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[Orayn]

This 5 point scale is so fucking dumb. So, there are games with 80% score, and right after we can only see 100%?

It's a better system because it's so much less granular. Could you honestly tell me the difference between a 8.25 game and an 8.75 game with any degree of consistency?

 

[ThaiGrocer]

Fun fact according to my logs Feep never even played the game he doesn't even own an Wii, thus his review is biased and wrong 10/10 best Zelda ever.

Blood lust. Pure blood lust. You were the nicest guy before the embargo lifted.

Spoiler

lol

 

[TheExplodingHead]

I'm personally pretty excited to play the Mines, nothing like great new Nintendo design. Can anyone comment on the depth of the enemies/combat? Is there a good mix between defensive and offensive strategy?

Other than that I'm out, don't really care about reviews and I've pretty much seen the best of this. See you guy's in the OT!

 

[Thunder Monkey]

I'm the authority on all things Zelda. Trust me.

With my life.

 

[Diprosalic]

This 5 point scale is so fucking dumb. So, there are games with 80% score, and right after we can only see 100%?

no it's not, it's sites like meta critic who are dumb.

 

[ShockingAlberto]

Fun fact according to my logs Feep never even played the game he doesn't even own an Wii, thus his review is biased and wrong 10/10 best Zelda ever.

I have it on good authority that making a video game has killed all of Feep's imagination so even if he wanted to write a review of a game he has never played, he is no longer capable of doing so.

 

[Biggest-Geek-Ever]

Fun fact according to my logs Feep never even played the game he doesn't even own an Wii, thus his review is biased and wrong 10/10 best Zelda ever.

You mean 5/5, broseppi.

It. Is. Not. The. Same. Thing.

 

[cajunator]

Fun fact according to my logs Feep never even played the game he doesn't even own an Wii, thus his review is biased and wrong 10/10 best Zelda ever.

I dont give a shiiiittttt. I want My moe Zelda gameeeeee.

 

[Medalion]

I cannot wait to see this thread in the morning, have fun

 

[Gummb]

Of course not.

I kind if wish I had, though. I would have 2/5 or 3/5'ed that shit, I'm totally serious.

Well then, there you go... that guy's comment makes a lot of sense. Obviously you're a horrible person for not reviewing every game ever made for G4.

 

[KefkaTaran]

It's interesting to compare the opening paragraphs of IGN's reviews for SS and TP.

I read a lot of older Zelda reviews before writing mine -- GI and otherwise -- and tried hard to avoid that kind of hyperbole for the very reason that I think it tends to look really silly when you look back on it.

Hey Kefka,

How do you feel about some of the criticisms other reviewers have given the game, considering you gave it a 10.

Would like Nintendo to expand upon this new Zelda formula for their next console title?

I brought up in my review that there are certain elements I could tell some gamers will dislike, so I'm not surprised that there's some variation in opinions. Most of the complaints seem both valid and well-argued enough but were just very minor in the long run for me. The one complaint I will say I don't understand at all is the motion control thing. The controls worked perfectly for me and actually enhanced the experience greatly. They were a big part of why I felt it deserves a 10.

re: expanding -- I wouldn't necessarily call it a "new Zelda formula" -- mostly I'm just glad they tried some new things, and I hope that whatever/whenever the next console Zelda game is, they continue being unafraid to try new stuff. I hope that some 8/10s don't cause them to fall back on trying to make another Ocarina of Time clone (as much as I still dig Twilight Princess).

I basically started my career by lambasting Game Informer's review structure because of their Paper Mario 2 review.

It seems weird to see, years later, reviews that I do not find offensive.

It's been a long time, and the people who did that review haven't worked at GI for almost as long. Happy to hear that, though, really.

 

[ThatObviousUser]

I have it on good authority that making a video game has killed all of Feep's imagination so even if he wanted to write a review of a game he has never played, he is no longer capable of doing so.

We must find the REAL reviewer so we can burn HIS house down!

 

[ShockingAlberto]

no it's not, it's sites like meta critic who are dumb.

We should start a metacritic that only judges on half-scores

Meta-Metacritic

4/5 = 40/50 total possible score

Scales above 5 are not allowed or we allow them and give them insane, random values like a 10/10 being a 500/50.

 

[Kjellson]

Spoiler

It does not. There is VERY little world content in general, my biggest complaint regarding the game.

That's disappointing. Thanks though.

 

[BY2K]

Welp, going to sleep, see you guys in a few hours. (Or not, if you get banned.)

 

[Thunder Monkey]

I have it on good authority that making a video game has killed all of Feep's imagination so even if he wanted to write a review of a game he has never played, he is no longer capable of doing so.

Yeah and smashing a bottle of beer on his head.

 

[ThaiGrocer]

Ruh roh. Metascore is down to 95. Anything below that, it'll be a new record for console Zelda.

 

[Orayn]

EDIT
Also, it's 95 with 17 reviews now

"ABANDON HOPE, ALL YE WHO ENTER HERE."

 

[Feep]

We must find the REAL reviewer so we can burn HIS house down!

Uh, y...yeah, that's right. Exactly.

