I'm not sure why what he feels is terribly relevant.
I just think that it's important to note that a lot of people "Defending him" are effectively shitting on his experiences and feelings. That's it.
As before, objectification doesn't exist. There is only sexual imagery and non sexual imagery. We repress sexual imagery to a disturbing extent, and that causes huge problems. We need a massive expansion of sexual imagery in all areas and walks of life to start ending that harmful repression.
If your argument in most places comes down to "Obectification doesn't exist" then I gotta say, unless you can back that up with something you're not going to be taken particularly seriously.
Do you really not think that there are many varieties of sexual content? That there are no differences in how exploitative or base different examples of content are? Do you really think sexualised imagery is a zero sum game where you're either for all of it or against all of it?
Should I be able to wear a polo shirt with erect cocks all over it, purely because it's "Ending repression"? Your entire premise seems disconnected from reality. We have sexualised depictions of women and to a lesser extent men plastered all over television, billboards, bus stops, magazines, and you think we need more public sexual imagery, no matter the variety?
And this isn't an advertising or marketing concept. It's an argument that sexuality must be eliminated from work life, and that repressive "social contracts" are good. Read the thread.
I have read the thread plenty. I know what we are talking about. The issues are related. Whether it's in the public or the workplace, the concept is the same. The level and variety of sexual imagery and discussion needs to be appropriate for the context.
Ideally yes, healthy discussions of sexuality would be allowed and encouraged by wider culture, but on the flipside maybe extremely detailed bragging about your latest sexual encounter when co-workers clearly are being made uncomfortable is something that is to be avoided. Fun sexy inclusive calendar sale for charity, ideally, yeah, cool! Wearing a shirt many find denigrating and emblematic of a greater lack of respect on international television while representing a team and project, maybe not so awesome.
Do you see how we, as complex organisms can filter sexual imagery, content and discussion into more than one giant, homogeneous mental bucket, and treat the different elements differently?
What? Economic factors disproportionately affecting women isn't supported by research????
Hahahahaha.
This isn't what I said. At all. And the fact that it's what you read out of that post doesn't give me a tonne of hope for potential productive communication going forward...
What I actually said is that Cultural factors are pretty universally considered more relevant to the problem of gender disparity in these areas than "Economics" which again, is extremely vague to the point of meaninglessness.
