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[Cygnus X-1]

Majora's Mask had a quest log fwiw

I'm back just in time to say this: Majora's Mask was the right path. I still don't understand why Aonuma isn't considering this game as entity as it should. It's different, but still feel like a Zelda and somehow it's complementary to Ocarina of Time.

If he really wants to develop an already existing game, it would be best to do it with the less used formula that is the darkness and serious-nature of MM. Shame in the end it's still an add and remove-thing or what Ocarina of Time was.

Again, I really hope these reviews will open his eyes a bit. He should go willingly to Miyamoto and tell him that he wants to change franchise. Of course one has to put his pride on a side to do this.

And I really think he should read a pile of books, because there is plenty of ideas out there.

 

[Cipherr]

No meltdowns. This year didn't deliver. But we will always have the one I guess.

 

[Hot Coldman]

Edge seemed pretty happy with it, do they do a goty thing?

Yeah. Last year they gave SMG2 their 'Mainstream Game of the Year' (Minecraft won 'Indie GOTY', to put that into context). Zelda will take their GOTY, no doubt about it.

 

[gimmmick]

Another over rated 10 review from ign?

 

[TheGreatMightyPoo]

Not too many reviews yet. The score shouldn't be representative of the game's final average score, I'm hoping for a 96 or 97.

And B+ is the new 8.8.

It's not really the grade, it's them harping on poor motion controls when everywhere else it seems they are fantastic.

Of course that seems a big part of the grade and it's more(or less in this case) than an opinion, it's misleading people.

They were probably hoping motion controls wouldn't work and pounced on any glitch in them to satisfy their negative predisposition.

 

[Cygnus X-1]

1UP believes the following Wii games deliver a better experience than Skyward Sword



wow...

It's not like that. I think reviewers want to give a signal to Aonuma and Miyamoto: this is the very end and it's time for a much more radical change. They failed to do that with Twilight Princess and it was a giant mistake, but better late than never!

 

[Red]

Yeah. Last year they gave SMG2 their 'Mainstream Game of the Year' (Minecraft won 'Indie GOTY', to put that into context). Zelda will take their GOTY, no doubt about it.

Their two picks would have been mine as well.

I really like Edge. For all the criticism games journalism generally receives, they do a good job.

 

[Pocks]

Another over rated 10 review from ign?

Plenty of other organizations have given the game a 10.. the only way to find out is by playing the game and determining if you find the objective points of Rich's review to be valid.

 

[ViewtifulJC]

No.

TP was released early in the HD gen; you can be sure that not a single publication will give GOTY to a non-HD game.

I meant a GOTY to me

who the fuck cares what other people think is the GOTY?

 

[Vulcano's assistant]

I was expecting a couple of 4/5s, no big deal, the only review that bothers my is gamesradar's.

 

[Cygnus X-1]

Still waiting on Eurogamer and Gametrailers.

And Gamespot.

I'm curious, because if these reviews will be positive I'll start to seriously question some comments I read, excluding TSA, which is believable.

 

[Deleted member 30609]

Their two picks would have been mine as well.

I really like Edge. For all the criticism games journalism generally receives, they do a good job.

Every now and then they publish a review that really earns them their fantastic reputation.

Their Dark Souls review is one of my personal favourite pieces on a video game. Everything about it just screamed enthusiasm, love of the medium and articulate and original thought. It made me want to drop everything I was doing and play some more, and that rarely happens.

 

[Sinthetic]

I meant a GOTY to me

who the fuck cares what other people think is the GOTY?

You tell em mate!

 

[Sn4ke_911]

And Gamespot.

And

Spoiler

Destructoid

 

[Red]

I can't wait to play this on Dolphin. All non-hd arguments are invalid to me. I'll be running it at several times the resolution of console CoD games. Take that, mainstream media.

 

[Glass Rebel]

About to leave Skyloft for the first time and I'm gonna say this: They should either trim the story down or feature voice-overs. It didn't bother me in WW but since TP it just looked weird and SS seems to be story heavier. I dunno but the scenes with Zelda would have been much better with competent voice acting.

The game looks and feels pretty great though.

 

[Peterthumpa]

About to leave Skyloft for the first time and I'm gonna say this: They should either trim the story down or feature voice-overs. It didn't bother me in WW but since TP it just looked weird and SS seems to be story heavier. I dunno but the scenes with Zelda would have been much better with competent voice acting.

The game looks and feels pretty great though.

Yeah, that's one area where I think that Nintendo got some things wrong.
I know that text-based conversations in the Zelda universe have their "charm", but that was mainly used when consoles had no power to do such things as voiceovers.