 

[Nintaiyo]

Lately, I kind of feel like game criticism is heading towards a turning point. Yeah, you can talk about the ridiculous Uncharted 3 debacle, but on the whole, I feel like fans rage less over "good" reviews, and media outlets are less afraid of giving simply "good" reviews. Now, I don't have any hard numbers to back any of this up, but I feel the average Metacritic scores of big blockbuster games is lower compared to previous years. Of course, maybe the games are just plain worse, or we're experiencing franchise fatigue as we drudge further on through this console cycle. Or maybe, just maybe, reviewers are shying away from the 8-10 scale. I also also feel that more and more outlets are leaning towards review scales with less granularity, which results in less fans arguing over the petty differences between a 92 and 93. Or who knows, maybe the 'average' Internet-going video game enthusiast has just grown up. I remember the dumb shit I used to write on the Nsider forums when I was a teenager. Sometimes, you just grow out of it. And in some cases, time is the only cure.

 

[krYlon]

Hmmm, interesting mix of reviews. Makes me want to play the game even more to see what the game really is like.

You know the one which really stands out? The 10 from Metro. Those guys are really hard to please, harder than Edge.
I think they've only given out 2 or 3 10s before this.

 

[GamerSoul]

Wow it got some good to great scores. Time to read.

 

[cajunator]

Oh noes. Not a 95. that's failing in most schools!

 

[spekkeh]

Eurogamer y u no publish. Them and Edge are usually my most trusted sites.

 

[Thunder Monkey]

Uh, y...yeah, that's right. Exactly.

Why is EatChildren trying to kill you, and Alberto sullying your precious name?

Did you make Zelda fans mad?

 

[AniHawk]

Ruh roh. Metascore is down to 95. Anything below that, it'll be a new record for console Zelda.

how the hell did the wind waker get such a high aggregate score? was everyone still riding on oot's ootness in 2003?

Spoiler

i know i was. i even said it was better than oot when i beat it, but that was pretty much all thanks to the excellent finale, in hindsight

 

[pramath]

Ruh roh. Metascore is down to 95. Anything below that, it'll be a new record for console Zelda.

So is a 94 going to be that bad? I'd be okay with that.
THe problem would be if it fell anywhere below that.

 

[KefkaTaran]

Lately, I kind of feel like game criticism is heading towards a turning point. Yeah, you can talk about the ridiculous Uncharted 3 debacle, but on the whole, I feel like fans rage less over "good" reviews, and media outlets are less afraid of giving simply "good" reviews. Now, I don't have any hard numbers to back any of this up, but I feel the average Metacritic scores of big blockbuster games is lower compared to previous years. Of course, maybe the games are just plain worse, or we're experiencing franchise fatigue as we drudge further on through this console cycle. Or maybe, just maybe, reviewers are shying away from the 8-10 scale. I also also feel that more and more outlets are leaning towards review scales with less granularity, which results in less fans arguing over the petty differences between a 92 and 93. Or who knows, maybe the 'average' Internet-going video game enthusiast has just grown up. I remember the dumb shit I used to write on the Nsider forums when I was a teenager. Sometimes, you just grow out of it. And in some cases, time is the only cure.

Nicely-written post. For what it's worth, as someone who's totally guilty of bitching about forum over-reaction to review scores and such, I actually think this thread (so far) has been really calm and collected and had some good discussion. LET'S ALL GIVE OURSELVES A ROUND OF APPLAUSE, GAF.

 

[Ydahs]

So I come back from a nice jog and I find no meltdowns? Disappointing.

I've skimmed through the reviews and there seems to be some consensus that the overworld isn't the best inclusion to the series, which is a valid complaint. The other mixed bag is obviously the motion controls and the Wii graphics, both of which will not bother me. Though TSA's disliking of the stamina bar has me a little worried.

My anticipation hasn't been hampered at all. November 24th cannot come any sooner.

 

[Log4Girlz]

So buying this.

 

[Socreges]

Metascore still at 96, now with 16 reviews... Hmmm, did we overreact and panic too early?

No, we overreacted and panicked at exactly the right time. i.e., moments after the first few reviews began to come in and without having read the text. That is the perfect moment for overreacting.

 

[TheGreatMightyPoo]

Ruh roh. Metascore is down to 95. Anything below that, it'll be a new record for console Zelda.

The critics have spoken, Skyward Sword is broken.

 

[Kai]

UPDATED REVIEW COUNT

SCORE AVERAGE = 91.4%

25 Total Reviews:

100 - IGN
100 - Game Informer
100 - Edge
100 - Wired
100 - Guardian
100 - Metro GameCentral
100 - CCC
100 - Nintendo World Report

98 - Nintendo Universe
98 - Computer and Video Games
98 - ONM UK
93 - Videogameszone
90 - Games Radar
90 - Gameblog.fr
90 - Games(TM)
90 - Joystiq
90 - Juexvideo.com

85 - EGM
83 - 1up
80 - Jeuxactu.com
80 - Gameblog
80 - GameKult
80 - Gamepro
80 - Giant Bomb
80 - G4TV

 

[Souldriver]

Oh my god. This is an outrage. How dare they give zelda less than perfect scores. I'm mad. I'm mad like a.... a jack in heat, that's what I am. Especially at that one reviewer who listed low points and problems with the game. What is this, a witch hunt? I think the game journalist industry shot itself in the foot with this. Trust me, I'm an expert. Don't bother arguing with me. You're wrong, and I won't be here anyway. I'm seriously considering ending my internet connection, as I feel betrayed by it.

