Skyward Sword review thread [Newest Reviews - Cubed3 10/10, GC: A, AusGamers: 7/10]

amtentori said:
but honestly most gamers including critics do not see the game as only of the top big epic games of the season.
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which is just fucking sad and stupid but I digress, and bluntly put, another reason why I'm not really getting up in arms over some of these reviews. I understand the current gaming climate enough to know that I shouldn't be bothered about any of this.
 
Some reviews are a bit dissapointing. Mostly the overworld stuff I was siked for is not a disappoint. WHERE THAT GAMETRAILERS REVIEW VIDEO AT DOE?
 
overcast said:
It's getting great reviews. People have inflated expectations because reviewers seem to throw 10's out like candy.
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Yeah seriously. Reviewers are like blah blah this part sucks or that could be better and still give it like an 8/10. On what planet is an 8/10 bad? Especially if it concerns an obviously controversial control scheme and changes to a well loved franchise. If it were getting 6/10 or something I could understand peoples frustration, but seriously...
 
Gamesradar has a good concluding paragraph that I think helps put things in perspective (if people are interested):

Undoubtedly, Skyward Sword will be many people's new favorite Zelda, so it's understandable that some will honestly feel that it's the best Zelda ever – it's not an unreasonable position to take. The thing is, Zelda is a rare example of a series that has never had a serious misstep to tarnish its record. Every Zelda is someone's favorite Zelda, and there's a legitimate argument for why each Zelda is the "best" Zelda.
The question is: is Skyward Sword objectively superior to its predecessors? No, it isn't. But it does live up to the Zelda legacy, and that's enough to make it superior to most other non-Zelda games.
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kayos90 said:
I've been saying it's going to be SS vs DS. We'll see if that's true.
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zelda's going to be in the top five, sure, but uncharted 3 and dark souls will be the two battling for the top spot. deus ex will probably be 3 or 4.

portal 2 will be kinda forgotten, but still place in the top 5. or maybe it'll battle with gears 3 for one of those spots. rayman origins would get the number one spot, but too many people didn't download the demo.

seriously, just look at the rayman thread and see how many people were going to skip on the game until they played the demo. now extrapolate that for all of the unwashed masses.
 
Divvy said:
What a fucking disappointment.

What the hell happened to Zelda? I remember the days when a new zelda would come out and the internet would go aflame at an 8.8 score. Now we get multiple eights and not a single death threat? A B+, and no fat jokes either? Nintendo fans should just pack it up and give up, Zelda fanboyism is dead.

In conclusion, Uncharted 3 > Skyward Sword
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SS metacritic is still higher, suck it UC 3 fanboys!!!!
 
Kai said:
No way - even if you throw in EGM, 1up, GiantBomb, G4TV and Gamepro - there are about 10-11 other publications that gave it between 90-100.

I say it will be at 93-95.
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Having watched this for several years, I pretty much agree with AniHawk.

Just a handful of 8's actually has an extremely dramatic impact on the overall score.
 
_Alkaline_ said:
Obviously I'm only speaking on behalf of myself. And certainly WW is far from a bad game. It's easier to find faults when there's not many of them.
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That's why I think it's a bit hyperbolic to call it one (not you, other posters have). Even Phantom Hourglass is a "good" game, even if I think it's a bad Zelda game.

I'm not anticipating Skyward Sword to overtake the Majora crown, but it seems like it'll be better than Twilight in my eyes.

God it's 1am and I have work tomorrow.
 
Can some of the reviewers tell us if they used a Wii Remote Plus or just the Motion Plus dongle? Cuz I only have the dongle and am wondering if it works just as well.
 
cajunator said:
Yeah seriously. Reviewers are like blah blah this part sucks or that could be better and still give it like an 8/10. On what planet is an 8/10 bad? Especially if it concerns an obviously controversial control scheme and changes to a well loved franchise. If it were getting 6/10 or something I could understand peoples frustration, but seriously...
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On the 8-10 review scale.
<6 = Joke score
7 = Shit
8 = Crap
9 = Okay
10 = Good
 
Feep said:
Not only do you suck at spoiler tags, you aren't even right.

