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I got a free Sky Captain preview DVD from Best Buy on Tuesday with trailers and a behind the scenes feature. It's interesting how, in the behind-the-scenes bit, the things people would dump on George Lucas for (putting his actors on blue screen sets with nothing to react to, assembling the movie on a computer) are being extolled as a fantastic, fun way to make a movie by the Sky Captain actors.

Jude Law talks about his blue screen work, "Reminding me of when I was playing as a kid, and the couch was my spaceship, and the TV set was an alien." I hope Sky Captain's director somehow manages to elicit better performances from his actors than Lucas did.
 

Willco

Hollywood Square
Lucky Forward said:
I got a free Sky Captain preview DVD from Best Buy on Tuesday with trailers and a behind the scenes feature. It's interesting how, in the behind-the-scenes bit, the things people would dump on George Lucas for (putting his actors on blue screen sets with nothing to react to, assembling the movie on a computer) are being extolled as a fantastic, fun way to make a movie by the Sky Captain actors.

I think there's a reason for this. Star Wars has always been a serious science fiction soap opera, albeit with a select bit of camp. Sky Captain is a campy, colorful comic book of 50's inspiration and the whole flick is tongue-in-cheek apparently. I think some of the physical disconnection from other actors probably helps the film capture that 'ole serials feel with the overacting actors.

I think George Lucas wanted to evolve Star Wars into that, a throwback to those old serials, but his first trilogy is so much more and all the change pisses off fans. Plus, it doesn't help his scripts are shit. I don't want to watch a movie about politics and blockades, but goddamn giant robots and underwater fights and shit looks awesome!

Jude Law talks about his blue screen work, "Reminding me of when I was playing as a kid, and the couch was my spaceship, and the TV set was an alien." I hope Sky Captain's director somehow manages to elicit better performances from his actors than Lucas did.

I hear the movie is a fantastic ride, but the plot is shaky. And that's something to be expected, though.
 

Dan

No longer boycotting the Wolfenstein franchise
Lucky Forward said:
I got a free Sky Captain preview DVD from Best Buy on Tuesday with trailers and a behind the scenes feature. It's interesting how, in the behind-the-scenes bit, the things people would dump on George Lucas for (putting his actors on blue screen sets with nothing to react to, assembling the movie on a computer) are being extolled as a fantastic, fun way to make a movie by the Sky Captain actors.

Jude Law talks about his blue screen work, "Reminding me of when I was playing as a kid, and the couch was my spaceship, and the TV set was an alien." I hope Sky Captain's director somehow manages to elicit better performances from his actors than Lucas did.
That's funny, because I've read a lot of less-than-official accounts of how the actors ending up despising working on the film. I recall reading that some of them even tried to get out of their contractual obligations to promote the movie.

Does anyone really expect the absolute truth when they're discussing the film on an official promotional DVD? I mean, Ewan McGregor speaks kindly of his Star Wars experiences when promoting the films, but get him talking to a random Scottish newspaper a few months after the last flick opened, and well, you'll get quite a different story.
 

Trevelyon

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Sky Captain & The World of Tomorrow
Release dates
Cinema: 9 Dec 2004

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Willco

Hollywood Square
MrAngryFace said:
ELLO! I HAVE EN EYE PATCHEEE CUP UH TEA!

Goddamit. MAF wins the new FIRST PERSON TO MAKE WILL COUGH UP A BURGER ON KEYBOARD AWARD. Now it smells like stomach acid and burger and provolone cheese.
 
Dan said:
That's funny, because I've read a lot of less-than-official accounts of how the actors ending up despising working on the film. I recall reading that some of them even tried to get out of their contractual obligations to promote the movie.
I'm not too surprised to hear that. I mean, it looks like virtually every scene in the movie was done on a blue screen set. I can't imagine the actors being really keen on that.


