dreadfulwater
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provide a scale and a sign that reads:
"You must be this weight or below to purchase our combos"
"You must be this weight or below to purchase our combos"
Should Fast Food joints have the right to withhold sale to obese people?
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Nothing once every month is bad for you. You can spend an entire day eating whatever you want and as long as you eat healthy the other 29 days it will have zero effect on you. Moderation and control is the problem, not the food itself.
PigSpeakers
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Yes. Let's kill all the fatties, oldies, religious people, americans, gays, blacks, jews, women and people who generally just don't fit in with my idea of a perfect world. Let them burn in their imperfection. They do not know of the small burger joint just down the street from my house and it's superiority to whatever filth they scrounge up from the garbage cans. They cannot fathom or understand the pure aural bliss of this unknown indie band and how much better it is than the pop garbage they pump on the radios these days.
Only then will my glorious master race of perfect white males come to fruition. It will be that much of a better world.
DEATH PENALTY TO ALL, AND TO ALL A GOOD NIGHT.
Only then will my glorious master race of perfect white males come to fruition. It will be that much of a better world.
DEATH PENALTY TO ALL, AND TO ALL A GOOD NIGHT.
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Deified Data
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Handsome post. People often conveniently ignore the fact that hating and discriminating against fat people is no better or worse than discriminating against anyone else. The hypocricy when it comes to this issue is sickening to me.
I'm sure that's what they say about heroin too.
Vicetrailia
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Narrow-mindedness is a powerful thing.
It would be more like:
Should casinos ban people with gambling addictions?
Should liquor stores ban alcoholics from buying alcohol?
It's a silly idea. Hopefully the US never gets to that point.
So people on the go should go into a supermarket, grab the ingredients, and cook on the sidewalk?
Nothing wrong with fast food in moderation.
Tralfamadore64
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Forgive my ignorance, but can somebody list the non-self-inflicted causes for obesity? Barring disorders that SEVERELY hinder metabolism, which are not common enough to account for the obesity problem in this country, where are there cases where obesity isn't self induced?
The body requires food to create and maintain body fat. If a person eats too much food, they get fat. If they eat less food, they lose weight. These are facts. I personally work with about five people who are well over 350 pounds and many, many more who are over 250, and none of this is related to muscle mass, trust me. All of them tend to eat copious amounts of fast food (one man is notorious for dropping 20+ bucks at a Captain D's on ONE MEAL) or bring unhealthy homecooked meals to work (yesterday this included a half pound of bacon, all of which was consumed, in addition to cake and various other unhealthy food items) or make stupid decisions when trying to eat healthy (THREE packets of salad dressing on a subway salad).
The thing is, I like most of these people. I don't hate them for being fat, although I can't help but find the fact that they hopelessly revel in the fact that they're fat, to the point that it becomes a joke to them, which is sad. I am not always the healthiest eater, but I understand that I have to eat plenty of whole foods and avoid oreos and sugary sodas and various other forms of consumable garbage if I don't want to become dangerously rotund.
...anyway, obesity in this country is a result of a combination of cultural factors that lead people to think these eating decisions are okay, but make no mistake -- people are fat because they eat too much food. Barring some bizarre medical anomaly I'm unfamiliar with, nobody has ever gotten fatter while starving. Adipose tissue doesn't just magic itself up from the ether for no reason. So where are people not to blame for gaining weight?
On the subject at hand: Of course they have the right to refuse service to fat people, but they won't because it's bad business, and they shouldn't because people need to make these decisions for themselves, otherwise the changes in their lives are meaningless.
Edit: And for the record, I love fast food, because it is delicious, and sometimes I eat it. I'll usually go months and months without touching the stuff, and then for a month or two I'll find myself eating it once or twice a week (Yes, including trash like Taco Bell). Nothing wrong with eating it in moderation, but I've seen fat people eating fast food three, sometimes four, times a day, in addition to snacking on candy in between meals.
The body requires food to create and maintain body fat. If a person eats too much food, they get fat. If they eat less food, they lose weight. These are facts. I personally work with about five people who are well over 350 pounds and many, many more who are over 250, and none of this is related to muscle mass, trust me. All of them tend to eat copious amounts of fast food (one man is notorious for dropping 20+ bucks at a Captain D's on ONE MEAL) or bring unhealthy homecooked meals to work (yesterday this included a half pound of bacon, all of which was consumed, in addition to cake and various other unhealthy food items) or make stupid decisions when trying to eat healthy (THREE packets of salad dressing on a subway salad).