Stealth edit: Damn, you stealth edited!
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How many are there, do tell. Talking about ones where you get a heart container. I'm not counting the last one, obviously.
 
Seems like reviews are going to be split based on:

1) Whether they like the motion controls
2) Whether they like the Metroid-style backtracking or think it's just "filler"
3) Some complaints about it being too linear in the main quest for Zelda
4) Some complaints about Zelda changing
 
If anyone sees any other "spoilers' I somehow missed (I swear, I tried to mark them all) or anything you feel should be spoiler tagged, please PM me. I ask that anyone who quoted my post at least edit it to what it is now - I went through and tagged some more stuff.
 
Nirolak said:
Having watched this for quite a while, I agree with AniHawk.

Just a handful of 8's actually has an extremely dramatic impact on the overall score.
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Meta Critic is an awful congregate of score averaging though.

B+ = 83. Really?
 
ivysaur12 said:
That's why I think it's a bit hyperbolic to call it one (not you, other posters have). Even Phantom Hourglass is a "good" game, even if I think it's a bad Zelda game.

I'm not anticipating Skyward Sword to overtake the Majora crown, but it seems like it'll be better than Twilight in my eyes.

God it's 1am and I have work tomorrow.
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You like Majora's Mask so you're a-ok in my book.

Now there's a game with real substance, even if its dungeons are, for the most part, similarly uninspiring.
 
ShockingAlberto said:
A lot of that probably comes down to how the reviewer themselves felt about motion controls before they ever walked in.

I don't want to pick on Patrick's review, especially because he said he did like the controls and likes the game, but opening his review with "The only game you've actually wanted to sit down and play on the Wii!" kind of colors the entire tone from thereon.

Not to say the spread in opinion has nothing to do with the game, but people can probably try to match up the reviews with how they feel about the things they're talking about to try and figure out who they agree with.

I suspect those that dislike motion controls will find EGM's review more enlightening than someone who has admitted to liking them.
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The point is, why not like it if it is implemented well? Sword fighting is a HUGE improvement over previous game, over almost any game with sword fighting. And so is bow control.

I don't get why someone would hate the overall implementation of the motion control when you mimic the wing flapping by waggle in like 0.001% of the total length of the game.

It is not as if we haven't played other M+ games, like RS2 or Resort to know how responsive the game can be; I myself has played the demo build (beside the re-centering which is apparently fixed in the final build), I found this motion controls being 'poor' to be a objectively wrong.
 
Nirolak said:
Having watched this for several years, I pretty much agree with AniHawk.

Just a handful of 8's actually has an extremely dramatic impact on the overall score.
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Have we seen any highly-weighted scores under 90, though? Seems like most of the lower scores have been from smaller outlets.
EDIT: Never mind, I am dumb and wrong.
 
With all known reviews right now - it should be at 93.47

GameSpot and GameTrailers will make a big difference....

100 - IGN
100 - Game Informer
100 - Edge
100 - Wired
100 - Nintendo World Report
100 - Metro GameCentral
100 - Guardian
100 - CCC

98 - Computer and Video Games
98 - ONM UK
90 - Games Radar
90 - Gameblog.fr
90 - Games(TM)

83 - 1up
80 - Gamepro
80 - Giant Bomb
80 - G4TV
 
Orayn said:
Have we seen any highly-weighted scores under 90, though? Seems like most of the lower scores have been from smaller outlets.
EDIT: Never mind, I am dumb and wrong.
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I believe GamePro and G4TV also have some notable weights.

Giant Bomb might as well, but I'm not sure.
 
Medalion said:
Easier to meltdown if one controversial opinion... when they come from everybody, harder to process it for some reason
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Plus the Uncharted 3 thing made everyone self-aware. Plus the most controversial review, EGM's, is so ludicrous it can't be taken seriously.

EGM said:
nfortunately, if you’re like me and have played a good amount of button-mashers over the years—or even just older Zelda titles—your instinct is to attack hard and fast. But if you swing too fast, even with MotionPlus, Link won’t be able to catch up to you.
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I mean seriously, "I played the game wrong so the controls suck."
 
Nirolak said:
Having watched this for several years, I pretty much agree with AniHawk.