Does anyone really expect the absolute truth when they're discussing the film on an official promotional DVD? I mean, Ewan McGregor speaks kindly of his Star Wars experiences when promoting the films, but get him talking to a random Scottish newspaper a few months after the last flick opened, and well, you'll get quite a different story.
Yeah, that reminds me of how in DVD commentaries and extras, the director is always a genius, every actor really gave their all, and they had the best, most talented crew ever.
 

dorikyasu

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MrAngryFace said:
ELLO! I HAVE EN EYE PATCHEEE CUP UH TEA!
:lol
Speaking of which... Why is Angelina Jolie keeps getting typecasted as British? Is that because she has such amazing skill to speak with fake accent?
 

Makura

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I love the design. Reminds me of the old Superman cartoons. I actually thought it was a Crimson Skies movie the first time I saw the ad.
 
I hate the preview: Warty midget said only one thing. Tugncough. Then planes come and robots and lara croft looks all clever at the main character as the knowing british war hero/mercenary 'what ave ye goh me unto dis dime chahhlie?!"

I keep threatening to take people to see it. They do what I say!
 
I'm a total indie film elitist, and I plan on seeing this.

It is funny about the all digital backdrop stuff, every review I've read in the papers here in Seattle absolutely love it, but trashed the prequels for the exact same thing.
 

FoneBone

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God, haven't some of you heard of keeping an open mind? I mean, I, Robot looked like shit from the trailers, and that turned out... passably, I guess. (But a lot of GAFers seem to have liked it more than I did). And it scored a hell of a lot lower on RT.
 

Triumph

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dorikyasu said:
:lol
Speaking of which... Why is Angelina Jolie keeps getting typecasted as British? Is that because she has such amazing skill to speak with fake accent?
I think it has something to do with her knockers, meself.
 

Dan

No longer boycotting the Wolfenstein franchise
FoneBone said:
And it scored a hell of a lot lower on RT.
RT scores don't mean anything more than revealing the percentage of mainstream critics that thought the film was more good than bad. The score has nothing to do with the magnitude of greatness or crappiness of the film. A movie could get a 100% and not receive a single impressive review and just a whole bunch of "meh, it's better than other recent movies." It's not like GameRankings where they're averaging scores, which is also flawed in and of itself.
 

Jak140

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Well actually if you look at the top of the page, it's averaging a score of 7.1 out of 10.0 right now, which is pretty good.

BTW, I think this movie looks great. The robot designs remind me of the ones from Laputa: Castle in the Sky.

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MetatronM

Unconfirmed Member
I can't stand looking at Sky Captain. When you make actual human beings look fake, you know there is a problem.
 

Drensch

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I can't wait. The studio has manged to correct a lot of the problems they had with earlier, marketing-release date etc. I still see issues with mainstream audiences, but it will do a lot better now than in July.
 

=W=

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It helps to think of it as a cartoon. I bet if this were all hand drawn you people would be all over it. I see no difference. Just a different means to the same entertaining end.
 

etiolate

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It helps to think of it as a cartoon. I bet if this were all hand drawn you people would be all over it. I see no difference. Just a different means to the same entertaining end.

I was going to post something like this. People have no issue with Roger Rabbit, but go apeshit over this and Star Wars.
 

Blacklion

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Just came from the sneak preview.
It was @ a drive in Thearte.... decked out 50's style with classic cars on display.... Cartoons and a Three Stooges short that was produced during WWII was also shown B4 the movie.

The film it'self.... IMO ........ I REally REally liked it ... weak plot (understood) but it never took it's self seriously and the cast was VERY charming.
The visuals were on the money.

My idea of a popcorn flick if there ever was one.
 

Shinobi

Member
Lucky Forward said:
Yeah, that reminds me of how in DVD commentaries and extras, the director is always a genius, every actor really gave their all, and they had the best, most talented crew ever.

:lol And you don't believe them?!?



=W= said:
It helps to think of it as a cartoon. I bet if this were all hand drawn you people would be all over it. I see no difference. Just a different means to the same entertaining end.

Agreed...if it was anime style it'd be seen as some sort of fucking event.


It'll probably do average business long term...I'm looking at 70 to 80 mill. No idea what the budget is, so I don't know how good or bad that is. Paltrow's been making the rounds promoting this movie all over the place (and looking quite lovely while doing so...man does she have a nice set of legs).
 

