Danjin44
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PSP game? Are talking about Raidou? That's was PS2 game.
Seems like most third-party developers will not support Switch 2
WhiteWaterM00se
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I agree with you about the dev kits. 100%.
But, every year EA and 2k were not able to announce the annual sports games, even though we assume they were coming. Nintendo always announced them.
GigaBowser
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2025 third party arm crud ahahaha nintendo betters then all combine annnnnnnd i get elden ring dusk blood cyberpunk street fighter hitman yakuza red dead 2 game over
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I agree, I just think it was silly for him to say sales have nothing to do with 3rd party support
But yes, it is more complicated than just sales
GigaBowser
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Nintendo Switch 2's Best-Selling eShop Launch Games Revealed — and Those $10 Zelda: Breath of the Wild and Tears of the Kingdom Upgrades Are Right Up There - IGN
24 hours into Switch 2's life, it's time to look at what's selling best on the new console's eShop — and get a sense of just how popular those $10 Zelda upgrades have been.
- Mario Kart World
- Cyberpunk 2077: Ultimate Edition
- Nintendo Switch 2 Welcome Tour
- Fast Fusion
- The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom - Upgrade Pack
- Deltarune
- The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild - Upgrade Pack
- Fantasy Life i: The Girl Who Steals Time
- Bravely Default Flying Fairy HD Remaster
- Yakuza 0
- Street Fighter 6 Years 1-2 Fighters Edition
- The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom - Switch 2 Edition
- Hitman: World of Assassination
- The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild - Switch 2 Edition
- Hogwarts Legacy
That bodes terrible for Microsoft supporting Switch 2, they can't seemingly even be bothered to port over something they agreed 3 years ago in an agreement to port over. That just makes it clear that after that Cod port they are done with the Switch 2. I think the Xbox handheld means that they don't want to do anything that makes the Switch 2 more attractive at the expense of their Xbox handheld, so no support to Switch 2 will happen beyond a lacklustre CoD port they will only make because Phil Spencer 3 years ago signed a deal with Nintendo that he has regretted ever since.
Did they get Dev kits late or something? Or switch 2 just not priority?
Considering blops 7 is coming out on last gen it should be easily possible on a switch 2.
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fallingdove
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I wonder if that has more to do with marketing deals. I.e — Nintendo, or Sony, or Microsoft have marketing rights to a specific game and therefore EA/2K cant talk about them. I would think that any title shown today with a PS5, Xbox, PC and Steam logo, it should have also had a Switch 2 logo if a Switch 2 version were in development.
''Lack of devkits'' just seems like cope. It reminds me of how we all thought Switch 1 would get strong third party support after the install base got higher and still everyone just continued skipping Switch.
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fallingdove
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Irrefutable evidence right here! More incredible insight from our resident analyst.Nintendo Switch 2's Best-Selling eShop Launch Games Revealed — and Those $10 Zelda: Breath of the Wild and Tears of the Kingdom Upgrades Are Right Up There - IGN
24 hours into Switch 2's life, it's time to look at what's selling best on the new console's eShop — and get a sense of just how popular those $10 Zelda upgrades have been.www.ign.com
- Mario Kart World
- Cyberpunk 2077: Ultimate Edition
- Nintendo Switch 2 Welcome Tour
- Fast Fusion
- The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom - Upgrade Pack
- Deltarune
- The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild - Upgrade Pack
- Fantasy Life i: The Girl Who Steals Time
- Bravely Default Flying Fairy HD Remaster
- Yakuza 0
- Street Fighter 6 Years 1-2 Fighters Edition
- The Legend of Zelda: Tears of the Kingdom - Switch 2 Edition
- Hitman: World of Assassination
- The Legend of Zelda: Breath of the Wild - Switch 2 Edition
- Hogwarts Legacy
Things may not improve on the 3rd party front with the Switch 2 and we may just continue to see last gen ports, EA slop and Call of Duty, but I find it odd that we didn't see many Switch 2 3rd party announcements this week — if only to take advantage of limited completion with a new console launch.
My only explanation is that there weren't many S2 dev kits out there and we will start to see a few more 3rd party S2 announcements trickle in once when they finally start developing for the console.