The time has come to Nintendo to move on, and I'll think they'll do it in the next Zelda for Wii U, if the graphics keep the look they had in E3's Wii U demo units this year.

 

[Kenka]

Aaaaaaand I came back home with Zelda, Mario and Skyrim.

What a day.

 

[Red]

Aaaaaaand I came back home with Zelda, Mario and Skyrim.

What a day.

Oh just rub it in why don't you

 

[Corky]

Aaaaaaand I came back home with Zelda, Mario and Skyrim.

What a day.

>:[

 

[Glass Rebel]

Anybody who played it already have any problems with the vertical swing? It registers my downward slash as upward slash

 

[The Technomancer]

Yeah, that's one area where I think that Nintendo got some things wrong.
I know that text-based conversations in the Zelda universe have their "charm", but that was mainly used when consoles had no power to do such things as voiceovers.

The time has come to Nintendo to move on, and I'll think they'll do it in the next Zelda for Wii U, if the graphics keep the look they had in E3's Wii U demo units this year.

I just can't trust them to not fuck it up. I'll take text over bad voice acting.

 

[Hot Coldman]

They should make a 3D Four Swords inspired by Sonic Generations. Four Links, each with a partner from their games. Make sure Tetra and Midna both appear.

Boom! There's your test-bed for voice acting in Zelda.

 

[SilverLunar]

Skyward Sword Got a Few Low Scores? Put Away the Pitchforks Folks

Why is B+ and 8s considered "low"?
Crazy videogame standards!! That's why i hate scoring altogether :/

 

[Epic Tales of Penis]

everyone doted over TP only for there to be a fairly substantial wave of fan disapointment following the release. Who knows what will happen this time.

Good point.

 

[DaBuddaDa]

Why is B+ and 8s considered "low"?

Well, it's because there are dozens and dozens of games that get 9s and 10s, and there is only so much time one person has to devote to playing all of the games that are out there. The competition is a beautiful thing.

 

[thefro]

Why is B+ and 8s considered "low"?
Crazy videogame standards!! That's why i hate scoring altogether :/

Score inflation for MW3/Battlefield 3/Batman/Skyrim/Uncharted 3 from many review sites.

 

[Criminal Upper]

Sorry to go on about this again, but god damn. Such a rare thing for me to be excited about a game again, congratulations Nintendo.

/dusts off the old Nintendo Wii

Truly the cutting-edge of video game forum lingo.

 

[Neiteio]

Wow, wasn't expecting to wake up this morning and see so many 8/10s for Zelda (that's what a 4/5 is, folks).

Did TSA ever post his thoughts? I'm interested to hear what he thinks. He's the guy who started The Hylia and demoed TP at Nintendo's E3 press conference, isn't he?

 

[jkanownik]

My mind is blown by the fact that many people are saying this is the greatest Zelda game ever and some are saying that Twilight Princess is a better game.

How is that even possible?

 

[Disgaeamad]

Really disappointed with Giantbomb's review. I won't judge the score because I haven't played the game (although a 4/5 is still a great score), however, the content of the review can be pretty disastrous at points. Claiming that Zelda falls into the action RPG genre (which I guess was true in the NES days) and using that as an excuse to shoehorn an awful Skyrim comparison left me with a really bad aftertaste.

Certainly not the quality I'd expect from them.

 

[Daft_Cat]

No.

TP was released early in the HD gen; you can be sure that not a single publication will give GOTY to a non-HD game.

 

[DaBuddaDa]

Really disappointed with Giantbomb's review. I won't judge the score because I haven't played the game (although a 4/5 is still a great score), however, the content of the review can be pretty disastrous at points. Claiming that Zelda falls into the action RPG genre (which I guess was true in the NES days) and using that as an excuse to shoehorn an awful Skyrim comparison left me with a really bad aftertaste.

Certainly not the quality I'd expect from them.

Patrick certainly doesn't have anywhere near the review chops that the GB regulars do. I hope he improves.

 

[Mr.Squirrel]

God I can't wait for this game to come out. My body is so ready!

 

[chifanpoe]

95 on Metacritic, that's a damn fine score

Hype returning

Why would it have left?

 

[SykoTech]

Pretty much what I expected to wake up to. Lower than expected scores, a banned Nintendo fanboy, and people pretending to like IGN because of a high score. I was right that it would be as bad as the U3 review thread though. People are too self aware now and Mama Robotnik isn't here collecting comments and begging for attention.

A shame to hear that some reviewers aren't too fond of the motion controls though. Mainly because, based off of my previous experience, I'll probably end up agreeing with them to some extent. The sooner the Wii U gets here, the better.

Wow, wasn't expecting to wake up this morning and see so many 8/10s for Zelda (that's what a 4/5 is, folks).

