Should Fast Food joints have the right to withhold sale to obese people?

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I think most obese people will tell you they overeat because they're always hungry. To me this suggests a medical problem due to something new that's causing excessive hunger.

What sort of studies show this?

If it is true, why then did they overeat those larger portions for a long period of time? A normal person starts gagging when they put more food in their mouth.

This is dumb.

Look, just a little anecdotal evidence here, but watch:

I like big meals. It's nothing for me to throw down on 8-16 quarts of air popped popcorn or an overflowing plate of roasted veggies. These things stretch my stomach. When I sit down to eat shitty food, same as with healthy food, it takes more of that food to give me the feeling of fullness. When I consciously reduce my portion sizes, I notice that I get full more quickly after a few days of adjustment.

This is a common thing. This is how bellies work.

If you are suggesting that something was dropped into the water in the 80s to cause people to stay hungry, then you are a silly person.

What happened in the 80s was a combination of a massive increase in the availability of cheap, processed foods -- frozen dinners, fast foods, etc. all became much more readily available. Likewise, people became more sedentary as we entered the information age, taking hobbies that involved more sitting and taking jobs that involved more sitting. We still ate as though we were working the fields or the mines or what have you, but we were doing less than an hour's worth of activity over the course of a day, largely. It's natural -- you give an animal a lot of easy calories, and it will eat them.

So, at the national level, we feed ourselves like children, shoveling goopy, sugary, fatty foods down our big fat mouths, because it's the best tasting stuff, and because it's so CHEAP, we can easily get additional helpings. It takes a relatively long time for your body to process the fact that it's full, meaning if you're sitting around snacking on cookies or chips, it's very likely that you'll throw down a second or third helping if it's available, because your body doesn't yet know that it's hungry.

Two things happen very quickly:
1) The stomach expands, requiring these large quantities of food CONSISTENTLY to feel full, doubling or tripling daily caloric intake until a person is obese.

2) People get so used to the decadence of overeating that they think they NEED that much food and that they DESERVE it, and that they should have it EVERY SINGLE DAY. People overeat because the short term rewards are more satisfying than having to wait for the long term rewards of NOT overeating.

"A medical problem due to something new that's causing excessive hunger..."
Jesus fucking Christ, man.
 
there should be a fat tax on fast food.
that is all I'm gonna say..

i can see some bad things happening in this thread...

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That doesn't sound like a problem to me, everybody has to pay the tax, it's not a tax on fat people but unhealthy food, which is fine by me. I wouldn't limit it to fast food, I'd tax all the junk you can buy in supermarkets, all the soda, all the candy, everything.

I'd probably also tax food additives with negative health effects, preservatives and whatnot, I'd probably tax that even more heavily.
 
This is dumb.

Look, just a little anecdotal evidence here, but watch:

I like big meals. It's nothing for me to throw down on 8-16 quarts of air popped popcorn or an overflowing plate of roasted veggies. These things stretch my stomach. When I sit down to eat shitty food, same as with healthy food, it takes more of that food to give me the feeling of fullness. When I consciously reduce my portion sizes, I notice that I get full more quickly after a few days of adjustment.

This is a common thing. This is how bellies work.

If you are suggesting that something was dropped into the water in the 80s to cause people to stay hungry, then you are a silly person.

What happened in the 80s was a combination of a massive increase in the availability of cheap, processed foods -- frozen dinners, fast foods, etc. all became much more readily available. Likewise, people became more sedentary as we entered the information age, taking hobbies that involved more sitting and taking jobs that involved more sitting. We still ate as though we were working the fields or the mines or what have you, but we were doing less than an hour's worth of activity over the course of a day, largely. It's natural -- you give an animal a lot of easy calories, and it will eat them.

