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Sen no Kiseki III Confirmed to be a PS4 exclusive title

Tohsaka

Member
She's great. She also has one of the best dub voice acting bits I've heard for a kuudere. Really brought her to life without changing the character herself instead of generic boring Rei-clone style JP voice acting.

I've actually never heard her dub voice I don't think since I undubbed both games when I bought them on PS3, I'll have to look up a clip on Youtube or something.

no elise fans here ?

I like her too, Fie is my favorite though.
 

Moonlight

Banned
Fie is the best, naturally.

[Cold Steel II spoiler]
I've checked and it's totally not Crow's jacket. So the question becomes why would Crow changes clothes if he's gone...
CS2 end game spoilers:

Okay, that changes things a bit. Hmm. Still a bit hesitant to say that's literally Crow for how seriously it took his death, and I give Falcom enough credit to feel they aren't the types to back down from these sorts of things. But the way the hair is swept and especially the headband doesn't leave me with much other ideas.

...maybe it's a future Rean, having literally turned his back on the Imperial army? The change in coat being his symbolic moment of resolve. And maybe he puts on the headband just to honour Crow's memory. Or... something. :shrug

Maybe it's a mistake to try to read into a back of a character so hard, lol.
 

Zedark

Member
25% of copies of Tales of Berseria were sold on PS3, and 20% of copies of Persona 5, so there's still a business case with the popular games which were originally targeting the PS3 as a lead format. It's like the case for creating an Xbox One version for the west - won't be the majority of sales but sales will justify the cost.

Tales has already announced that Berseria is the last cross gen entry with PS3.
 
So, I knew this was coming, yet it's still disappointing to hear.

Sometimes I find it baffling with companies like Falcom spend a generation and a half building up a fanbase for a series like this on Sony handhelds then ditch them at the final hurdle. Especially given the modest production values of everything prior to Sen I, then suddenly Vita's increased power isn't enough.

Still, whatever, I'll get over it. I like Falcom & this series enough to buy it on PS4 if that's where it's ending up. Damn shame that we've never managed to get a full Trails sub-series on Vita in the west though (2 TiTs games; 2 ToCS games; 0 Crossbell games -_-)

The news that stings more is Ys VIII. "We're not doing another Tokyo Xanadu Ex+!" then they do exactly that, screw off.
 
So we got PS3& Vita, PS3 & Vita and then its moving to PS4

god damn you best port the games to PS4 or have some fancy ass save mojo so I can carry over play data

EDIT: Laura is best and i'll hit anyone who disagrees with a ridiculously oversized sword
 

Dio

Banned
Do I play the Vita games before the ones on Steam or the other way around?

The series goes like this:

Trails in the Sky FC
Trails in the Sky SC
Trails in the Sky the 3rd
Trails of Zero
Trails of Azure
Trails of Cold Steel I
Trails of Cold Steel II

Only the first two Sky games and CSI/II are localized. Luckily, FC and SC are a closed-off duology (relatively) and 3rd is an epilogue which leads into the rest of the series, and Cold Steel was designed for newcomers to the series.

In summary, FC -> SC -> Cold Steel I and II is just fine. However, The 3rd hits in 2017 so it's up to you if you want to wait. It's not really necessary.
 

Dio

Banned
Kirino is great though!

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pbayne

Member
Meh those new characters designs looks like they doubled down on the generic anime.

Still need to get through 2 but im honestly not to thrilled to have Rean as protag again.
 

Waji

Member
We had good times together, Kiseki series, good bye.
Worst chara design for the whole series from what I see + PS4 only.
I guess Falcom really didn't want to get back to Zero/Ao quality.
 

T-Rex.

Banned
While you should be fine starting with the VIta/PS3 one, the Steam games come first. So ideally start with those.
The series goes like this:

Trails in the Sky FC
Trails in the Sky SC
Trails in the Sky the 3rd
Trails of Zero
Trails of Azure
Trails of Cold Steel I
Trails of Cold Steel II


Only the first two Sky games and CSI/II are localized. Luckily, FC and SC are a closed-off duology (relatively) and 3rd is an epilogue which leads into the rest of the series, and Cold Steel was designed for newcomers to the series.

In summary, FC -> SC -> Cold Steel I and II is just fine. However, The 3rd hits in 2017 so it's up to you if you want to wait. It's not really necessary.
I have plenty of free time right now so I'll start with the ones on Steam then. Thanks!
 

Dio

Banned
Fie never left my party and from the ones I've seen she has some of the best bonding events and ending scenes.

It's between her and Emma for #1

Same re:party. Rean/Fie/Laura/Emma makes for the strongest team.

Fie with 100% evasion so she never gets hit and can act as a tank, Laura with Tauros, Radiant Wings, and various other things so she does this:


Criminal on Emma for even more damage, and you've got the face melting team of victory.
 
Same re:party. Rean/Fie/Laura/Emma makes for the strongest team.

Fie with 100% evasion so she never gets hit and can act as a tank, Laura with Tauros, Radiant Wings, and various other things so she does this:

Criminal on Emma for even more damage, and you've got the face melting team of victory.
hell yeah, except I choose Sara instead of Laura. She's better in every way and I'll fight you if you disagree
 

Fisico

Member
Well I was on the fence but I think I will not bother playing my sealed Cold Steel II copy then.
First episode was the kind of long ass JRPG that lasted dozen of hours that I have a hard time to afford these days (took me around 2 months playing ~1-2h a day, mostly on transports), if they're moving out of handhelds then it's a lost cause for me.

