Seems like with Japanese third party developers it’s a wrap for full console exclusives.
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Kataploom
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They're too used to develop for a single platform, the most popular one at the moment, I guess that's why many of them do so even up to these days Switch started getting many third party exclusives and not because hit money hating, that's just like Japanese devs work I guess
It is no longer financially viable to develop for just one platform and limit your total addressable market, especially with how expensive games are to develop now
I imagine Nintendo will find it easy to get some timed or partial exclusivity for smaller Japanese titles, but other than that, yeah, the era of third party exclusives from Japanese publishers is probably at an end.
I imagine Nintendo will find it easy to get some timed or partial exclusivity for smaller Japanese titles, but other than that, yeah, the era of third party exclusives from Japanese publishers is probably at an end.
Magic Carpet
Gold Member
I just downloaded the T-Pose game on PC Gamepass last night. Normally this type of game would have been exclusive on Playstation for a long time, then get a rerelease years later on Xbox and NEVER come to PC.
TintoConCasera
I bought a sex doll, but I keep it inflated 100% of the time and use it like a regular wife
Yeah things have gotten much better for everyone when it comes to this, specially for PC bros.
Seeing Atlus releasing their games day 1 was unthinkable just a few years ago.
Seeing Atlus releasing their games day 1 was unthinkable just a few years ago.
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And Sega. And Namco Bandai.
Hyet
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Nintendo is paying for it's development, so I'd say it has about the same chances as the Bayonetta titles.
FromSoft owns the IP and is self publishing in Japan. There is a very reasonable chance it comes at least to PC, based on how similar past Nintendo deals have gone.
Ar¢tos
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It's probably timed.
Miyazaki said before he doesn't want to exclude platforms anymore and with Sony buying more shares of Kadokawa and From it would be weird.
I assume it will release for the other platforms after a few months, and that Is probably a good thing since online games need an active playerbase to exist.
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Unknown?
Member
Even if it's timed, it negates the whole premise of this thread. They are still doing exclusives, even if they're timed. Death Stranding 2 is also timed exclusive.
Hyet
Member
Where did you got From owns the IP? Also, what similar deals?
Death Stranding 2 is the residue of a deal made over a decade ago, it is hardly a counterpoint
DonkeyPunchJr
World’s Biggest Weeb
Sony isn't going to pay for full exclusivity. Not even their own first party games are exclusive to PlayStation. Timed exclusivity maybe.
Unknown?
Member
Perhaps but as stated before, I don't buy this as platforms will still hire out for exclusives timed or not.
The copyright notice only credits From in the Japanese videos. Nintendo is only credited in the western videos, where they are only listed as the publisher. In the Japanese listing, Nintendo has no attribution at all.
Nintendo made similar deals in the past, largely with Square (Octopath Traveler, Triangle Strategy, Bravely Default) and Capcom (Monster Hunter Rise, Monster Hunter Stories). Those were all third party titles that the third party self-published in Japan, but Nintendo published and distributed globally. They were all initially Switch exclusive (or at least Switch console exclusive) before eventually coming to PC a year later (and then going everywhere else eventually). The Duskbloods deal seems most similar to those ones.
Hyet
Member
I'm not sure this means From owns the IP.
Regardless, Nintendo contracted them to make the game and they own that even if they didn't own the IP (as happens with the bayo games).
Nintendo didn't fund these, it was a distribution deal.
I'd say It's more similiar to Astral Chain, Bayonetta, Marvel Ultimate Alliance 3. Games Nintendo not only distribute but contracted the developers to produce.
Even Platinum Games had to retrieve rights from Nintendo when they decided to re-release the Wonderful 101 just by themselves. Because Nintendo owned the product.
Fromsoftware owns the IP though. I'm sure they did this so a bloodbourne situation where Sony owned it doesn't occur.
I think we will need to see what kind of deal this is closer to, because the Platinum games are definitely a good point I didn't consider. I don't think Nintendo will have paid enough to keep it exclusive forever, but who knows! But you definitely raised some good points for sure
Gaiff
SBI’s Resident Gaslighter
It's nonsense. He's salty about every game coming to PC besides Nintendo ones.
Kotaro
Member
Duskbloods is not timed
Little Chicken
Member
Nintendo are funding development specifically to highlight the Switch 2's new online capabilities.
March Climber
Member
I'm pretty sure he is implying that he wants things to flip in the other direction to PC-only (or Steam only) exclusives.
