Sibersk Esto
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If Batista came back as a heel, worked shorter matches that focused on power moves, didn't give Alberto Del Rio MORE screen time, and didn't have shitty attire, his return would've been infinitely more tolerable
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September Wrasslin' |OT| Almost Brings a tear to my eye
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Yeah, the ADR/Batista feud was weird.
You're spot on about the Daniel Wyatt thing though. They just picked a really bad time to do that storyline. Everybody wanted Bryan going after the belt at that point.
lovely ladies
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Unless they give him the title or something close to that nature, I don't know if it's even worth it for Batista. I thought he was shooting some new version of Bloodsport or something and then he'll probably get to work on GoG2 in the next year or so.
True. It goes back to WWE's booking of what they consider good for the masses. In Vince's eye Batista/Orton should have been the headline for Wrestlemania 30 but instead they included the "runt" into the mix. They should have gave Batista a chance to get back into the funk and feud with Cena for a final showdown. It would have saved Bray's momentum because no lie after his match with Cena....his momentum died
.Well I think it was a feud that was supposed to go onto being Batistas first defence after winning the title, but then it was clear he wasn't going to be cheered anyway.
Evolution reunion against the Shield made it worth it.
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The biggest issue I had with that story is how they emergency-aborted it instead of letting it happen and sticking to it. Now unfortunately it's been done before and they can't (or shouldn't) go back to the well.
It didn't help the fact that Brotista left during his amazing heel turn. Also, even during his hayday...fans didn't give much of a shit about him as Vince saw in his own warped mindset. I remember pre IWC days posters used to call him botchtista and say how much his matches sucked.
I feel they would have stuck to it had the ESPN/Michigan State "YES" chant not happened. I kind of think that was the moment Vince actually realized how over as fuck Bryan was so he had to capitalize on it.
I admit to having a little bit of a bias because I was never a big Batista fan, but yeah, it seems like Vince and company always thought Batista was a bigger star than he actually was.
Sibersk Esto
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That's because top Smackdown guy Batista didn't do shit until his Taker feud which, let's be honest, he was totally playing the heel for.
Let's not forget his "awesome" match with Big Show in WWECW.
The Daniel Wyatt thing ended in a blaze of glory. That shitty storyline proved that he's still over a hell. I remember that cage match and how the crowd lost their shit when Bry turned on Bray. It was like Bry was glowing and hitting level 1000 while Villain Vince in the gorilla position yelling to the production team to lower the yes chants.
That storyline was a gift in a smashed up box.
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Can you imagine how awesome that would have been if it had three months to build? Man.
Just playing devil's advocate. I don't remember too many people being that thrilled with the story when it first started. Part of that reaction might have been the fans collectively going "thank fucking Christ this was over before it started".
Imagine the pop Vince would get if he walked into the ring tonight and said "The Bella segments aren't happening anymore".
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I think a lot of people were too worried Bryan wouldn't make it to Mania as a face. It's still a solid group to join. Then they started...well...Mania 30 was a dope show, possibly the best Mania, but boy did it run out of steam right after. Had Evolution not put over the Shield as hard as they did it would have been a total wash.
Sibersk Esto
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1 month would've been fine. We NEEDED that Rumble match
I remember during the evolution breakup Orton getting more pop for leaving than Batista. He will forever be known as the collection plate guy for devon and having a good match with taker.
Agree. His feud with taker was probably the best thing to happen during his run besides calling cena on his shit.
:/ It's sad when Sabu out of all people had to save the match from getting destroyed by the ECW fans. Lol that was the last time Vince went into the Ballroom. Punk getting cheered and Big Show/Brotista getting booed....NOPE!
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WTF has Madden done
this is so weird and creepy
this is so weird and creepy
Bateaster was over and held down Smackdown for those few years when he wasn't hurt. When he wasn't on Smackdown, he didn't do much for the company. He was never a great wrestler, but a lot of big drawing guys weren't good wrestlers. It's not always about the great matches. He also wasn't a very good promo as a face, so I'm not sure why he was over, but he was. He had a connection with the Smackdown audiences and was definitely more over than Cena at the same time.
