Sega teases new game (Valkyria Chronicles 3??)

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i don't know , but i think the code1935 reference here has nothing to do with the actual story .
it could be a reference of getting back to the VC1 route ( PS3 , art Style , etc ) .
this is the closest possible thing in my guess .
 
Suzuki Yu said:
i don't know , but i think the code1935 reference here has nothing to do with the actual story .
it could be a reference of getting back to the VC1 route ( PS3 , art Style , etc ) .
this is the closest possible thing in my guess .
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I don't know, its hard to over look the fact that 1935 is the year VC1 took place. Maybe its going to Be Valkyria Chronicles: Covert Mission :D
 
BattleMonkey said:
Well you also have to factor in game budget. PSP games cost far far less to make than PS3 games
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PSP games also cost less to purchase so there's less profit per unit sold, no?
 
Segata Sanshiro said:
As pointed out, the PSP is certainly not dead in Japan. It's one of the more active systems, actually. It was a calculated gamble to try to reap enough of an increase off the PSP userbase in Japan to make up for any losses in the west, and at a lower budget. While it did sell better than the original in Japan, it didn't sell much better, so the gamble didn't pay off. Combined with the fact that the handheld generation is ending, I very much doubt this will be on PSP.

And the first game is just as tropey as the second one, just in a different way.
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I could tolerate 1. I dont think I can tolerate 2's tropeyness. I just want large map SRPG combat with a story that doesnt make me dread ending the mission.
 
BattleMonkey said:
The development cost of VC1 versus 2 are obviously going to have VC1 cost far far more. Now talking about moving on with sequels, that's a different thing. I would have no doubt that the idea of moving to PSP was because of how well PSP games do in Japan and like mentioned, it creates a framework for future titles on the PSP.

Moving to PSP made sense. Now whether they take advantage and make more PS3 games using assets they already have is another matter.
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No, staying on PS3 would have made sense. Going to PSP was a gamble, one which didn't pay off, as they basically had to start again from scratch on the PSP when they had an engine and assets (not to mention fanbase) all ready to go on PS3. Also don't forget that PSP games are sold at a considerably lower price than PS3 games.
 
onken said:
No, staying on PS3 would have made sense. Going to PSP was a gamble, one which didn't pay off, as they basically had to start again from scratch on the PSP when they had an engine and assets (not to mention fanbase) all ready to go on PS3. Also don't forget that PSP games are sold at a considerably lower price than PS3 games.
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Considering the curve of VC1's sales, I don't think the sale price was hugely different. Sure, Valkyria first sold for ￥7980, but it certainly didn't do the bulk of its sales at that price, while most of Valkyria 2's sales did come in at the ￥6090 price.

Anyway, without knowing the budgets, it's all just naval-gazing. I very much doubt VC3 will be on PSP, so all the fair weather fans whose love for VC basically goes as far as the PS3 should be satisfied.
 
Suggestions for VC3:

* add more abilities and classes
* BALANCE THEM
* fix the AI
* move away from the anime BS instead of towards it. VC has a great WW2-inspired setting; start using it properly and bring in multiple competing factions (the brief appearance of the NA/Western Europe stand-in in VC1 doesn't count), more moral ambiguity, and less magic stuff. Make the characters less trope-ish.
* make fewer missions scripted and deterministic

If the devs do these things, and VC3 could really take off. If they don't, the series will squander an amazing gameplay engine and slowly fade to a footnote in gaming history.
 
Chairman Yang said:
Suggestions for VC3:

* add more abilities and classes
* BALANCE THEM
* fix the AI
* move away from the anime BS instead of towards it. VC has a great WW2-inspired setting; start using it properly and bring in multiple competing factions (the brief appearance of the NA/Western Europe stand-in in VC1 doesn't count), more moral ambiguity, and less magic stuff. Make the characters less trope-ish.
* make fewer missions scripted and deterministic

If the devs do these things, and VC3 could really take off. If they don't, the series will squander an amazing gameplay engine and slowly fade to a footnote in gaming history.
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Oh I wish. But as evidenced by II, they definitely think the cliches help sell the game.
 
Well, if they're sticking with the time period, it's going to be about the broader Europa Front theater of war, i.e. Federation vs Empire. Gallia was just caught in the middle, so it stands to reason a great deal of the action also took place elsewhere on the continent.

The only thing that has me suspect is the damn teaser site is on film, suggesting maybe this is a movie adaptation of Valkyria Chronicles or something (yes, I know they did the anime...but who knows).