 

[guek]

"ABANDON HOPE, ALL YE WHO ENTER HERE."

if I knew how to modify gifs, I'd make the guy's head a big 8/10

 

[Hot Coldman]

Cool, the people I trust most gave the game 10s. Fuck yeah.

 

[Thunder Monkey]

how the hell did the wind waker get such a high aggregate score? was everyone still riding on oot's ootness in 2003?

Spoiler

i know i was. i even said it was better than oot when i beat it, but that was pretty much all thanks to the excellent finale, in hindsight

I just got grabbed in by the beautiful and cohesive world myself.

At that point I had yet to actually beat OoT.

 

[AniHawk]

Hmmm, interesting mix of reviews. Makes me want to play the game even more to see what the game really is like.

You know the one which really stands out? The 10 from Metro. Those guys are really hard to please, harder than Edge.
I think they've only given out 2 or 3 10s before this.

wow you're right.

street fighter iv
super street fighter iv
super mario galaxy 2
ocarina of time 3d
and now this one

not the most solid list but eh. 87% of their review scores come in under the average. i mean damn.

 

[pramath]

No, we overreacted and panicked at exactly the right time. i.e., moments after the first few reviews began to come in and without having read the text. That is the perfect moment for overreacting.

Except, as it seems now, we did not have any reason to overreact, the game is still getting great scores across the board.

 

[Mistle]

UPDATED REVIEW COUNT

SCORE AVERAGE = 91.4%

25 Total Reviews:

100 - IGN
100 - Game Informer
100 - Edge
100 - Wired
100 - Guardian
100 - Metro GameCentral
100 - CCC
100 - Nintendo World Report

98 - Nintendo Universe
98 - Computer and Video Games
98 - ONM UK
93 - Videogameszone
90 - Games Radar
90 - Gameblog.fr
90 - Games(TM)
90 - Joystiq
90 - Juexvideo.com

85 - EGM
83 - 1up
80 - Jeuxactu.com
80 - Gameblog
80 - GameKult
80 - Gamepro
80 - Giant Bomb
80 - G4TV

Looks great to me! And reading the scores in the 80s shows that they also love the game ( if it wasn't clear by the high score), but just have some problems with it. Which is fine. I'll make up my own mind about that.

Expecting somebody to hand out a score in the 70s however, it's gonna happen haha

 

[Socreges]

UPDATED REVIEW COUNT

SCORE AVERAGE = 91.4%

25 Total Reviews:

100 - IGN
100 - Game Informer
100 - Edge
100 - Wired
100 - Guardian
100 - Metro GameCentral
100 - CCC
100 - Nintendo World Report

98 - Nintendo Universe
98 - Computer and Video Games
98 - ONM UK
93 - Videogameszone
90 - Games Radar
90 - Gameblog.fr
90 - Games(TM)
90 - Joystiq
90 - Juexvideo.com

85 - EGM
83 - 1up
80 - Jeuxactu.com
80 - Gameblog
80 - GameKult
80 - Gamepro
80 - Giant Bomb
80 - G4TV

Europe has been dragging everything down lately.

 

[cajunator]

when does Japan get this game?
Weird that they get it after the US.

 

[Thunder Monkey]

Europe harshing on our pregame buzz.

 

[Divvy]

Europe has been dragging everything down lately.

I knew it! These 8's are Greece's fault somehow!

 

[Thoraxes]

when does Japan get this game?
Weird that they get it after the US.

That's what everyone said about the Wii and the DS, too.

 

[scitek]

The Metro review hurts to read because they obviously didn't play Red Steel 2. That game's controls were ace.

 

[Salih]

Cool, the people I trust most gave the game 10s. Fuck yeah.

EDGE - 10/10

only review i really care about.

 

[ThatObviousUser]

I think I'm most looking forward to the Eurogamer review. Those guys tell it like it is (and I thought this before the U3 thing. They have a reputation for rating lower than the average, unless they have a good reason.)

 

[Empty]

Europe has been dragging everything down lately.

the refined british (edge, onm, metro, guardian) taste is very favourable, on the other hand.

 

[Dark Schala]

And with this I'm going back to Fate/Extra (while peeking in here from time to time).

I'm happy that most people were well-behaved so far too.

Looks great to me! Expecting somebody to hand out a score in the 70s however, it's gonna happen haha

It's going to happen. I kind of expect it to (my predicted score range was 6.5-10 with reviews being all over the place; I like having a bit of a cushion on the lower end of the spectrum). I just hope people read the text first to see if the reviewer justifies the score.

To be honest, I want to see the Eurogamer review. They're usually well-written and make some good points.