So, at the national level, we feed ourselves like children, shoveling goopy, sugary, fatty foods down our big fat mouths, because it's the best tasting stuff, and because it's so CHEAP, we can easily get additional helpings. It takes a relatively long time for your body to process the fact that it's full, meaning if you're sitting around snacking on cookies or chips, it's very likely that you'll throw down a second or third helping if it's available, because your body doesn't yet know that it's hungry.

Two things happen very quickly:
1) The stomach expands, requiring these large quantities of food CONSISTENTLY to feel full, doubling or tripling daily caloric intake until a person is obese.

2) People get so used to the decadence of overeating that they think they NEED that much food and that they DESERVE it, and that they should have it EVERY SINGLE DAY. People overeat because the short term rewards are more satisfying than having to wait for the long term rewards of NOT overeating.

"A medical problem due to something new that's causing excessive hunger..."
Jesus fucking Christ, man.

You've giving a lot of condescending text of how you think it works, but you're not providing scientific evidence.

I'm glad there are some scientists working to solve this problem.
http://wholehealthsource.blogspot.com/2011/10/case-for-food-reward-hypothesis-of_07.html
http://yourbrainonporn.com/food-and...ing-circuits-human-obesity-and-addiction-2011
http://www.nature.com/nrn/journal/v12/n11/full/nrn3105.html
 
I can appreciate the frustration people feel when they see the morbidly obese continue to debilitate themselves by gorging, it's like seeing someone with a tracheal breathing hole smoke through it.

But it really doesn't feel like a mandated categorization and prevention of these people is... Right? I think that's the word to use. Obesity rates are improving in Canada and the US, due largely because of government and privately funded programs that look to educate the populous.

If government should intervene, it's in regulating foods to prevent companies from intentionally creating addictive foods.

Pretty much this. On top of that, You would be hard pressed to find any fast food restaurant actually willing to refuse service to obese people.
 
You've giving a lot of condescending text of how you think it works, but you're not providing scientific evidence.

I'm glad there are some scientists working to solve this problem.
http://wholehealthsource.blogspot.com/2011/10/case-for-food-reward-hypothesis-of_07.html
http://yourbrainonporn.com/food-and...ing-circuits-human-obesity-and-addiction-2011
http://www.nature.com/nrn/journal/v12/n11/full/nrn3105.html

Yes. These articles appear to say that food is addictive. Believe me, I will read them more thoroughly later, but at a glance, they agree with what I've said. People are fat because they eat food, and they eat food because eating makes them feel good. This is nothing new, and it's related to the availability of bad foods, not some new disease, as you posit.
 
Yes. These articles appear to say that food is addictive. Believe me, I will read them more thoroughly later, but at a glance, they agree with what I've said. People are fat because they eat food, and they eat food because eating makes them feel good. This is nothing new, and it's related to the availability of bad foods, not some new disease, as you posit.

When you read them more thoroughly you'll see they successfully treat humans and rats by replacing their food with with bland feed. They tell the people, and let the rats continue to eat as much as they want to become satiated. Obese people will autonomously eat as little as 400 calories per day and not be hungry until they lose their fat while already lean people will autonomously eat about 2200 calories (maintenance). It talks in great detail about why they think this works by correcting the brain's regulation of food intake.

If you're a kid and you're bombarded with sugary food advertisements, go to a school with government endorsed junk food (juice, soda, cafeteria food, vending machines), and food recommendations have done nothing to suggest that healthy food is limiting engineered food reward, then you become an adult that has a disregulated metabolism. A medical problem that isn't knowingly self inflicted.

The brain regulates body fat and hunger, much like it regulates body temperature, sex drive, sleep, etc. How is a disregulated metabolism not a medical problem?

Now again this is hypothesis level stuff, but if you have other ideas that have evidence to support it by all means post it.
 
Stop spending three hours a day loudly smacking your greasy lips around cheeseburgers and ding dongs in front of me, and I'll be able to stop paying attention to what you're eating.