Mind the game was long, but the writing of many of the subplots made it somehow worthwile, I only say somehow because the main plot dragged on for way too long and it's hard to justify a whole game of buildup with very few satisfying answers, apparently the second entry is barely better on that point

For the western audience it's a great news, people like gaming on their huge ass tv there, but CSIII won't have the graphical upgrade that will make it standout from the others average japanese games, and also it's the fucking third entry of a subseries, how can you expect newcomers to jump on that and expand your audience?

I hope it will perform well, because on the quality front Falcom is up there, but I have worries about the sales they will get from going this way, the safest (and probably wisest) choice should shave been to stay PS4/PSV for CSIII and eventually going PS4 only for their next IP/subseries, as it stands I can only see the game drop dramatically after what Tokyo Xanadu ex+ did and what Ys 8 will do.
 

Dio

Banned
The series started with such a great female protagonist, i hope they will someday go back to that.

Well, the Trails subseries that is. Trails in the Sky is the sixth Legend of Heroes, Trails of Zero/Azure is LoH 7, and Cold Steel I/II/III is LoH 8.
 
Rean protagonist again? Kiseki is dead to me; I'm not playing through 200 hours of shitty characters. I'll just cherish Trails in the Sky, when Falcom still knew how to make fun games...
 

Dio

Banned
Rean protagonist again? Kiseki is dead to me; I'm not playing through 200 hours of shitty characters. I'll just cherish Trails in the Sky, when Falcom still knew how to make fun games...
Rean is popular.


Not as popular as Estelle but he's still #3 on, say, this popularity chart.

He got a big bump in popularity after CSII came out from what I can tell.

Does that mean no Steam?

I always thought Falcom supported that platform

Falcom doesn't have a PC distributor anymore and hasn't released a concurrent PC version of one of their games since Zero. Sony only right now. Ys Origin came out in 2006 and that's their most 'recent' Steam title.
 
Rean is popular.

Not as popular as Estelle but he's still #3 on, say, this popularity chart.

He got a big bump in popularity after CSII came out from what I can tell.

I don't believe popularity equates to quality, and it certainly doesn't equate to my own enjoyment level.

At least Estelle and Olivier are 1 and 2 there, so Japanese fans have at least a little good taste.
 

Dinda

Member
Well, the Trails subseries that is. Trails in the Sky is the sixth Legend of Heroes, Trails of Zero/Azure is LoH 7, and Cold Steel I/II/III is LoH 8.

Well yeah, but i see Trails as it's own thing by now, much like with Persona.
 

Shahed

Member
PS4 is nice. Hopefully the tech comes forward a lot from the PS3/Vita games because as much as I enjoyed them, they were very subpar in that regard. Worried about character bloat with the new party members considering there were already far too many in CSII.

Here's hoping I Rean headpats the wrong girl in the Prologue and she kills him in retaliation!
 

Zhao_Yun

Member
So... how high is the chance to see Zero and Ao in the West before this one? As far as I know Sen III will serve as the continuation for both Ao and Sen II, right? (No Crossbell spoilers pls)
Don't think I want to play Sen III while knowing only half of the story background...
 
post-CS2 Rean seems like he could be an interesting character. Maybe I'm expecting too much, but they have to do SOMETHING with the whole thing they set up

I understand not loving Rean but every other character is so good that it doesn't even matter
 

pbayne

Member
Rean is popular.

Not as popular as Estelle but he's still #3 on, say, this popularity chart.

He got a big bump in popularity after CSII came out from what I can tell.

Is the protag dude of Zero as bland/self-inserty as Rean?
 

Kalor

Member
So... how high is the chance to see Zero and Ao in the West before this one? As far as I know Sen III will serve as the continuation for both Ao and Sen II, right? (No Crossbell spoilers pls)
Don't think I want to play it while knowing only half of the story background...

At the most we'll get Zero but we'll hear nothing about that until a while after 3rd is out.
 

Dio

Banned
Is the protag dude of Zero as bland/self-inserty as Rean?

Did you watch Gurren Lagann? I've heard him compared to 21-year-old Simon from that. More hotblood than the other ones. Shonen speeches, et cetera.

Rean is a light novel protagonist (Rakudai, Mahouka, etcetera), Zero/Ao is a super robot protagonist (Gurren etc.). Specifically, one like Simon.
 

Dio

Banned
Is Xanadu Next Steam version a work of Falcom? Or the improved graphics and contents are works of XSEED?
XSEED did all the extra programming to support widescreen and fixed UI stuff. That's thanks to their hardworking employee Sara, their sole programmer.
 

pbayne

Member
Did you watch Gurren Lagann? I've heard him compared to 21-year-old Simon from that. More hotblood than the other ones. Shonen speeches, et cetera.

Rean is a light novel protagonist (Rakudai, Mahouka, etcetera), Zero/Ao is a super robot protagonist (Gurren etc.). Specifically, one like Simon.

Oh my that actually sounds pretty great.
 

PantsuJo

Member
XSEED did all the extra programming to support widescreen and fixed UI stuff. That's thanks to their hardworking employee Sara, their sole programmer.
Oh okay, thanks for the clarification.
Well, so a big thanks to Sara and XSEED because I fucking love this game :D
 
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