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[HarryKS]

Terrible piece of crap. Atrocious acting. Self-serving and overindulgent writing. Malevolent acting. No subtlety. Amateur hour acting. Unlikable characters. So thick.

Great premise.

African dude is cool, Mexican dude is cool.

The rest range from mediocre to abhorrent( actress playing the transsexual, woe is me icelandic girl).

Great premise, terrible execution.

 

[teruterubozu]

It's alright. Honestly it's about on par with anything from the Wachowskis these days, or any sci-fi on TV these days for the matter. Not sure what people are expecting.

 

[GK86]

I finished it. Great series. It definitely gets better after the slow start. I love how everything started to come together towards the final four episodes (especially the final two).

The show is beautiful shot. The action scenes are really well done (

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The car chase scene with Capheus and the revenge killing with Wolfgang, being my two favorites)

.

Sun and Lito were my favorite characters. Lito's story arc was great and brought onion cutting ninjas to my house. Sun was, straight up, a fucking badass.

I do have a few (minor) gripes with the show. One, is something has mentioned, and will be mentioned for anyone that watches it, the dialogue can be bad. I don't think it life causing cancer bad like some make it out to be, however. Two, not enough Naveen Andrews. Although, this is understandable since they already have eight characters running around. plus supporting and bad characters.

Overall, it was a fun ride and I can not wait for season two.

 

[hamchan]

It's alright. Honestly it's about on par with anything from the Wachowskis these days, or any sci-fi on TV these days for the matter. Not sure what people are expecting.

Nah, it's much better than that turd Jupiter Ascending.

 

[Vincent Grayson]

I watched the first episode last night, and I quite liked it. Still seems like very little has been explained, and I definitely missed some important bits while trying to explain things to my mother who was watching it with me.

I definitely like this better than the last several things they've done (so far, anyway), and man, am I crazy, or is this like SJW porn? So much diversity of race/gender/sexuality in just the first episode, and I'm not complaining, because that's got a huge appeal for me.

 

[Display Error]

It's slow to start, but closer to the end, we really get to see all 8 members work together. I can't wait for season 2.

Watch out for episode 6... they have a huge

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Sense8 orgy o_o

 

[rexor0717]

I watched the first episode last night, and I quite liked it. Still seems like very little has been explained, and I definitely missed some important bits while trying to explain things to my mother who was watching it with me.

I definitely like this better than the last several things they've done (so far, anyway), and man, am I crazy, or is this like SJW porn? So much diversity of race/gender/sexuality in just the first episode, and I'm not complaining, because that's got a huge appeal for me.

This becomes a bit more literal later on, lol.

 

[Ingueferroque]

I wish I had more free time, because I'm only on episode 4.. so I clicked on this thread without reading any of the posts afraid of being spoiled.

I just wanted to say that this show is wonderful, awesome, campy.. but in a good way. I love it, and it is getting to me. Episode 3 was amazing. I love the Van Dam bus scenes, and the kickboxing scene.

I hope it is being received well.. can't wait to watch more!

Edit: The one annoying thing about releasing a show in its entirety on day 1, is that you can't really have proper discussion about it unless you've watched it all. Like the Hannibal or Game of Thrones threads..

 

[BamfMeat]

Terrible piece of crap. Atrocious acting. Self-serving and overindulgent writing. Malevolent acting. No subtlety. Amateur hour acting. Unlikable characters. So thick.

Great premise.

African dude is cool, Mexican dude is cool.

The rest range from mediocre to abhorrent( actress playing the transsexual, woe is me icelandic girl).

Great premise, terrible execution.

It's Transgender, not trannsexual.

Only watched the first episode so far.

I was surprised that the transgender story line was very very apparent. And it made me laugh that they had a few Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence.

Slow but interesting show. I'll have to watch it more when I'm not in an ambien haze.

 

[StudioTan]

I watched the first episode last night, and I quite liked it. Still seems like very little has been explained, and I definitely missed some important bits while trying to explain things to my mother who was watching it with me.