Here's the thing, and this is just an example, but when I have a man approach me for dieting advice because his doctor just told him that he's pre-diabetic and that his sleep apnea is due to his weight and then watch that same man throwing down on a double cheeseburger (that left the table greasy afterward) with a large order of fries dipped in ranch, yeah... it's hard not to pay attention.

I spend three hours a day loudly smacking my greasy lips around cheeseburgers and ding dongs in front of you. Right. That's clearly an accurate depiction of who I am and what I do.

Where the fuck are you that you would even be there to watch people eat fast food for three fucking hours? do you work at burger king?

I'll give you some advice though. Go see a shrink, because you seem to be a bit of a narcissist.
 
When you read them more thoroughly you'll see they successfully treat humans and rats by replacing their food with with bland feed. They tell the people, and let the rats continue to eat as much as they want to become satiated. Obese people will autonomously eat as little as 400 calories per day and not be hungry until they lose their fat while already lean people will autonomously eat about 2200 calories (maintenance). It talks in great detail about why they think this works by correcting the brain's regulation of food intake.

If you're a kid and you're bombarded with sugary food advertisements, go to a school with government endorsed junk food (juice, soda, cafeteria food, vending machines), and food recommendations have done nothing to suggest that healthy food is limiting engineered food reward, then you become an adult that has a disregulated metabolism. A medical problem that isn't knowingly self inflicted.

The brain regulates body fat and hunger, much like it regulates body temperature, sex drive, sleep, etc. How is a disregulated metabolism not a medical problem?

Now again this is hypothesis level stuff, but if you have other ideas that have evidence to support it by all means post it.

No, I agree with all of that, and if you want somebody to agree with you that people have bad food thrust upon them in most sectors of life, then, yes, I agree with you. I think that there IS a lot that needs to be adjusted in terms of how responsible our schools are to ensure that kids do not eat garbage. I live in Huntington, WV -- the town that is so fat and unhealthy that J. Oliver felt the need to swoop in and save us from ourselves, but that went over as poorly as could be expected.

Food is addictive. Eating foods -- especially fats and sugars -- makes our brains do silly things to make us feel good. I know that. That's known.

But it's also no secret that certain foods are bad. While there is a lot of confusion over the specifics of what is good or bad for you (examples include a) thinking that turkey versions of food are somehow better than non-turkey versions, b) that salads are healthy no matter what, c) what exactly terms like "reduced fat" and "sugar free" and "gluten free" mean for a person's nutritional intake), it is still common knowledge that certain things are bad for you.

I do not have a completed survey at hand, but I SUSPECT (rightfully so, I'd wager) that if you were to ask any number of people at random whether excess sugar, excess fat, or fast food were bad for them, most people would say yes, it is. This is something we know.

So while I'm sympathetic to the power of addiction, I feel obligated to state the obvious:

No person with an addiction is in total a victim with no responsibility in their situation.

While people develop physical addictions to a variety of things, they also tend to know, at least to some extent, that these things are a) addictive and b) dangerous before starting. But they make a decision. While I feel for those suffering with addiction, it does not change the fact that they are addicted because they made an initial choice. At the point that you are an adult with freedom of choice and access to nearly infinite amounts of information regarding diet and physiology, you are accountable for your decisions. It is as simple as that. Addiction is hard, but it is the choice and the responsibility of the addicted to make a change.

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I think that's where you and I are disagreeing: what self-inflicted means. I am willing to meet you half-way and agree that what children are exposed to at schools is 100% wrong and inexcusable, and that through the constant exposure to cheap, unhealthy foods, they are developing unhealthy relationships to the very act of eating. Cafeteria reform is necessary.

HOWEVER

Each person has a choice. If you are fat, and you are okay with being fat, that is fine. If you are fat, and there are people who do everything they can to help you and to educate you and to keep you motivated and confident, yet you still make the decision regularly to consume raunchy ranch fries and loaded potato skins and liters of cola, then you have nobody to blame for your weight but yourself.