GoldenEye98
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It really doesn't make sense. The hardware was known and locked in YEARS ago. Not only that they managed to produce and stockpile millions of retail units.
The argument that devkits' are slow to reach developers is hard to believe unless Nintendo is just straight up incompetent.
People are looking for excuses. Honestly if it isn't the case that 3rd party announcements are being held back for a Direct in the next couple of months then it's not looking good imo.
GigaBowser
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ahahaha it already has more aaa then switch and switch sell 150 millions
From and Nintendos first party better thens the whole industries combine
Neofire
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Wishful thinking lol
TintoConCasera
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Surprised at the lack of S2 ports announcements during this weekend. I'd bet it's because of a lack of dev-kits, because I had assumed that running an nvidia gpu capable of DLSS would make porting games way easier than before.
All thos platforms have already millions of users each. Don't see any intelligent developers ever ditching those.
Dampf
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A handful at most, and most of these are not relevant.
This console seems to be already dead in the water in terms of third party support and it just released. Crazy.
GigaBowser
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Wouldn't surprise me if third parties will focus much more on Xbox ROG Ally optimization of their games over Switch 2, they just seem to really hate Switch 2.
WhiteWaterM00se
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Yet, they don't.
While I'm not an insider, I would bet a cup of coffee that NS2 gets some big ports this Fall/Holiday. But I think most are older.
I'm not saying these are coming but these types of games make sense. Especially, Xbox One/Ps4 ports or older.
Assassins Creed Mirage, Killer Instinct 2016, Age of Empires, Goldeneye Remastered, Red dead 2, Elden Ring, Battletoads, Sunset Overdrive, Sea of thieves, COD MW2, Sandland, Dragon Ball.
Those types of games seem likely to me for 2025 on NS2
GigaBowser
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shadows already rate they are delumisal ahaha nintendos annonce direct
WhiteWaterM00se
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Rating and announcing are different though. You understand that right?shadows already rate they are delumisal ahaha nintendos annonce direct
OuterLimits
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Switch 2 will get significant 3rd party support from Japanese companies. It will get less but still decent Western 3rd party support. It will get massive indie support. Those arguing it will get terrible 3rd party support are just doing console war nonsense.
I think they all have Switch 2 dev kits but threw them in the trash once they got the PS5 Portable dev kit, so now they are focusing on that. Nintendo will not get 3rd party games next year at all, that's it, the well has dried. Even if they sell 200m they will not get 3rd party games ever, it's done, they are doomed. Again.
Also clear the Xbox ROG Ally will sell twice as much as much if not 3 times as much or maybe 4 even as Switch 2, and Nintendo will eventually port all their games to it as well.
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Switch 1 didn't have great third party support despite its glowing sales so I have no reason to expect this go around to be any different.
OuterLimits
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It had significant 3rd party support. Especially Japanese. However, even Western Support was fairly decent compared to prior Nintendo systems. Switch 2 may actually be better if it is getting COD and EA sports titles.
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It was probably for the best that third party support got exposed this quickly. Now we know that the Switch 2 generation is just a repeat of Switch and everything from Resident Evil, Monster Hunter, Persona will skip it hard the entire generation. I mean Microsoft signed an agreement to port CoD to Switch 2, and even they aren't porting anything to Switch 2.
tkscz
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What do you mean it didn't have great third party support? And third parties went as far as making streaming servers just to put games on it that it couldn't run. It didn't get every third party game but it had quite a large number of support.
How much more in denial can you get? No one is porting anything to Switch 2. We had over 100 game announcements of upcoming games this week. Nothing is coming to Switch 2. Third party support for Switch 2 will be much worse than the third party support Switch got, which was already incredibly mediocre.
tkscz
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Firstly, I'm talking about the switch 1. Sega, Capcom, Square, Microsoft, Ubisoft, WB, 2K, even EA made games on the Switch. The Switch 2 just came out and the games announced at SGF were in the works for years, I didn't expect any company to suddenly spend money and time on putting a team on porting their games over to the switch 2. Switch 1 didn't get a lot of third party announcements in it's first year, that came later. I didn't expect to start seeing more AAA announcements until some time next year.