Altaha Abilia was an infantry regiment:
US 291st Regiment-"Altaha Abilia" {Always Ready}

http://www.wartimememories.co.uk/allied/usarmy/291stinfantry.html
http://www.ww2museums.com/article/5697/Plaques-291st-Infantry-Regiment-75th-Infantry-Division.htm
http://www.scribd.com/doc/33449400/History-and-Mission (Page 26)

Yea, start digging into the 95th Infantry Division as well
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/95th_Division_(United_States)
 
TSA said:
Well, if they're sticking with the time period, it's going to be about the broader Europa Front theater of war, i.e. Federation vs Empire. Gallia was just caught in the middle, so it stands to reason a great deal of the action also took place elsewhere on the continent.
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hmmm maybe , i mean this the only logical scenario i could think of
 
TSA said:
Well, if they're sticking with the time period, it's going to be about the broader Europa Front theater of war, i.e. Federation vs Empire. Gallia was just caught in the middle, so it stands to reason a great deal of the action also took place elsewhere on the continent.
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Another location would be nice outside of Gallia. Playing from Federation perspective perhaps?
 
Chairman Yang said:
Suggestions for VC3:

* add more abilities and classes
* BALANCE THEM
* fix the AI
* move away from the anime BS instead of towards it. VC has a great WW2-inspired setting; start using it properly and bring in multiple competing factions (the brief appearance of the NA/Western Europe stand-in in VC1 doesn't count), more moral ambiguity, and less magic stuff. Make the characters less trope-ish.
* make fewer missions scripted and deterministic

If the devs do these things, and VC3 could really take off. If they don't, the series will squander an amazing gameplay engine and slowly fade to a footnote in gaming history.
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Yeah basically this. I'm okay with the Valkyria stuff though since it's sort of the core of the weird alt-history thing, but not so much the ***ANIME SWEATDROP*** sort of thing.
 
Chairman Yang said:
* add more abilities and classes
* BALANCE THEM
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Considering their difficulties with balancing what they already have, I think adding more abilities/classes won't likely help the chances of proper balancing any.
 
zerokoolpsx said:
Another location would be nice outside of Gallia. Playing from Federation perspective perhaps?
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/shrug
except the insignia above the latin phrase is a unicorn
Gallia's insignia was also a unicorn, albeit a unicorn's head from the front vs the side in the teaser...I find it a little difficult to think that Gallia partook in skirmishes outside their borders?
 
Valkyria Chronicles 1 is so criminally underrated, please let this be on PS3 or multiplatform on the HD consoles, it's shallow of me but I miss seeing it in pretty full screen high resolution.
 
.la1n said:
Valkyria Chronicles 1 is so criminally underrated, please let this be on PS3 or multiplatform on the HD consoles, it's shallow of me but I miss seeing it in pretty full screen high resolution.
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Under rated is not the right term, Unoticed would be far better. The people who realize its there love it, most others just don't even notice it.

And under rated game would be Kirby's Air Ride, which is one of the best Multiplayer Racers ever made, but got crappy reviews because most tried to play it as a single player game.
 
Segata Sanshiro said:
I can't imagine the PS3 version, with its pre-existing engine, would suffer from having a 360 port. Maybe the 360 port might not be as good as the PS3 version, but having the game available is better than not, in my opinion.

Also, I don't really see multiplatform games as being a trend of this generation. They've always been around. Exclusives are vanishing, to be sure, but I tend to think that's a positive thing.
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Nein! It must be PS3 exclusive so that it'll be the best possible version! eventhoughimhappywhen360pcgamesgetportedtotheps3noproblem, but still!

In all seriousness, a console version would be ideal. Multiplatform would be awesome, but I'm not expecting such out of Sega.
 
MechaX said:
In all seriousness, a console version would be ideal. Multiplatform would be awesome, but I'm not expecting such out of Sega.
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I thought 3rd party dev's where past the whole exclusive thing?
 
2San said:
I thought 3rd party dev's where past the whole exclusive thing?
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not for SEGA!

just look at Yakuza, that has a huge potential to appeal to a worldwide audience on the 360... but it's still only on the PS3.

Yakuza would be more likely to go multiplatform before Valkyria Chronicles, IMO =P
 
Segata Sanshiro said:
Anyway, without knowing the budgets, it's all just naval-gazing. I very much doubt VC3 will be on PSP, so all the fair weather fans whose love for VC basically goes as far as the PS3 should be satisfied.
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Oh fuck off with that "fair weather fan" shit. Just because people people don't want to buy a completely different system to play the sequel of a game they bought, that doesn't mean they're any less of a fan. Less disposable income, maybe.

e~ as it happens I own a PSP but playing on a tiny screen with an awful analog stick (especially when you're used to the big-screen equivalent) isn't really my idea of fun. Took me weeks before I finally caved and bought Peace Walker and all that left me with was an aching thumb and regret that it wasn't on a real console.
 
Anyone else find it odd that we’d get the announcement for VC3 when VC2 just came out? I get the feeling we’re going to be disappointed.
 