Just a handful of 8's actually has an extremely dramatic impact on the overall score.
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Not only that, this will get fewer reviews since it's a single-platform release, and it's on the Wii.
 
AniHawk said:
zelda's going to be in the top five, sure, but uncharted 3 and dark souls will be the two battling for the top spot. deus ex will probably be 3 or 4.

portal 2 will be kinda forgotten, but still place in the top 5. or maybe it'll battle with gears 3 for one of those spots. rayman origins would get the number one spot, but too many people didn't download the demo.

seriously, just look at the rayman thread and see how many people were going to skip on the game until they played the demo. now extrapolate that for all of the unwashed masses.
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If GAF really thinks UC3 deserves GotY then I'll baffled. I really will.
 
TheChaos said:
How many are there, do tell. Talking about ones where you get a heart container. I'm not counting the last one, obviously.
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Why wouldn't you count the last one? It's totally legitimate.

I am also pretty positive G4TV is not considered by Metacritic. I won't hurt your precious score, GAF.
 
walking fiend said:
The point is, why not like it if it is implemented well? Sword fighting is a HUGE improvement over previous game, over almost any game with sword fighting. And so is bow control.

I don't get why someone would hate the overall implementation of the motion control when you mimic the wing flapping by waggle in like 0.001% of the total length of the game.

It is not as if we haven't played other M+ games, like RS2 or Resort to know how responsive the game can be; I myself has played the demo build (beside the re-centering which is apparently fixed in the final build), I found this motion controls being 'poor' to be a objectively wrong.
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You could have the perfect motion control scheme and I'd still rather a classic controller.
 
The GOTY stuff absolutely doesn't matter now.

Super Mario Galaxy 2 was the highest rated game of the year and totally and willfully ignored during GOTY deliberations. A Zelda that people aren't creaming themselves over will be pushed to the side, as well.

Again, to reference Patrick's review, that first paragraph is why. No reviewer wants to play games on the Wii. Doing so is a chore. The time when a Wii game could be considered the best game of the year is several years past.

That said, who gives a shit. If the game is amazing, review scores won't matter. Don't just get lost in the hype of what accolades it has won or will win. I think people running around going "THIS IS GOING TO BE THE BEST ZELDA EVER. FACT." (and will probably be among the first to backlash against it) created unreasonable expectations. No game is going to match up to the hype in your mind unless you've already decided that there's no way it can fail.

And at that point you're no longer playing video games to enjoy them, you're playing video games to enjoy talking about video games on the internet.
 
UltimateIke said:
The Uncharted 3 fiasco has saved us a lot of heartache. Imagine what the reaction to all of these 8's could have been...
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There are also like 4-5 mods watching the thread, so it would have been especially brutal. :lol
 
Socreges said:
Gamesradar has a good concluding paragraph that I think helps put things in perspective (if people are interested):
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This pretty much sums it up.
To some people, this game will be the greatest Zelda ever. to some, it will be one of the worst. To some they wont even bother playing it because it has motion controls. It would have been this way whether the game scored perfect tens or not.
 
hyduK said:
You could have the perfect motion control scheme and I'd still rather a classic controller.
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Exactly you don't like Motion Controls. That doesn't mean the controls themselves are bad, your bias just makes them bad for you.
 
hyduK said:
You could have the perfect motion control scheme and I'd still rather a classic controller.
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You'll have to get over the trend that the industry is moving in. Sucks for you, I guess. It also doesn't make the controls bad, it just means that you don't necessarily like that type of control method. Sort of like how you might not like some type of music, but you can at least appreciate the talent.
 
Medalion said:
Easier to meltdown if one controversial opinion... when they come from everybody, harder to process it for some reason
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Everybody? There are more scores at 100 than between 80 and 89.
 
hyduK said:
You could have the perfect motion control scheme and I'd still rather a classic controller.
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That doesn't make it poor.

By this line of reasoning, no fps game on a console should be given a score over 9, because fps control without mouse sucks...
 
UltimateIke said:
The Uncharted 3 fiasco has saved us a lot of heartache. Imagine what the reaction to all of these 8's could have been...
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It's not good to keep all that rage bottled up, just let it all out guys. You know you want to.
 
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