The spanish scientists that appear on the documentary dismiss it entirely, lol.

The film's claims however were on Monday dismissed as having no reliable basis in scientific fact and of misinterpreting partial results by an investigation by a team of distinguished Spanish scientists.

Juan Villarías-Robles, an anthropologist with the Spanish government's scientific research body, CSIC, says Professor Freund appeared sensationalised their work.

"He left and the film company told us the documentary would be finished in April or May. But we did not hear from him and are very surprised it has appeared so soon and makes such fanciful claims."


Mr Villarías-Robles, who also dismissed claims of the "memorial cities", said his team planned to offer their own conclusions later this year

National Geographic FAIL.
 
jett said:
No one else watched this?

spoiler: their "evidence" in inconclusive. They even suspiciously "find" some supposed atlantean figurines just lying around on the ground. :lol When their search proves unfruitful the show goes off on a tangent about connecting another ancient city(Cancho Roano) to their idea of where and what Atlantis is.

This thing is nothing but conjectures and crackpot theories.

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The spanish scientists that appear on the documentary dismiss it entirely, lol.









National Geographic FAIL.
Assy
 

Amir0x

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oh great, OHHH fucking great, here we go, you motherfuckers had to go and pretend to find this shit. Now we're gonna have to endure like 18 months of "ATLANTIS: SEEDS PLANTED BY ALIENS?" "THE ATLANTIS-NAZI CONNECTION: IN SEARCH OF THE ARYAN RACE" and "LOST ATLANTIS TREASURES: TEN CLUES YOU MIGHT HAVE MISSED IN PLATO'S WRITINGS THAT PROVE A LOST TREASURE MAY EXIST IN YOUR BACKYARD" on the History Channel
 
Amir0x said:
oh great, OHHH fucking great, here we go, you motherfuckers had to go and pretend to find this shit. Now we're gonna have to endure like 18 months of "ATLANTIS: SEEDS PLANTED BY ALIENS?" "THE ATLANTIS-NAZI CONNECTION: IN SEARCH OF THE ARYAN RACE" and "LOST ATLANTIS TREASURES: TEN CLUES YOU MIGHT HAVE MISSED IN PLATO'S WRITINGS THAT PROVE A LOST TREASURE MAY EXIST IN YOUR BACKYARD" on the History Channel

I'll take that over American Pickers and Pawn Stars every hour of the day.
 

Amir0x

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Pickles the Firecat said:
I'll take that over American Pickers and Pawn Stars every hour of the day.

no i'd rather take those because ATLANTIS DOESN'T EXIST but at least those people in the show sorta exist, in some parallel universe at the very least
 

HeySeuss

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Amir0x said:
no i'd rather take those because ATLANTIS DOESN'T EXIST but at least those people in the show sorta exist, in some parallel universe at the very least
Troy was a myth until they found it, as was Jericho. I think it existed at one time, but not as the advanced futuristic civilization that the conspiracy theorists claim.
 
Shick Brithouse said:
Troy was a myth until they found it, as was Jericho. I think it existed at one time, but not as the advanced futuristic civilization that the conspiracy theorists claim.
Of course Atlantis existed. Haven't you people played Chrono Trigger? Come on now.

Yes, the real answer is Santorini/Thera.
 

HeySeuss

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Wii said:
Yep and Dwarka
Isn't the structure you posted somewhere off the coast of Japan? It's amazing that it predates the pyramids by about 7,000 years.

As far as Dwarka goes, I heard some of the relics they found date back almost 25k years, predating what archaeologists believe when modern man had the capability to build such things.

Really interesting stuff.
 

RobertM

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Amir0x said:
no i'd rather take those because ATLANTIS DOESN'T EXIST but at least those people in the show sorta exist, in some parallel universe at the very least
Pffft says you. I say it existed and was erased from this planet for a good reason. Give man too much power and he will destroy himself.
 

IGotBillySoSpooked

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Pickles the Firecat said:
I'll take that over American Pickers and Pawn Stars every hour of the day.

I'd much rather watch Pawn Stars and American Pickers. They at least present some factual information.

I spent two hours of my life watching some sensationalized show about the Kensington Runestone and other garbage that supposedly proved the presence of the Knights Templar and possibly the Holy Grail in North America. Fifteen minutes after the show ended I read that absolutely no respected scholar believes that the Kensington Runestone is real. It is real only in the minds of the History Channel and the quacks they hired to appear on their show.
 

nyong

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leroy hacker said:
It's ignorant to compare Troy to Atlantis. The Trojan war was considered factual by virtually everyone in ancient Greece and was the subject of numerous myths and legends.
Troy was believed to be a myth by virtually everyone in the historical community. Before its discovery, the notion of using fictional literature as an archaeological guide was unthinkable. I agree that the case for Troy was stronger, but I would also argue that it's perfectly comparable to Atlantis, albeit probably not the grand Atlantis in our collective imaginations.
 

UltimaKilo

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Wii said:
What happened 12,000 years ago must've been spectacular to witness

Watching men, women and children die by the thousands would have been spectacular to witness? You need your head examined.
 

styl3s

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IGotBillySoSpooked said:
I'd much rather watch Pawn Stars and American Pickers. They at least present some factual information.

I spent two hours of my life watching some sensationalized show about the Kensington Runestone and other garbage that supposedly proved the presence of the Knights Templar and possibly the Holy Grail in North America. Fifteen minutes after the show ended I read that absolutely no respected scholar believes that the Kensington Runestone is real. It is real only in the minds of the History Channel and the quacks they hired to appear on their show.
I tried watching pawn stars but everyone in that show annoys me, most if not all of the people that come in feel fake and scripted and the guy lowballs like a mother fucker

hitlers clone? praised at 9 billion? ill give you 50 dollars, atleast with american pickers you see alot of cool old stuff, granted they do some lowballing themselves but pawn stars? show just seems incredibly scripted.
 

IGotBillySoSpooked

Low moral character
styl3s said:
I tried watching pawn stars but everyone in that show annoys me, most if not all of the people that come in feel fake and scripted and the guy lowballs like a mother fucker

hitlers clone? praised at 9 billion? ill give you 50 dollars, atleast with american pickers you see alot of cool old stuff, granted they do some lowballing themselves but pawn stars? show just seems incredibly scripted.

I saw them taping Pawn Stars the last time I was in Vegas (I'm a fan, as you can tell).

It isn't really scripted in terms of the people wanting to come in and sell their shit. A lot of the items from the TV are for sale in the pawn shop. I saw that bowling ball cannon, the maps of Iwo Jima, a few guns, a few instruments, and a bunch of other items from the show.

What is scripted is the factual information on the items being sold. Rick Harrison (the bald guy) isn't some history genius. He knows a lot about a lot of stuff (mostly watches, Vegas history, coins, and stuff that is pawned/sold regularly), but he and the History Channel crew do a lot of background research into the items that are brought it.
 
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