I definitely like this better than the last several things they've done (so far, anyway), and man, am I crazy, or is this like SJW porn? So much diversity of race/gender/sexuality in just the first episode, and I'm not complaining, because that's got a huge appeal for me.

Personally, I would not watch this show with my mother beyond the first episode

EDIT: Actually, there was a sex scene in the first episode wasn't there? Well, there are more!

 

[Kaladin]

Who played Riley's father? I feel like he's someone I recognize but can't place him or find him in the credits on IMDB.

 

[Dan]

Who played Riley's father? I feel like he's someone I recognize but can't place him or find him in the credits on IMDB.

Kristján Kristjánsson

I had the same reaction, but near as I can tell he hasn't acted before. His character seems based on his own life, a musician who traveled around Europe before settling into fame in Iceland.

 

[Kaladin]

Kristján Kristjánsson

I had the same reaction, but near as I can tell he hasn't acted before. His character seems based on his own life, a musician who traveled around Europe before settling into fame in Iceland.

Hmmm, maybe I've come across his music somehow in the folk and blues stuff I listen to.

I swear I've heard of him before.

 

[BrightLightLava]

Kristján Kristjánsson

I had the same reaction, but near as I can tell he hasn't acted before. His character seems based on his own life, a musician who traveled around Europe before settling into fame in Iceland.

So he's an Icelandic Kris Kristofferson?

 

[Terrell]

Terrible piece of crap. Atrocious acting. Self-serving and overindulgent writing. Malevolent acting. No subtlety. Amateur hour acting. Unlikable characters. So thick.

Great premise.

African dude is cool, Mexican dude is cool.

The rest range from mediocre to abhorrent( actress playing the transsexual, woe is me icelandic girl).

Great premise, terrible execution.

She's not "playing a transsexual." She is a transgender actress, so there's nothing to play outside of the character herself.

 

[HarryKS]

It's Transgender, not trannsexual.

Only watched the first episode so far.

I was surprised that the transgender story line was very very apparent. And it made me laugh that they had a few Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence.

Slow but interesting show. I'll have to watch it more when I'm not in an ambien haze.

She's not "playing a transsexual." She is a transgender actress, so there's nothing to play outside of the character herself.

Ok, a transsexual.

Still an atrocious actor. The scenes in the hospital were really special. Up to that point I thought the cop was the weakest, then she was unleashed.

 

[Taruranto]

#5

"Spirit of Jean-Claude Korean lady, I know you have more important things to do, but for me, nothing is more important."

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The dialogue between Sun and Van Damme

pretty much highlight the series strong and weak points.

 

[Dany]

YO, was that a dance battle?

YESS

 

[SpecialAgentZ]

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Yes and kind of.

Thanks

 

[Magic Mushroom]

Terrible piece of crap. Atrocious acting. Self-serving and overindulgent writing. Malevolent acting. No subtlety. Amateur hour acting. Unlikable characters. So thick.

Great premise.

African dude is cool, Mexican dude is cool.

The rest range from mediocre to abhorrent( actress playing the transsexual, woe is me icelandic girl).

Great premise, terrible execution.

Atrocious? Abhorrent? Such hyperbole.

 

[ivysaur12]

Ok, a transsexual.

You're not really listening to people when they correct you, are you?

 

[Jpop]

Ok, a transsexual.

Still an atrocious actor. The scenes in the hospital were really special. Up to that point I thought the cop was the weakest, then she was unleashed.

Do you even read, cmon. She's trangender not transsexual


On that note I marathoned the show and really enjoyed it. Riley reminds me of a girl I was with in real life, instant crush.

 

[Deleted member 22576]

So we started watching this show and are on episode 2 and literally nothing has happened so far. I am in disbelief how incoherent and thrown together this is. It is the biggest piece of garbage since gus van sants elephant.

Woof.


Gonna continue to watch it though. Halfway through episode2. Completely directionless.

"She can spin!"


"My heart belongs to another."
"That's cool."

 

[rexor0717]

So we started watching this show and are on episode 2 and literally nothing has happened so far. I am in disbelief how incoherent and thrown together this is. It is the biggest piece of garbage since gus van sants elephant.