I see the flags all over my city and it makes me very uncomfortable when I roll by them. There is a little enclave of DTOM and Confederate flags, with all the cars having hateful Obama bumper stickers, about a mile and a half from me. It's just one little road on in a neighborhood, but every house has one or both flags.
There is also a house where the windows are covered with Heath Ledger Joker posters. That might be even more unsettling.
Sibersk Esto
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WTF has Madden done
this is so weird and creepy
Forced corporate memes are the worst
To you, sure. To the vast majority of the rest of fans, no.
After checking tonight's "Raw 5 Point Preview", I'd kill for a Daniel Wyatt angle. At least Takeover is this week.
I'm probably just going to skip Raw and play on my new Xbox One tonight
lovely ladies
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Well at least there's little chance of a 6 man tag match as the main event tonight although I might be counting the chickens before they hatch.
Three months is too long for something that expired on the day it happened. I remember the growns and moans from the fans when they did those segments where Bray punished Bry for screwing up. It didn't help the fact that it was destroying the wyatt family at the same time. The whole storyline was a mess and a half.
FallingEdge
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booooooring
Just watch MNF instead. YEAH BAYBEE!
Just watch MNF instead. YEAH BAYBEE!
Sibersk Esto
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Orton got his ass beat and then spit in Triple H's face, while Batista's turn was telegraphed as fuck. So yeah, way bigger pop. Also, no one remember's Rev. D-Von
Brotista held down smackdown because folks got tired of JBL running the show in the damn ground. It was a breath of fresh air seeing a guy that's not claiming he's a wrestling god :/.
Yeah, that makes absolutely no fucking sense. It seems like another stupid Vince ploy to get people to check in, because he thinks the stupid masses will see "Season Premiere" and think it's a good time to tune in since it will be a jumping in point.
WWE could really benefit from doing a proper "season/off-season" format though.
They've been doing that for years now, especially with Smackdown. Mid 2000s for SD at least.
Sibersk Esto
Banned
I've made up my mind to skip raw and play DMC3
According to Cole...It's the longest running weekly episodic television show in history. Whatever the fuck that means.
It's unfortunate no one remembers Rev D-von
. As far as tista's turn I agree they played it off well than orton getting shitted on by triple h.
BronsonLee
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I've made up my mind to skip Raw and probably drink/watch Nitro/Halloween movies.
No doubt. That was one of the hottest angles of a dark period. Fans were so ready for Bateaster to turn.
lovely ladies
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Weird thing was they had bald, pre-stubble Orton as the guy they feature at the end in one of the ads I saw and he hasn't had that look in what, 2-3 years? Maybe they've been running that ad on USA forever and I just never noticed.
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WWE is really scared of the NFL. Lol
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No Raw for me either. I've got a lot of options. Warriors Orochi 3 Ultimate, grind in D3, new Payday 2 DLC achievements...the world is my oyster.
I'll probably do none of those and work on my dating game. Taking girlies out to din din is getting pricey.
I'll probably do none of those and work on my dating game. Taking girlies out to din din is getting pricey.
Sibersk Esto
Banned
By Halloween movies do you mean just scary movies or the Michael Myers ones? Because I have a soft spot for those
Marketing: The Video Game
The game is actually fun, but holy fuck. If Titanfall didn't convince you that publishers have a ton of influence/control over video game sites, nothing will
BronsonLee
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Nothing face Orton ever did has shit on Batista turning face. That shit was magical and fans wanted it real bad for like 3 months beforehand.
Orton as a face was ruined by his first face turn, which was just forced. He was pretty great when he was the biggest name on Smackdown and feuding with Christian.
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Banned
Going to watch some dragon gate tonight
Sibersk Esto
Banned
Remember when Randy took the title from Christian practically two days after his win and the IWC went NUTS?
Sims. After the last 2 Raws and now Jerry Springer, I'd run.
Don't think there's a lot on the NOC card I'm looking forward to right now. Will have to see what they end up doing with Seth.
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