The thing is, I like most of these people. I don't hate them for being fat, although I can't help but find the fact that they hopelessly revel in the fact that they're fat, to the point that it becomes a joke to them, which is sad. I am not always the healthiest eater, but I understand that I have to eat plenty of whole foods and avoid oreos and sugary sodas and various other forms of consumable garbage if I don't want to become dangerously rotund.
...anyway, obesity in this country is a result of a combination of cultural factors that lead people to think these eating decisions are okay, but make no mistake -- people are fat because they eat too much food. Barring some bizarre medical anomaly I'm unfamiliar with, nobody has ever gotten fatter while starving. Adipose tissue doesn't just magic itself up from the ether for no reason. So where are people not to blame for gaining weight?
On the subject at hand: Of course they have the right to refuse service to fat people, but they won't because it's bad business, and they shouldn't because people need to make these decisions for themselves, otherwise the changes in their lives are meaningless.
Edit: And for the record, I love fast food, because it is delicious, and sometimes I eat it. I'll usually go months and months without touching the stuff, and then for a month or two I'll find myself eating it once or twice a week (Yes, including trash like Taco Bell). Nothing wrong with eating it in moderation, but I've seen fat people eating fast food three, sometimes four, times a day, in addition to snacking on candy in between meals.
Healthy and higher quality foods tend to be more expensive in general. While I think there is some level of conditioning involved with fast foods, I think poverty is still a main issue.
shira
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$$$ >>> all
Nothing gonna be done as long as McDonald's is a multi-bilion dollar corporation which provides jobs for millions of people.
Slow death is okay/acceptable because repeat customers. IE obesity/diabetes
Fast death is bad/not acceptable bad press. IE 015H7 e.coli outbreak
My idea is this. STOP PAYING ATTENTION TO WHAT OTHER PEOPLE ARE EATING YOU FUCKING NOSY ASS PIECES OF SHIT.
Live your own goddamn life.
The use of the apostrophe in Whites and the way only is tacked on in that ugly way like they wrote the sign wrong and they had to tack that shit on.
Live your own goddamn life.
The use of the apostrophe in Whites and the way only is tacked on in that ugly way like they wrote the sign wrong and they had to tack that shit on.
Well, can't bartenders refuse to sell someone more alcohol if they're already drunk? I think this should fall along the same lines, but no restaurant chain would ever be willing to do this. If you have some fancy, private restaurant, I guess it's ok to discriminate against the fatties, but you're still turning down money.
PigSpeakers
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You know what would be a good idea? If we rounded up all of the people we hate into a coliseum-type arena, and then gave everyone guns or whatever kind of weapon they wanted for some fun times and carnage. It would be beautiful. We could make a killing off of it if we charged them. If anyone tried to escape, the shock collar they would be wearing would activate.
Kill the fatties.
Kill the fatties.
Fill the katties.
It brings a tear to my eye that this perfect world will never exist.
Kill the fatties.
Kill the fatties.
Fill the katties.
It brings a tear to my eye that this perfect world will never exist.
Seriously though, as a fat person is there an approved list of foods I can eat in public without offending your sensibilities?
No hamburgers but salads are okay?
I'm guessing donuts are out of the question. I probably shouldn't be the guy picking them up for the office, what will people think? fat guy with a dozen. Can I at least get my Coffee? or are you going to watch me put milk and sugar in it?
No hamburgers but salads are okay?
I'm guessing donuts are out of the question. I probably shouldn't be the guy picking them up for the office, what will people think? fat guy with a dozen. Can I at least get my Coffee? or are you going to watch me put milk and sugar in it?
The point is shitty iceberg lettuce and some other cheap grass products dont come close to costing anywhere what these places charge for. I can go to a fancy restaurant and get a salad cheaper than most fast food places.
What evidence is there to suggest that most cases of obesity are self inflicted? Because the people that are obese overeat? That doesn't tell you that the people consciously overate, only that they did which is like saying that obese people are obese because they're obese. It's circular logic.
This idea that most obese people consciously overate to get obese needs to stop. Most obese people will tell you that they don't want to be obese. So then if it's all about lack of willpower to fix the problem, why did the majority of the United States and significant portions of the UK and Mexican population suddenly lose that motivation around 1980? Every other first world nation doesn't have this problem, with the same trends in inactivity.
I think most obese people will tell you they overeat because they're always hungry. To me this suggests a medical problem due to something new that's causing excessive hunger.
WanderingWind
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I'm probably missing something, but you're asking why he feels guilty because he profits off the problem of obesity?
Some of that is because their stomachs are larger from eating larger portions over a long period of time.