I do not hate fat people. Nor do I hate alcoholics or those addicted to narcotics or anything else. But I do believe that if they want change in their lives that it must come from within. I've seen people go through rehab and succeed, and I've seen them go through and fail, and when they fail, it is because they make a decision to succumb to weakness.
 
I spend three hours a day loudly smacking my greasy lips around cheeseburgers and ding dongs in front of you. Right. That's clearly an accurate depiction of who I am and what I do.

Where the fuck are you that you would even be there to watch people eat fast food for three fucking hours? do you work at burger king?

I'll give you some advice though. Go see a shrink, because you seem to be a bit of a narcissist.

I work as a paramedic in a job requiring that I work twenty-four hour shifts, meaning I live with the people I work with, essentially, and that I am generally in the same room with them as they eat their daily meals, meaning I am in the room with them while they are consuming fast food. That was all. I was using a general "you", not speaking to you in particular. Perhaps I should have gone with "one". I apologize for offending YOU, squidyj.

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I do want to clarify one thing: I have never been morbidly obese, but I have been through a phase in my life where I put on a great deal of weight. After maintaining a weight of around 170 throughout high school and much of college, around the time I was 23 I put on a ton of weight, rocketing up to around 220-225 at maximum. It was because I ate mostly cheese fries and drank a ton of soda. I made a decision to lose the weight, and I had to work my ass off to drop it, running and eating less food and healthier food until I was down to 157.

Now, in the past two years, I've put on another 30 pounds, and it's because I stopped running while I was juggling school and two jobs, and because I started allowing myself to consume Wendy's and Taco Bell and pizza and ice cream more regularly, forgetting that I wasn't working out enough to offset that. So I made those decisions, and now I'm back up to around 190, and I feel like crap most of the time because my fitness level has plummeted. I crave fast food constantly, and a lot of times I'll find excuses to eat it, telling myself I don't have time to cook or that "it's just this once," and so I understand that it's addictive, and I understand the mental acrobatics people perform to convince themselves that it's okay to eat this stuff.

It just doesn't change the fact that I got fat, and that it was my own fault, that I became very fit through hard work, determination, and a constant struggle to not succumb to my urges to eat bad foods, or that I got fat again because I stopped making the right decisions.

I realize that I come across as condescending, but I don't intend to. My tone tends to read that way. I just have a difficult time listening to people who seem to suffer from victim complexes without feeling a little aggravated.
 
If fast food wasn't so cheap, readily available, filled with pink slime and other great shit for our bodies it wouldn't be part of the obesity problem. That said who the hell is anyone, as a Fast Food employee to determine what someone is allowed to eat. As a society we shouldn't cut people off from unhealthy foods, we should provide healthier and cheaper alternatives and stop HFCS subsidies. Agribusiness is the real target, and yet people want to marginalize overweight/obese people. The amount of shit in our food that basically induces fat growth is scary and it's not just in fast food either. Got a problem with all those obese people? Start voting with your own wallet too, especially if you can afford it. Buy local, buy fresh, start hitting up your local farmer's markets. Go to the store and look at the back of anything you happen to buy if it's got HFCS or transfat (partially hydrogenated oil) put it back. Not so easy now is it? If you want to be judgmental you might want to take a look at what's actually being sold to all of us.

And yes people could just sustain themselves on veggies, fruits and cooking at home but food companies and fast food retailers could also make real food sans hormones and other harmful additives. The fact that people would rather fat shame then get to the heart of the real problem is always depressing. Individual choice is only as good as your options sometimes, and if we don't provide enough options, when we clearly can, we have no right to inflict our judgment on those who pick "wrong" in our minds.