Gambit2483
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I guess people here have very short memories...
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3rd party floodgates will open up later this year and Nintendo wants to be in control of doing the major announcements. Look forward to a June/July Direct and later a September/October direct. The system litterally just launched 5 days ago. Give the launch titles room to breathe (i.e. play/sell)
Nintendo Reportedly Has 'Three-Phase' Launch Plan for the Switch 2
According to insider reports, Nintendo is planning a three-phase launch strategy for the Nintendo Switch 2 and its initial game lineup.
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3rd party floodgates will open up later this year and Nintendo wants to be in control of doing the major announcements. Look forward to a June/July Direct and later a September/October direct. The system litterally just launched 5 days ago. Give the launch titles room to breathe (i.e. play/sell)
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I'm conflicted. I really want to get Raidou on Switch 2, but I don't feel comfortable supporting Atlus on Switch 2 if they aren't going to meaningfully support it.
I think if the next Direct doesn't have a P3R or Metaphor announcement, I'm gonna pass on Raidou on Switch 2. Will probably just go PS5.
I think if the next Direct doesn't have a P3R or Metaphor announcement, I'm gonna pass on Raidou on Switch 2. Will probably just go PS5.
From the looks of it, Raidou will be among the few games Atlus will port to Switch 2. So i wouldn't give them any support on Switch 2.
Angry_Megalodon
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Jesus fucking Christ.
awwr999999
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Third party Switch 2 games aren't going to start rolling out until it looks like Switch 2 users are set to outnumber Switch 1 users.
With Switch 1 sales ongoing it could easily be a decade away or never.
BlackTron
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No need to wait for a Direct, GAF posters already figured it out for you.
Baemono
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Cyberpunk is the current second best selling Switch 2 title, Hogwarts Legacy had huge sales on Switch, lots of indie devs said the Switch version is their best selling console version, etc
Woopah
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I get waiting for a bigger userbase, but if third parties are waiting for Switch 2 users to outnumber Switch 1 users then that's waiting far too long.
There's over half a billion third party game sales on Switch, so clearly some people are.
And that's without Rockstar, yearly CoD, yearly Madden, and big Ubisoft games to pad out the third party unit sales.
Third party games selling extremely well despite most "big selling" AAA games skipping the platform is crazy. Makes it annoying Switch 2 owners seem to be getting the good old "test" treatment again.
Woopah
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For third parties there's still the issue of power, which makes porting to Switch 2 difficult.
I imagine companies will bring their games to PC/PS/XB first, then port some of them to Switch 2 later.
TKOFromTokyo
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I buy most of my retro games on Switch.
The funny thing about that is, developers are releasing games on PS5/Xbox that run horribly and have bad blurry image quality and a ton of other issues. I'd much rather prefer a world where games are scoped for Switch 2 and then ported to PS5/Xbox where they look much crisper, have some higher settings, and a rock solid 60fps.
GoldenEye98
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The COD situation is sorta confusing. It's not clear whether Blops 7 is actually coming to Switch 2? I honestly don't see how this gets easier as they move on from the PS4/Xbox One.
But how do those sales compare to other platform? I'm betting at least 80% of total sales comes from other platforms.
I'm gonna pretend 500million is a lot lol, especially vs the billions of 1st party sales.
Baemono
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No they're not, that's my point, Hogwarts Legacy was a huge success on the Switch, several reports confirm that. Even on launch week
it's not 1 billion first party sales, it's overall sales for every title on the Switch
blacktout
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This isn't how publishers think. Console warriors care about sales relative to other platforms; publishers care about whether it's profitable to port a game to a certain platform. And profitability is about weighing the costs of development against expected sales. The Witcher 3 sold substantially more on PS4 and PC than Switch over its lifetime, but the Switch port was still profitable enough for CDPR to want to port Cyberpunk to the Switch 2 at launch.
Also, if I remember correctly, Hogwarts Legacy did very well on the Switch, and wasn't lagging dramatically behind versions of the game on other platforms.
During their last investor briefing, Nintendo reported 1.39 billion units of software sold, and that includes third parties. There aren't "billions of first party sales."
So, yes, 500 million is a lot.
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