Woof.


Gonna continue to watch it though. Halfway through episode2. Completely directionless.

"She can spin!"


"My heart belongs to another."
"That's cool."

The show is just kinda like that.

 

[Deleted member 22576]

It's alright. I really like the wachowskis but I'm amazed at how absolutely nothing is happening.

I like the cashier in episode 2 "I totally dig the buzz"



This show is basically this video
http://youtu.be/toQAkCGlZ2Y

 

[Kaladin]

The narrative of the early episodes is simple:

You have eight totally different people living out their lives and they begin to notice these odd things happening.

I thought many of the connections like hearing thunder when it's not raining and that leading into a scene where it is was a great way to introduce it.

 

[Sober]

The narrative of the early episodes is simple:

You have eight totally different people living out their lives and they begin to notice these odd things happening.

I thought many of the connections like hearing thunder when it's not raining and that leading into a scene where it is was a great way to introduce it.

I think it's a problem I have with a lot of shows in the Netflix format is they treat the season like a 12/13-hour movie. I watched the first 3 episodes. I think it's supposed to be "3 acts" as intended, so 1-4 should be an act, etc. It's definitely a switch around from more traditional episodic flavour on broadcast/cable.

Like certain plotlines carry over to the next episode and continue before concluding. Not really a fan, but stuff about the show is worth watching, so I'll endure. I think this particular kind of format needs refining because cutting it off at the 45-60 minute mark feels disingenuous and seems to exist only to keep the binge going.

 

[Deleted member 22576]

I'll continue to watch the show out of dedication to my wachowski fandom but so far after the first two episodes I am dumbfounded. My girlfriend was kinda pissed at how archetypal all the characters are. I was mostly just aghast at the incoherency of it all.

I don't know! I'm gonna watch more in a couple of days I guess.

 

[Dali]

Okay I'm like 5 or 6 deep and I guess this is supposed to be a drama unlike the trailers would leave us to believe. The enemy has yet to be established. They've yet to reveal any big truths of their connection. This shows pacing is horrible. They should have established basic things by now, but all they've done is shown each of them have their own personal problems. So far its all about talking it out with your mental pen pals.

 

[tirminyl]

Just finished up everything and I will have to say that despite the bumps in the road, I liked it!

Favorite characters are Lito, Sun, and Capheus.

 

[duckroll]

Okay I'm like 5 or 6 deep and I guess this is supposed to be a drama unlike the trailers would leave us to believe. The enemy has yet to be established. They've yet to reveal any big truths of their connection. This shows pacing is horrible. They should have established basic things by now, but all they've done is shown each of them have their own personal problems. So far its all about talking it out with your mental pen pals.

That's kinda what the show is. It's more like Cloud Atlas and Lost than Matrix or Heroes. It's a drama about people in different parts of the world, their problems, their cultures, and how being interconnected via a psychic link allows them to learn from others and share their problems and their knowledge. It gets more action packed in the final stretch, but it's still a character driven series rather than a pure conspiracy thriller. The conspiracy in the first season is pretty boring anyway.

 

[Kaladin]

I liken the show to Lost where instead of being on an island, these eight are connected the way they are.

It's a drama with sci-fi and action tendencies.

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I agree with one thing though, Mr. Whispers should have been more heavily featured.

Though, I did like how they get into the mythology through Riley's past.

 

[rexor0717]

That's kinda what the show is. It's more like Cloud Atlas and Lost than Matrix or Heroes. It's a drama about people in different parts of the world, their problems, their cultures, and how being interconnected via a psychic link allows them to learn from others and share their problems and their knowledge. It gets more action packed in the final stretch, but it's still a character driven series rather than a pure conspiracy thriller. The conspiracy in the first season is pretty boring anyway.

Yeah, it probably would have been worse without the "main plot" but I just really enjoyed the character interactions and could have done without it at all. It would have strengthened Will and Riley's story and I'm sure you could have made Nomi's story without it. Going forward to 5 seasons needs a driving force so it has to be there but its execution in the first season dragged.

