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wow, talk about missing the pointguy got powers, gets mad, government bad..
wow, talk about missing the pointguy got powers, gets mad, government bad..
People bashing it to pieces before release saying that it would be feminist propaganda
Yeah, why would they think that??? STRANGE
Yeah, why would they think that??? STRANGE
Yeah, why would they think that??? STRANGE
Yeah, why would they think that??? STRANGE
Yeah, why would they think that??? STRANGE
Who is the target audience for this shit? Women with daddy issues and weak men?
I'm sure it will be a huge success. lmao
Gonna go out on a limb here and assume both of you are single, possibly never dated a women before.
Yeah, why would they think that??? STRANGE
So, my problem with this is that this doesn't endearing AT ALL. In fact it makes her come across as unlikable. She's being passive-aggressive and actually talking and peaching at Bruce instead talking to him. This is supposed to be sort of empowering moment in the show, but really all it does make people turn off of watching it. That's not how you should highlight a female protagonist. Also she's highlighting the fact that she's a female first instead of being a flawed individual that has push through the mental blocks of her flaws and overcoming her constraints as a Hulk, which would have made her way more compelling as a character.
And yes, I'm not saying women haven't face sexism or have been constrained to duties as a women, because they have, but to say women, especially American women, have it harder than men is fucking stupid and ridiculous to say.
But then again, I haven't been interest in MCU at all since the start of Phase 4, this just looks like more of the same.
Yea, I's a man.Are you a man?
Because if you are, right here, we have a man telling a woman how a woman should write a female character. So you're kind of doing what she says men do in that scene, just not physically to a person's face.
Yea, I's a man.
And no, I'm not. I'm not putting down the writer. I didn't call her names or anything. I didn't say look at that fat juicy booty. I did none of that. Simply criticizing someone's work isn't inherently sexist.
And I didn't get the Captain America virgin thing at all (as a joke - showing that she's ignorant I did get). It wasn't funny and mocking one of the heroes that in this universe has saved the world.
I... don't know why this should need to be spelt out to you.How was she mocking Steve?
I... don't know why this should need to be spelt out to you.
If jokes complaining about "mansplaining" are okay, then virgin jokes shouldn't be.
How does that make it any better?If I remember correctly, wasn't Jen upset when she found out that Steve was a virgin and then happy at the end when she found out that Steve actually did fuck?
I never said you put her down or called her names. I'm not against looking at fat juicy booty's either because I love fat juicy booty's.
I'm just saying that this show was written by women and it comes from their perspective in life and what they have experienced. That scene is going to resonate with other women around the world. And you're coming in saying that the way they are writing Jen is completely wrong and how it should be done, without you ever having to experience what women go through. That's exactly what Jen is saying in that scene, men telling her how to do her job in her expertise.
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“I think that there’s a cultural obsession with the certain physique that goes along with these movies sometimes,” Maslany tells ET. “I certainly fell prey to that idea, and I definitely don’t think it’s a thing that we should be pursuing ‘cause it’s just these weird standards that none of us can actually keep up with unless we’re going to the gym 1,000 times a week.”
I don't think it's about Steve being a virgin, but Captain America, the great American war hero, being a virgin. It's the potential contrast between the public and private persona of Steve that makes it interesting.How does that make it any better?
If we're going the route of not insulting people (so no "mansplaining"), then why should it matter if he was or wasn't a virgin? Why would she care?
Anyway, it's all just fiction, so I'm done here for today.
Many of my women friends express the same feelings... Some get catcalled and, if they ignore, some of the males get too aggressive. Women have actually been killed in those instances... Or worse.
And yes, males have done a lot of the things she says like explain stuff to her that she already knows even when they're in THE SAME PROFESSION. I've seen it. My women friends tell me they've been through it. I get where Jennifer Walters is coming from saying she can control her anger better than Bruce.
But I don't think she knows the abuse Bruce went through... And WHY he has a split in his personality when he becomes The Savage Hulk.
I don't think it's about Steve being a virgin, but Captain America, the great American war hero, being a virgin. It's the potential contrast between the public and private persona of Steve that makes it interesting.
That's a major theme of Captain America 2, with the "fish out of water" storyline, and throughout the movie Natasha makes fun of Steve's lack of experience in a good-hearted way.
I have to explain how it is funny that one of the biggest "sex symbols" in a fictional universe might have had no sexual experience with women? And that making a joke out of this has nothing to do with shaming Steve personally but pointing out the silliness of what happened to Steve and our expectations surrounding Captain America? I mean literally the entire claim of the theory is that Steve never had the opportunity to get laid due to the timeline of what happened. It has nothing to do with him not being comfortable around women or desirable to them. The real joke is at the writers expense; that they want the audience to forget Captain America only "lived" a few months before being whisked into the present day. And fans pointing this out and making fun of the writers is why it was included in the show. Not as an attempt to be nasty and mean to Steve but to poke fun at the fans back, by pointing out that they did include a way for Steve to get laid!You've still failed to point out how that is a) funny and b) in this fictional universe, acceptable. And no, Captain America 2 does not do such a shitty hamfisted way of doing "a fish out of water". It just came across as nasty and mean.
It's fhe same with Bruce. She goes off on a rant about at most big annoyances, to a man who has gone through fucking hell - multiple times.
It just rubbed me up the wrong way badly and I'll not being watching anymore of this.
She is also a lawyer. So, she has gotta win that argument.
And yet, that's not how it came across here. The odd one-liner is perfectly fine, a mini rant has a completely different feel to it.I have to explain how it is funny that one of the biggest "sex symbols" in a fictional universe might have had no sexual experience with women? And that making a joke out of this has nothing to do with shaming Steve personally but pointing out the silliness of what happened to Steve and our expectations surrounding Captain America? I mean literally the entire claim of the theory is that Steve never had the opportunity to get laid due to the timeline of what happened. It has nothing to do with him not being comfortable around women or desirable to them. The real joke is at the writers expense; that they want the audience to forget Captain America only "lived" a few months before being whisked into the present day. And fans pointing this out and making fun of the writers is why it was included in the show. Not as an attempt to be nasty and mean to Steve but to poke fun at the fans back, by pointing out that they did include a way for Steve to get laid!
You can't tell the joke in a one liner because you need to setup the timeline and show that the writers seemingly didn't give any space for Captain America to have any real relationships. That's exactly what Jennifer does in the scene and she doesn't get a chance to rant about anything becauseAnd yet, that's not how it came across here. The odd one-liner is perfectly fine, a mini rant has a completely different feel to it.
And the context too. This is in a show, in an episode that seriously plays on some of the issues women face. Then goes and does the exact same thing about a man later on.
I can't believe I have to explain this.
Wow so okay, I've been going through this thread (with no intention of ever watching this show but only to see what the hivemind has to say about a show my gf will probably watch) and figured that it wasn't as bad as I feared.
Turns out: it's actually worse...
The actual fuck are some of you smoking.
I love how Intersectional-Feminist Nonsense(tm) always boils down to it still needing (bad) men to justify their goals. It's amazing.