Did TSA ever post his thoughts? I'm interested to hear what he thinks. He's the guy who started The Hylia and demoed TP at Nintendo's E3 press conference, isn't he?

He did, and they read much better than any of the 10/10 reviews.

 

[jacksrb]

Seems to me like the reviews are relatively consistent in that the controls work great, there are some nice tweaks to game design, and the game is another great Zelda game. The sacred realm stuff seems to be getting mixed reactions.

Anyway, what affects the score is how the impact of how all those good and bad things hit the reviewer mixed in with expectations, other current games, series history, etc.

 

[Bluemercury]

Pretty much what I expected to wake up to. Lower than expected scores, a banned Nintendo fanboy, and people pretending to like IGN because of a high score. I was right that it would be as bad as the U3 review thread though. People are too self aware now and Mama Robotnik isn't here collecting comments and begging for attention.

A shame to hear that some reviewers aren't too fond of the motion controls though. Mainly because, based off of my previous experience, I'll probably end up agreeing with them to some extent. The sooner the Wii U gets here, the better.



He did, and they read much better than any of the 10/10 reviews.

with the exception of the EDGE review...also the giang bomb review is ridiculous...

 

[Deleted member 81567]

I've never seen Metro give a 10/10.

 

[mclem]

About to leave Skyloft for the first time and I'm gonna say this: They should either trim the story down or feature voice-overs. It didn't bother me in WW but since TP it just looked weird and SS seems to be story heavier. I dunno but the scenes with Zelda would have been much better with competent voice acting.

Eh?

I can understand an overlong story as a valid criticism, and I can understand preferring VA to text, but not both together. VA always - for me - makes things take *longer*, not less time. I read much faster than they can speak.

 

[Vulcano's assistant]

[IMG ]http://www.infendo.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/Rumour-Super-Mario-Galaxy-2-Boxart-1.jpg[/IMG]

I don't remember many publications giving GTOY to SMG2. And about the fact the SMG is the unarguably GTOY of 2007... well we are not in 2007 anymore. Four years of improvement hasve made a difference, even games from the HD consoles look outdated now.

 

[BY2K]

I'll probably end up agreeing with them to some extent. The sooner the Wii U gets here, the better.

Except Aonuma said he would stick with motion control for Zelda Wii U if he can find a way to use both them and the Wii U controller.

 

[Sadist]

So, good scores all around?

Cool.

 

[mclem]

I don't remember many publications giving GTOY to SMG2. And about the fact the SMG is the unarguably GTOY of 2007... well we are not in 2007 anymore. Four years of improvement has make a difference, even games from the HD consoles look outdated now.

The publications where the bolded word doesn't matter are the publications I respect more.

 

[Daft_Cat]

I don't remember many publications giving GTOY to SMG2. And about the fact the SMG is the unarguably GTOY of 2007... well we are not in 2007 anymore. Four years of improvement has make a difference, even games from the HD consoles look outdated now.

I see what you're saying, but visually speaking, the best art design in SD absolutely trumps any 1080 brown/grey generic looking next gen title. It's pretty much inarguable.

 

[Deleted member 81567]

I just watched the IGN video review. It was actually good.
So what are some of the flaws other websites are saying?

 

[Hot Coldman]

I've never seen Metro give a 10/10.

They give them out every now and then, but clearly only for cream-of-the-crop games. Rome: Total War was the earliest one I remember. Half-Life 2, Orange Box, Street Fighter IV, Mario Galaxy... maybe an Advance Wars game once too, if I remember correctly, though I may have just pulled that out my arse. Guys have good taste.

 

[Cygnus X-1]

I've never seen Metro give a 10/10.

I couldn't have said better than that french review: this is a game that will divide.

Just for instance, Majora's Mask scored 91.92% at Gamerankings. It's not that great and for many (me included), it's still the best Zelda game out there. It divided because of its dark nature with more mature and less fantasy-like elements.

 

[Caelus]

I was right that it would be as bad as the U3 review thread though.

On which page of the thread would I see the most of this? I haven't seen anything that bad, yet.

 

[Criminal Upper]

Pretty much what I expected to wake up to. Lower than expected scores, a banned Nintendo fanboy, and people pretending to like IGN because of a high score. I was right that it would be as bad as the U3 review thread though. People are too self aware now and Mama Robotnik isn't here collecting comments and begging for attention.

A shame to hear that some reviewers aren't too fond of the motion controls though. Mainly because, based off of my previous experience, I'll probably end up agreeing with them to some extent. The sooner the Wii U gets here, the better.



He did, and they read much better than any of the 10/10 reviews.

Amazing post. Pretty much what I expected to wake up to,