 

[Terrell]

I must be the only person here who likes Kala.

 

[Hours Left]

I must be the only person here who likes Kala.

I like her. I enjoy her earnest personality, and she and Wolfgang are really cute together.

 

[rexor0717]

I must be the only person here who likes Kala.

She is right behind Lito on my hot-scale for main characters, but her storyline seemed very disconnected and didn't have the great moments that Capheus did.

 

[duckroll]

I must be the only person here who likes Kala.

I like the direction Kala's story went, and there's nothing really wrong with her as a character. The care they put towards representing the cultural aspects of India well is also fantastic. But I think in terms of general narrative, her arc is probably the least exciting and connected, so it's less memorable.

(Full season spoilers)

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I expect that in future seasons she will play a much larger role in terms of helping the others, since it looks likely that she'll be marrying Rajan, and having the owner of a big pharmaceutical company in India as a husband is going to be a big asset when fighting against another international pharmaceutical company which is out to hunt and kill them.

 

[Vincent Grayson]

Personally, I would not watch this show with my mother beyond the first episode

EDIT: Actually, there was a sex scene in the first episode wasn't there? Well, there are more!

Yeah, there sure is a big girl on a girl scene in the first episode. But it ain't no thing. We've watched GoT together, and were smoking a bowl anyway.

 

[Terrell]

I like the direction Kala's story went, and there's nothing really wrong with her as a character. The care they put towards representing the cultural aspects of India well is also fantastic. But I think in terms of general narrative, her arc is probably the least exciting and connected, so it's less memorable.

(Full season spoilers)

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I expect that in future seasons she will play a much larger role in terms of helping the others, since it looks likely that she'll be marrying Rajan, and having the owner of a big pharmaceutical company in India as a husband is going to be a big asset when fighting against another international pharmaceutical company which is out to hunt and kill them.

Yeah, I think it was the fullest cultural depiction of all of them in the show and part of the reason she's in my top 3 characters. And I dunno, story arcs don't have to excite me to be captivating.

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As for being less connected? I think she was quite connected, but in very obfuscated ways. I think that Kala's fiancee and dead future father-in-law play a big part in all the non-scifi things happening with the characters and this season was just laying the ground work for that.

 

[Hours Left]

Yeah, I think it was the fullest cultural depiction of all of them in the show and part of the reason she's in my top 3 characters. And I dunno, story arcs don't have to excite me to be captivating.

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As for being less connected? I think she was quite connected, but in very obfuscated ways. I think that Kala's fiancee and dead future father-in-law play a big part in all the non-scifi things happening with the characters and this season was just laying the ground work for that.

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Her father in law didn't die. He's still alive in the ICU.

One thing I find fairly funny about this show is their reluctance to kill characters, even when it looks like they've died.

 

[Terrell]

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Her father in law didn't die. He's still alive in the ICU.

One thing I find fairly funny about this show is their reluctance to kill characters, even when it looks like they've died.

Oops, my bad. But the rest of what I said still stands.

 

[And_Gignac]

Episode 10 scene was beautiful. Lito's

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birthing was specially amazing with the whole family watching Cuna de Lobos and Catalina Creel's iconic pool-murder scene. Poetic life-death drama right there lmao

This has to be the wicked work of a Mexican writer lol.

 

[MadraptorMan]

Watched the whole thing...man I really didn't like it. Whole thing felt ultimately pointless. Bad acting and too many heavy-handed "emotional" scenes. We get it, people are emotional beings, big whoop. Geez.

 

[duckroll]

Yeah, I think it was the fullest cultural depiction of all of them in the show and part of the reason she's in my top 3 characters. And I dunno, story arcs don't have to excite me to be captivating.

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As for being less connected? I think she was quite connected, but in very obfuscated ways. I think that Kala's fiancee and dead future father-in-law play a big part in all the non-scifi things happening with the characters and this season was just laying the ground work for that.