Yeah, good idea to have the skinny guy pick up the doughnuts for the office. It now is not acceptable to offend people and as you have read in this thread many are offended by overweight people. Times are a changin.
What sort of studies show this?
If it is true, why then did they overeat those larger portions for a long period of time? A normal person starts gagging when they put more food in their mouth.
That's a very ignorant stance, considering how much the obese cost your average person.
WanderingWind
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Children cost me a hell of a lot more, and they're totally preventable and also none of my concern. Taxes don't work that way, sorry.
Unless you're willing to go all the way down the rabbit hole on that one you should not even consider starting. And when you do go all the way down the rabbit hole well, congrats on your totalitarianism.
thetrin
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This is easily the silliest thing I've read in this thread.
What the fuck is with this awful American myth that the poor and homeless only have themselves to blame?
You want me to hunt down a study for this? Um, why do you think stomach stapling is successful? Smaller stomach makes you feel fuller quicker. Larger stomach makes you feel fuller slower.
And why did they overeat in the first place? You got me. Tons of reasons why people overeat.
bill gonorrhea
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1. Stop eating shit food. 2. Exercise. 3. Not Obese.
WanderingWind
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He's banned, guys.
I'm fine with fatty discrimination if we apply the same rules to everyone.
Give everyone tests for how much stress they're under, temperament, how many energy drinks they consume. Get brain scans, why should an insurance company be stuck with a hot head who's more liable to do something crazy? If you're unwilling to take those steps, it just sounds like you're angry because you find fat people less aesthetically pleasing. And we all know that couldn't possibly be it, this is assuredly genuine concern.
Give everyone tests for how much stress they're under, temperament, how many energy drinks they consume. Get brain scans, why should an insurance company be stuck with a hot head who's more liable to do something crazy? If you're unwilling to take those steps, it just sounds like you're angry because you find fat people less aesthetically pleasing. And we all know that couldn't possibly be it, this is assuredly genuine concern.
I think you're misreading this one. It seems to say the opposite of what you think it says. Unless you're trying to make some sort of a point by wilfully ignoring what the post is trying to say.
It seems they're worried about stress on the system, if we're going to start mandating health we should look into mandating birth, there are a lot of people who just straight up shouldn't be having kids but are, putting a strain on the system. Likewise we need to make sure people are getting jobs and don't wind up a drain on the economy so rather than allowing them to select their path, decide whether or not to go to university, decide what major to take, we can apply some tests and funnel them through the program that will result in the best job market for everyone.
shira
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You would be surprised how ineffective this is.
I can appreciate the frustration people feel when they see the morbidly obese continue to debilitate themselves by gorging, it's like seeing someone with a tracheal breathing hole smoke through it.
But it really doesn't feel like a mandated categorization and prevention of these people is... Right? I think that's the word to use. Obesity rates are improving in Canada and the US, due largely because of government and privately funded programs that look to educate the populous.
If government should intervene, it's in regulating foods to prevent companies from intentionally creating addictive foods.
But it really doesn't feel like a mandated categorization and prevention of these people is... Right? I think that's the word to use. Obesity rates are improving in Canada and the US, due largely because of government and privately funded programs that look to educate the populous.
If government should intervene, it's in regulating foods to prevent companies from intentionally creating addictive foods.
WanderingWind
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Nobody wants the government in their business, but you know, this social injustice is perfect for regulation.
And then people wonder why weed is illegal still.
And then people wonder why weed is illegal still.
Most fast food places I think use romaine. iceberg, and a mix of a bunch of other leafy greens which are about comparable to what you can get at a normal grocery. It still costs much more than if you order a cheeseburger or chicken sandwich at these places simply because of the quality of the meats and buns being used.
Tralfamadore64
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Stop spending three hours a day loudly smacking your greasy lips around cheeseburgers and ding dongs in front of me, and I'll be able to stop paying attention to what you're eating.
Here's the thing, and this is just an example, but when I have a man approach me for dieting advice because his doctor just told him that he's pre-diabetic and that his sleep apnea is due to his weight and then watch that same man throwing down on a double cheeseburger (that left the table greasy afterward) with a large order of fries dipped in ranch, yeah... it's hard not to pay attention.
TheDiabolical
I didn't read my own avatar and now everyone knows I'm not too bright. :(
agreed.
its the quantity of the food they consume not the type. if you had them switch to a happy meal instead of a normal combo meal weight gain wouldn't be so drastic.
also, im sure suicide rates would increase. imagine an obese customer getting denied a meal in front of other customers. surely that wouldn't help ones emotional state.
would the creator of this thread mind posting a pic of himself, we would like to see what perfect specimen looks like.
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