Gouty said:
Anyone else find it odd that we’d get the announcement for VC3 when VC2 just came out? I get the feeling we’re going to be disappointed.
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VC2 came out more then 6 months ago in Japan. If anything, this is really good timing since hearing anther one is on the way can get the 2nd more buzz.
 
Gouty said:
Anyone else find it odd that we’d get the announcement for VC3 when VC2 just came out? I get the feeling we’re going to be disappointed.
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VC2 has been out a while in Japan.
 
It's mind blowing that the game is even getting sequels.


* add more abilities and classes
* BALANCE THEM
* fix the AI
* move away from the anime BS instead of towards it. VC has a great WW2-inspired setting; start using it properly and bring in multiple competing factions (the brief appearance of the NA/Western Europe stand-in in VC1 doesn't count), more moral ambiguity, and less magic stuff. Make the characters less trope-ish.
* make fewer missions scripted and deterministic
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They'd probably do all those things, except for the third one.:/
 
Drkirby said:
VC2 came out more then 6 months ago in Japan. If anything, this is really good timing since hearing anther one is on the way can get the 2nd more buzz.
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and besides of that if it's for console i am sure that they've started the development of the game since they done from VC1 . means both VC2 & VC3 were under development simultaneously .
because simply VC2 doesn't need that much of staff , time and effort as much as any possible console VC game .
 
Lafiel said:
It's mind blowing that the game is even getting sequels.
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Sold about a Million WW and they have the engine sorted. They'd need to market this better in the EU if they want to do better numbers. I think the EU was its weakest region (by a long way).
 
onken said:
Oh fuck off with that "fair weather fan" shit. Just because people people don't want to buy a completely different system to play the sequel of a game they bought, that doesn't mean they're any less of a fan. Less disposable income, maybe.

e~ as it happens I own a PSP but playing on a tiny screen with an awful analog stick (especially when you're used to the big-screen equivalent) isn't really my idea of fun. Took me weeks before I finally caved and bought Peace Walker and all that left me with was an aching thumb and regret that it wasn't on a real console.
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Sorry, but if you're describing the sequel as "horrendous" without even playing it because it's not on PS3, you're more of a fan of the PS3 than you are a fan of VC. If you're asking for the next game to be PS3 "EXCLUSIVE" rather than multiplat, you're more of a fan of the PS3 than of VC. A real fan of the series would follow it wherever it goes, especially if the quality level is maintained, as it was in the PSP game.

If it's a financial issue, that's fine. Not much you can do about it. On a forum where people buy three or four new games a month, I can't imagine it being a frequent issue, but hey, if that's the case, my heart goes out to you because I've certainly been there myself. On the other hand, if you just don't want it to be elsewhere because you have something against non-HD or handhelds or non-PS3-exclusives, then the spade is a spade. I have no sympathy for people whose own biases prevent them from experiences they would enjoy.

Galvanise said:
Sold about a Million WW and they have the engine sorted. They'd need to market this better in the EU if they want to do better numbers. I think the EU was its weakest region (by a long way).
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Unfortunately, it's nowhere close to a million WW. 225k in Japan, 200kish in NA (figure deliberately obscured to avoid wrath), and it sure didn't sell a half-million in EU.

The thing is, games don't need to sell a million copies to get sequels if the budgets are managed correctly. Look at the Etrian Odyssey series. I don't think it's broken 200k worldwide yet. But it will continue to get sequels because it's profitable at the sales level it reaches.
 
Segata Sanshiro said:
Sorry, but if you're describing the sequel as "horrendous" without even playing it because it's not on PS3, you're more of a fan of the PS3 than you are a fan of VC. If you're asking for the next game to be PS3 "EXCLUSIVE" rather than multiplat, you're more of a fan of the PS3 than of VC.
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Totally agree, whoever said that is an idiot, especially the exclusives part, I really hate those.

A real fan of the series would follow it wherever it goes, especially if the quality level is maintained, as it was in the PSP game.
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No that's just stupid. If they released VC3 exclusive to Zune HD would you run out and buy one? Remember, the whole reason they move franchises around platforms is because they want to make more money, think carefully before defending that.

On the other hand, if you just don't want it to be elsewhere because you have something against non-HD or handhelds or non-PS3-exclusives, then the spade is a spade. I have no sympathy for people whose own biases prevent them from experiences they would enjoy.
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You're missing the point. Why do you think people "have it in" for handhelds? It's really not just blind fanboyism (well I dunno, it probably is for some people) but for me at least it's about preference, not bias. I don't really get that much time for gaming these days, so when I do game I want the big screen, the HD graphics, the sound system, the immersive experience. I appreciate that's almost demonized these days (graphics whore!!!) but I really don't give a shit, it's what I like and what I want to spend my time with, not hunched over a tiny screen with awful controls. Don't paint everyone with the same brush.
 
This thread is getting really heated up before they have even announced anything! At this rate, it should be pretty interesting when they do announce details.
 
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