MrCheez

President/Creative Director of Grumpyface Studios
I can't believe how many people (on this forum and people I've talked to in real life) roll their eyes at this movie. Everyone I talk to just responds with "It looks stupid" or "weird".

God, do people want every freaking movie to be the same? The movie looks unique and stylish to me.
 

3phemeral

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MrCheez said:
I can't believe how many people (on this forum and people I've talked to in real life) roll their eyes at this movie. Everyone I talk to just responds with "It looks stupid" or "weird".

God, do people want every freaking movie to be the same? The movie looks unique and stylish to me.


Agreed. :)
 

Dan

No longer boycotting the Wolfenstein franchise
MrCheez said:
The movie looks unique and stylish to me.
Yeah, but is the plot any good? Am I going to give a rat's ass about the characters or what happens in the film? That's what ultimately makes a film good. I've seen plenty of visually stylish and cool films that haven't had any substance, and that's not what makes a good film. And in a lot of early reviews there were complaints about the plot, so... color me skeptical.
 

Pimpwerx

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Plot's supposed to suck, but who gives a shit? This movie has been promoted as eye candy, and that's why I'm going to go see it. If you expect every movie to be Shakespear (who's way overrated as well), then you should probably steer clear. Now, if this movie fails on visuals, then I'll be disappointed. But so far it looks good. PEACE.
 
Saw the novel. Saw the pictures of the film inside the novel. Instantly thought of Rocket Ranger in Cinemaware's golden days, decreed to see the film at all costs. Read the novel. Decided it would make a much better film than novel. Going to see it at all costs.
 

SteveMeister

Hang out with Steve.
Dan said:
RT scores don't mean anything more than revealing the percentage of mainstream critics that thought the film was more good than bad. The score has nothing to do with the magnitude of greatness or crappiness of the film. A movie could get a 100% and not receive a single impressive review and just a whole bunch of "meh, it's better than other recent movies." It's not like GameRankings where they're averaging scores, which is also flawed in and of itself.

That's why it's good that they added the average rating out of 10 points for each movie. The tomatometer reading is subjective, based on RT's staff's estimation of whether a particular review is "positive" or "negative", while the average rating shows the general overall consensus of how "good" the movie actually is.
 

FoneBone

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Spectral Glider said:
Saw the novel. Saw the pictures of the film inside the novel. Instantly thought of Rocket Ranger in Cinemaware's golden days, decreed to see the film at all costs. Read the novel. Decided it would make a much better film than novel. Going to see it at all costs.
You read a novelization?
 

FoneBone

Member
SteveMeister said:
That's why it's good that they added the average rating out of 10 points for each movie. The tomatometer reading is subjective, based on RT's staff's estimation of whether a particular review is "positive" or "negative", while the average rating shows the general overall consensus of how "good" the movie actually is.
To be honest, I'm not convinced that that system is much better, given that it often necessitates assigning somewhat arbitrary scores to reviews that were never intended to have them.
 
The two Seattle newspapers have completely different views on this film. The PI thought it was pointless and only enjoyable for small boys, whereas the Times thought it was a good popcorn film.

They both loved Innocence: Ghost in the Shell 2, surprisingly.
 

FoneBone

Member
Spectral Glider said:
Yeah, saw the book on display in Barnes and Noble about 2 months ago or so.
It's just that I find novelizations to be utterly painful reading (and that's based only on flipping through a few). It's tough to believe that people actually buy them.
 

MrCheez

President/Creative Director of Grumpyface Studios
Dan said:
Yeah, but is the plot any good? Am I going to give a rat's ass about the characters or what happens in the film? That's what ultimately makes a film good. I've seen plenty of visually stylish and cool films that haven't had any substance, and that's not what makes a good film. And in a lot of early reviews there were complaints about the plot, so... color me skeptical.

Of course that is important, but people are shrugging the film and not giving it a chance just after seeing the trailer, and the reason they are doing so (from the people who have told me) is because of how it looks. This behavior is what is making me raise an eyebrow. =/
 

hiryu

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I've been anticipating this for a long time. Can't wait for tonight. I hope it does well enough to be franchised.
 
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