I was lucky enough to be born skinny, in the bay area and with a mother who's a health nut and has long been on a no soda, no fastfood, no hfcs, no transfat trip for years. I've always been into sports but I got really lazy in college. Instead of gaining weight I lost it because I wasn't consuming enough calories to keep weight on. Most people don't have this problem, and some even scoff at it. My weight loss was my fault but I thought about the inverse, if everything I ate threw on pounds I couldn't shed and how much more troublesome that would be. "Fat" people aren't something to hate, laugh or even pity. They're fucking people struggling just like I was and instead of deriding them why not ask yourself what you're consuming? Is it as healthy as can be? How expensive is it? Was it easy to find? Is it talked about beyond health guru media? If not ask yourself why and instead of hating on people for their size and being a judgmental asshole, use that energy to get HFCS and other shit out of your food.
 
I work as a paramedic.

Seeing as how you work as a paramedic, I am rather surprised that you think weight gain is simply of matter of food in (be it of poor quality or large quantity). I don't think you are taking the other factors that influence weight gain into account whatsoever. As I mentioned earlier, the time in my life when I was at my heaviest was actually when I was eating less food in general and all of it was considered healthy. Of course, this period was also after I became seriously ill and was regurgitating most of what I would eat. I was keeping in far less than I was actually ingesting, yet I was gaining weight at an exponential rate. I was ballooning up when I most certainly should not have been. To add to this, I was also doing a lot more exercise than I normally would have been because it felt so much better than just laying in my bed and vomiting my guts out.

My body's chemistry had been altered by the myriad of medications I was prescribed. In addition to that, I was also undergoing a huge amount of stress due to the mysterious nature of my illness. Those are just a couple reasons why a person may gain a large amount of weight in a short period of time. Now, am I saying what you eat has no effect whatsoever on how much you weigh? Not at all. I am just pointing out that one can find themselves at a relatively large size due to things entirely outside of their control.
 
The problem is that fast food is not "bad" for you. Once in a while it feels good to have a burger and it's not unhealthy. The problem is if you start eating fast food every day or too much.

People should be educated before the fast food can ban obese clients.
 
Seeing as how you work as a paramedic, I am rather surprised that you think weight gain is simply of matter of food in (be it of poor quality or large quantity). I don't think you are taking the other factors that influence weight gain into account whatsoever. As I mentioned earlier, the time in my life when I was at my heaviest was actually when I was eating less food in general and all of it was considered healthy. Of course, this period was also after I became seriously ill and was regurgitating most of what I would eat. I was keeping in far less than I was actually ingesting, yet I was gaining weight at an exponential rate. I was ballooning up when I most certainly should not have been. To add to this, I was also doing a lot more exercise than I normally would have been because it felt so much better than just laying in my bed and vomiting my guts out.

My body's chemistry had been altered by the myriad of medications I was prescribed. In addition to that, I was also undergoing a huge amount of stress due to the mysterious nature of my illness. Those are just a couple reasons why a person may gain a large amount of weight in a short period of time. Now, am I saying what you eat has no effect whatsoever on how much you weigh? Not at all. I am just pointing out that one can find themselves at a relatively large size due to things entirely outside of their control.

I feel I should further clarify. First, if I seem hostile, I do not intend to. Really. I think my tendency to respond at length adds to the perception that I'm obsessed and ranting, when in reality it is only how I speak. I also realize that I was out of line in my phrasing a number of times, and I apologize.

In my first response I did pay lip service to situations where weight gain is affected by factors other than caloric intake. Of course, there are diseases and conditions where people's metabolic rates slow down or where they may process insulin differently. Of course, when there are stressors placed on the body, the body tends to react by storing more energy as fat because it is in a sort of panic mode. And, of course, there are myriad medications that can cause increased appetite, changes in metabolism/insulin utilization, water retention, etc. Of course all of those things are factors, and when we see them, we should be concerned, because in those cases weight gain should be taken as a signal that the body is not functioning ideally.