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I mean her connection to other characters and having an impact on the season. The season paired up all the characters in terms of emotional connection - Will/Riley, Nomi/Lito, Sun/Capheus, Kala/Wolfgang. By the end of the season, Will helped Riley overcome her past trauma, Riley helped Will atone for being unable to save Sara, Nomi helped Lito face up to who he is instead of hiding it, Sun gave Capheus the physical strength he needed to overcome his odds while he gave her an outlet for her anger.

But Kala was unable to save Wolfgang from his destructive nature, and he was unable to change the course of her "fate". In the end, she accepted that while she might not love her fiancee in the same way he loves her, he is a decent and sincere man. Her attraction to Wolfgang might be a base instinct, but she cannot accept him for the sort of person he is. I think this outcome makes her storyline unique, and is a good thing for the dynamics moving forward, but it also contributes to the feeling that her story arc is the most passive as a result.

 

[Sesuadra]

That's kinda what the show is. It's more like Cloud Atlas and Lost than Matrix or Heroes. It's a drama about people in different parts of the world, their problems, their cultures, and how being interconnected via a psychic link allows them to learn from others and share their problems and their knowledge. It gets more action packed in the final stretch, but it's still a character driven series rather than a pure conspiracy thriller. The conspiracy in the first season is pretty boring anyway.

so, if I hate the characters and how they are written in the first episode, I can stop watching it?

It's a honest question. My best friend loves it, and I really really did not like the first episode but would try watching the second episode if it gets better..

 

[Envelope]

so, if I hate the characters and how they are written in the first episode, I can stop watching it?

It's a honest question. My best friend loves it, and I really really did not like the first episode but would try watching the second episode if it gets better..

eh i wasn't impressed by the first ep but i kept going a few eps and it got better, i wouldn't drop it right away if i were you.

 

[Sober]

Okay, finished episode 4. Definitely feels like the a first set of episodes for an act or something. I say that because it feels like the first time the show has within the first 4 hours actually hit some climaxes for their characters. It feels a little scattershot, like (spoilers to 104):

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Wolfgang and Felix basically really frontloaded and seems to just taper off to prime him and Kala to fall in love or something?

Lito, his bf and beard are super fun, but not much there except jealous obvious drug lord boyfriend threatening him, which may come into play later.

Same with Riley, really front loaded like Wolfgang and just sort of drifts between scenes right now. I can see why some people think the show is slow at times when she shows up.

Otherwise everyone else's own plots move at a decent pace. Will seems to be the guy who will either get the big meta plot going or be the lead on getting all the connections together.

I'm mostly glad but also confused they don't dwell alot on visiting/sharing except with Will and Jonas. Like Capheus and Sun just kinda accept it oddly enough.

Otherwise the

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karaoke scene / 4 Non Blondes montage

was reeeeeeeeally good.

 

[Dan]

I've been idly thinking about what this would look like with a super massive budget... I'm imagining some of Speed Racer's techniques of melting time and space into single shots and taking that to the next level. Forget hot-swapping characters and locations through straight edits, and just flow freely between them in frame. Oh man.

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Speed Racer is cinematic brilliance.

Why are the opening credits so bad for a concept like this? I can think of five or six good minute long concepts for this shows' opening. Stupid.

Clearly they spent all the budget elsewhere, so the opening credits are just whatever the hell the Wachowskis and Bill Pope John Toll could point the camera at between setups.

 

[Sober]

I've been idly thinking about what this would look like with a super massive budget... I'm imagining some of Speed Racer's techniques of melting time and space into single shots and taking that to the next level. Forget hot-swapping characters and locations through straight edits, and just flow freely between them in frame. Oh man.

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Speed Racer is cinematic brilliance.

Clearly they spent all the budget elsewhere, so the opening credits are just whatever the hell the Wachowskis and Bill Pope could point the camera at between setups.

I'm frankly surprised at the amount of coordination alone on the production side if it's all shot more or less in each city. Especially when characters cross into another's scenes even for mere moments.

 

[ivysaur12]

Otherwise the

Spoiler

karaoke scene / 4 Non Blondes montage

was reeeeeeeeally good.

Yeah, that's struck me as the crux of the series. Really changed where my headspace was about it.