A pipe dream that requires Nintendo and Sony to be fully irrelevant in gaming.
DonkeyPunchJr
World’s Biggest Weeb
The days of consoles using some custom exotic hardware with unique capabilities are over. Nowadays they're all just using PC/mobile SOCs, and using cross platform tools/game engines that scale all the way from smartphones to high end PCs.
There is literally zero reason for a game to go console exclusive unless the platform owner is paying for it.
There is literally zero reason for a game to go console exclusive unless the platform owner is paying for it.
You think this will entail console third party exclusives with a.i?
Clear
CliffyB's Cock Holster
Disagree. Ideally games should be tailored to the capabilities of their target platform.
The problem we have now is that with so many titles using middleware solutions that rarely happens. Its basically one-size-fits-all with minimal adjustments made for any platform.
Tiago Rodrigues
Member
Sony just released Rise of the Ronin and FFVII Rebirth last year. You can't play those anywhere else (console wise). Death Stranding 2 will be console exclusive to PS5 this year. Kojima is working on another Playstation title as we speak. Nintendo will have those as well.
I'm not sure where you got that information.
I'm not sure where you got that information.
Rise of the Robin and Rebirth are both on PC. What I meant by full console exclusive is never showing up on PC or other platforms and third party.
Yup, I used to love consoles because of the level of optimization for their hardware you could get with games. Shit like MGS3, RE4, God of War 2… we don't get that these days where everything is made for uniform hardware using uniform dev tools. The last example of this I remember is Tears of the Kingdom which seemed to push the Switch beyond anything I'd considered possible before, and that was than 2 years ago (and for an 8 year console).
I wish at least Sony would develop their games around their hardware too, but with them going PC more and more, it seems unlikely.
BennyBlanco
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Update (credit to Oneida):
+ Valkyria Chronicles
This effort spawned out of the original twitter campaign, that effort can be seen here.
The petition is here (if you don't want to use your address just put in garbage).
It's targeting games that are a perceived lower risk, the initial suggestions are: Vanquish, Bayonetta and Virtua Fighter 5. Valkyria Chronicles is singled out as a special mention. Please note that even if you disagree with the initial suggestions, a massive part of this effort is about...
+ Valkyria Chronicles
This effort spawned out of the original twitter campaign, that effort can be seen here.
The petition is here (if you don't want to use your address just put in garbage).
It's targeting games that are a perceived lower risk, the initial suggestions are: Vanquish, Bayonetta and Virtua Fighter 5. Valkyria Chronicles is singled out as a special mention. Please note that even if you disagree with the initial suggestions, a massive part of this effort is about...
How far we've come from this.
Parazels
Member
I think it can shake up the entire market and lead to consequences that we can't predict now.
Gaiff
SBI’s Resident Gaslighter
No, he wants them to stop porting games to PC.
Tiago Rodrigues
Member
FF VII Rebirth wasn't released on PC when it first relased. Same for Rise of the Ronin. And Death Stranding 2 next.
What do you mean by "full console exclusive"? All PS consoles exclusives from PS1 and PS2 days are everywhere like GTA, Devil May Cry, older FF titles, Resident Evil games etc. There isn't such a thing as "full console exclusive" as an eternal thing. They will always end up everywhere once these deals expire.
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March Climber
Member
Ah, so he meant 'they' as in the console manufacturers. For some reason that sits better with me than a PC bro being hypocritical lol.
bitbydeath
Member
Bigger devs are coming over more but indies usually just pick one console be it PlayStation or Nintendo and often don't even release outside of Japan.
Fbh
Member
I think timed exclusives will become increasingly rare. Seems like the benefit of a full multi platform launch is exceeding whatever Sony and Nintendo are willing to pay for the timed exclusivity.
But I think we'll continue seeing exclusives were a Japanese developer works as a "second party" (as in the game is actually funded and published by Sony/Nintendo, but it's developed by an external studio)
But I think we'll continue seeing exclusives were a Japanese developer works as a "second party" (as in the game is actually funded and published by Sony/Nintendo, but it's developed by an external studio)
Bayonetta's are third party still on switch and not PS or PC. Demon Souls Remake is still on PS5 and not on PC. There's still a few but dwindled.
Isn't a third party exclusive game releasing in a few weeks or so? Probably timed too but still this has been the case for a long time, no?
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Which one...?