I also want to reiterate that I do not hate fat people. But seeing people who are severely obese makes me sad. It breaks my hear to see children that are too fat to play, and it makes me sad to live in a town where poverty and ignorance cause people to make terribly unhealthy life choices. My heart goes out to these people, and I try to help where I can, but it can be frustrating, which is where much of my negative tone came from before.

But my basic point stands (excepting where very, very RARE situations may dictate otherwise): regardless of HOW our body processes the food we eat, it is the food we eat and ONLY the food we eat that provides the body with the necessary materials to create fat. If your body burns 2000 calories a day, regardless of how those calories are being burned or why they are being burned at a specific rate, then you need to eat 2000 calories a day to maintain your weight. If you instead eat 4000 calories a day, which is very easy to do if you eat fast food three times a day, then you will get fat. If your body is sick and it is slowing its metabolism for some reason and is only burning a thousand calories a day, then 2000 calories a day will cause you to gain weight. The food we eat provides the raw materials for our physiological processes, and the TYPES of food we eat often determine how well those processes operate.

While there are exceptions to the rule, this is a simple fact: If you lead a sedentary lifestyle, spending most of your time on a couch staring at a television (this is an objective observation of many people, not an assumption) and eating fatty, sugary, calorie dense foods frequently (likewise), then you will gain weight, and over a long enough time span, you will become obese. If you want to lose weight but you fail to make changes to your diet or activity level, then you will not lose weight.

All bizarre nuances aside, this is how food works. This is why if you do not control a pet's intake, for instance, it will tend to eat and eat and eat and eat, making for a very obese dog or cat. If you feed a fish constantly because you are bored and you like watching the fish eat, the fish will tend to overeat as well. Likewise with people who -- given the option of buying cheap, delicious calories and eating them whenever they feel like it because the amount of work involved in getting food is disproportionate to the amount of food being consumed -- when these people eat too much, they become fat. The difference is that people can make choices whereas animals cannot.

Of COURSE there are people who contend with weight fluctuations because of circumstances beyond their control, but we must not confuse possibilities with reality. Having a thyroid condition can make you fat, but getting fat does not always mean you have a thyroid condition, for instance. That's all I'm driving at.

So my frustration is not with the sick or those with literally no choice in what they eat (although having grown up poor you will never convince me that poor people have to eat fast food because it is cheap, because it is still possible to maintain a modicum of healthiness while avoiding fast foods and not breaking the bank), nor is it with those who are honestly trying to lose weight but failing. My frustration is with those people who make choices about what they eat while refusing to make changes and then want to be pitied or catered to because they are fat. My frustration is with the general trend in segments of America toward laziness and gluttony that is not only related to obesity, but is indicative of larger social problem wherein we want the rewards without the work, and it saddens me. It is possible to lose weight without torturing yourself. I've seen it. I've accomplished it. But you have to want to take the time to make changes.
 
No, let them eat what they want. It's no one other than the person in question responsible to eat healthy/take care of themselves. I'm sick of people thinking EVERYONE but the people themselves should be responsible. I mean at what point does personal responsibility come into play?
 
Like anything, the portion size needs to be controlled as well. It's best to use a small plate because when you get a big plate you feel like you have to cover it with food for some reason.

No they shouldn't stop people from eating there (and they wouldn't because then they would lose business) but they should just try to make it a lot more healthier too. Offer more alternatives and stuff.
 
I was keeping in far less than I was actually ingesting, yet I was gaining weight at an exponential rate. I was ballooning up when I most certainly should not have been. To add to this, I was also doing a lot more exercise than I normally would have been because it felt so much better than just laying in my bed and vomiting my guts out.

I am sorry to offend Irish but I will use your statement as en example in a scenario as what you are saying does not seem make sense to me. If it did then I would probably use your body as some kind of perpetual motion machine to get energy out of nowhere saving us from the enslavement that is fossil fuels. For your body to produce fat at an exponential rate then you will have to find something to fuel this production. You would have to be a complete sloth never really getting out of bed and eating twice the amount of calories to produce fat at an exponential rate like you say. I am not saying it is impossible as we haven't solved the mysteries of energy but magic is not an excuse in your case.

My body's chemistry had been altered by the myriad of medications I was prescribed. In addition to that, I was also undergoing a huge amount of stress due to the mysterious nature of my illness. Those are just a couple reasons why a person may gain a large amount of weight in a short period of time. Now, am I saying what you eat has no effect whatsoever on how much you weigh? Not at all. I am just pointing out that one can find themselves at a relatively large size due to things entirely outside of their control.

Unless the medication they were giving you was made of pure fat I would wonder where you were getting the calories from to make the fat that you said made you gain so much weight. I can understand you being bloated with liquids if you had a higher concentration of salts in your body but that kind of weight gain can be lost very quickly when you body becomes more diluted and have less concentrated liquids.

I will not disagree that you knew that you were "eating less" (in volume) you most likely were, but I will speculate that you were eating more in calories with foods that were very calorie and nutrition dense or "healthy".

1.365 kg of raw cabbage has about 300 calories.
1 ham and cheese sandwich also has about 300 calories.

Without worrying about taste which one would make you very full? I doubt you could even finish the cabbage in one sitting.

You were saying you were eating less yet gaining more here is a guideline of what would happen.

lets just say you were

height 175cm
neck 40cm
waist 98cm
85 kilos

25% body fat

You would need about 2500 calories just to maintain your weight if you were a person that led a sedentary life (work at an office, drive around in a car, no exercise)

for you to gain fat very quickly for example you would have to go above the normal amount of calories you would need just to maintain your current weight. If you ate 100 calories a day more than you normally would for your weight (11ml of olive for example) it would take about three months for you to gain a kilo of fat and in a year you would be four kilos heavier just because you started to splash a little extra olive oil than you normally would on your salad for lunch.

Yes the heavier you get the more calories you need but it is not as much as people think. If you were sedentary, for you to need 2600 calories you would have to be 92kg which is 7kg heavier. This works out to be around 14 calories extra needed to be consumed per kg heavier than your current weight of 85 kilos which is about 4 peanuts. If you were eating 114 calories more for every kilo of weight you gain to have this 100 calorie surplus that gets turned into fat you would be 4 kilos heavier 12 months later. If you ate a 200 calorie surplus then you would be 8kgs heavier and if you ate a 400 calorie surplus you would be 16kg heavier in just one year.

I am aware that not all your food gets turned into fat as your body has to be able to process all of the nutrients and none of it gets wasted going out in the toilet which is impossible but this is an extreme ideal situation to help out Irish's scenario of "exponential" weight gain. 400 calories extra per day doesn't sound much as that only equates to a McDonalds Southwest Salad with Grilled Chicken with a splash of Newman’s Own Low Fat Sesame Ginger Dressing, However if you were already eating the calories that you needed from foods that did not make you full but were high in calories then you would start to think that you were magically gaining weight.

Now, am I saying what you medicate yourself with has no effect whatsoever on how much you weigh? Not at all. I am just pointing out that one can find themselves at a relatively large size due to things entirely inside of their control.

That, or you were severely constipated.
 
Pretty sure most private businesses have the right to choose who they contract with. Whether or not your friend can deal with the consequences is different.
 
Severely constipated, obviously. I guess saying stuff like exponential weight gain and ballooning up was a little dishonest. I didn't gain some three hundred pounds or anything like that and for those who have, medication isn't what got you there. Additionally, I lost the weight after having been taken off the meds once I was done throwing up. Didn't change any of the other habits though.

Of course, I was clearly, as we have already determined, full of shit. Literally. In any event, my example wasn't some end-all, be-all explanation for everything. Merely a curiosity that had little to do with the thread. I was mainly talking about relatively small weight gains (that admittedly seemed large to me at the time), which doesn't end up with a person being severely obese.
 
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