I'd be cool with it. And it'd make sense; if the "hurting himself" mechanic came from Pichu using too much electricity in each shock, it'd probably mean it's releasing more power in the process. Just keep it's feathery lightness and i'd love to see it return!
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I'd be cool with it. And it'd make sense; if the "hurting himself" mechanic came from Pichu using too much electricity in each shock, it'd probably mean it's releasing more power in the process. Just keep it's feathery lightness and i'd love to see it return!
Regulus Tera
Romanes Eunt Domus
So if Isaac makes it into the game, are we gonna have a Bison/Vega/Balrog situation? What pseudonyms should we use then?
RomanceDawn
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Oh I almost forgot! Yes please like and spread the goodness! Oh and I'll be sure to campaign for more DK music as well! There are a few perfect trophies I use as well.
"Let's complete the DK Crew! Vote Dixie and K Rool!"
https://miiverse.nintendo.net/posts/AYMHAAACAAADVHjuaNoDvQ
Probably? I mean, at least it's only 2 characters, and each has a name that isn't "Robin" between English and Japanese speaking regions. Maybe the professional scene will just call the Golden Sun Robin either "Isaac" or "Psynergy" and call the Fire Emblem Robin either "Reflet" or "Tactician/Avatar?"
balladofwindfishes
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I think his issue was with the skybox, that it was facing the wrong direction and was at the wrong time with the sun in the wrong place, if I read the interview correctly.
Anyway, Splatoon Direct coming up. What a nice time to announce Splatoon Mii hats.
Robin and Reflet, there's no Roy situation for Isaac and Robin in Japan because Robin isn't called Robin.
woopWOOP
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Give Pichu a stronger forward smash, but make him useless in everything else. Very short B spark, dizzy after hitting itself with thunder, etc. Weak joke characters are the best. Also they should give him a pink headband while they're at it.
Oh wow. I never really recognised the top of the castle so I figured he pulled the design out of his ass like most of the others. Funny that it's actually very similar to it's OoT model.
If it's just the background that is annoying him, I'm sure he could get someone to edit the original texture if they're going to do a straight port.
We don't really know what is behind the castle since it's at the edge of OoT's map, so most of it can stay as is. I think it's the fact Death Mountain should technically be a bit further to the right. Colouring might need touching up to fix the sun problem. Sky should be bluer I guess.
balladofwindfishes
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Speaking of fixing old stage issues, why has Sector Z been the only stage in the entire series to be remade with better graphics?
Redoing old stages with newer art styles and changing them slightly seems like something they would do, but they haven't yet.
Redoing old stages with newer art styles and changing them slightly seems like something they would do, but they haven't yet.
GiantBreadbug
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Actually this is the best way to get lots of 64 stages back. The layouts are awesome, but the graphics would be so jarring (especially the backgrounds). Saffron City would benefit so much from an updated background, some new Pokémon models, and some detail added to the textures of the stage. A straight port would be kinda hard to swallow next to all the newer stages. Kongo Jungle looked fine, but I'm not really sure why it not being touched up didn't seem off to me. Maybe cause its a really dark and simple stage.
THAT SHULK THO
Kubera Leez
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I agree. I would love to have classic 64 stages back that are updated to match visuals in Smash 4. However, I would take them back even without any updates.
balladofwindfishes
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Kongo Jungle's Skybox being dark works in its favor. The 64 sky boxes were super blurry, very low res, and abstract. Nobody cares the neckies in the back are really low res 2D sprite either, because they're dark.
It also matches the art style of the SNES DK's pretty much exactly, making it feel more authentic than the other 64 maps (except Sector Z, which has a lot of the same graphical advantages Kongo Jungle has)
I kind of liked the low res textures on that stage in Smash 4. I don't think I'd mind blurry textures on other N64 stages.
Nevertheless, bringing back Fountain of Dreams from SSBM should really be their top priority (in my humble opinion). It's possibly my favorite stage in the whole series.
Waluigilicious
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I made a poll on GameFAQs for everyone's most wanted third party character. I used the 10 that I believe were most talked about (pre-ryu). I also made it so it's only one vote per IP and username. These are the results so far after 112 votes:
Banjo-Kazooie (2nd)
16.96% (19 votes)
Bayonetta (10th)
2.68% (3 votes)
Bomberman (5th)
10.71% (12 votes)
Phoenix Wright (4th)
11.61% (13 votes)
Professor Layton (9th)
3.57% (4 votes)
Rayman (6th)
5.36% (6 votes)
Simon Belmont (3rd)
12.5% (14 votes)
Shantae (7th)
4.46% (5 votes)
Shovel Knight (7th)
4.46% (5 votes)
Snake (1st)
27.68% (31 votes)
Banjo-Kazooie (2nd)
16.96% (19 votes)
Bayonetta (10th)
2.68% (3 votes)
Bomberman (5th)
10.71% (12 votes)
Phoenix Wright (4th)
11.61% (13 votes)
Professor Layton (9th)
3.57% (4 votes)
Rayman (6th)
5.36% (6 votes)
Simon Belmont (3rd)
12.5% (14 votes)
Shantae (7th)
4.46% (5 votes)
Shovel Knight (7th)
4.46% (5 votes)
Snake (1st)
27.68% (31 votes)
Gave me the strongest Megaman Zero vibes ever. If he animated half as well as MMZ series Zero, I'd have mained him on the spot.
MrSaturn99
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You know who else gives me Mega Man Zero vibes? Mega Man, because if you recall they're actually both one and the same.
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
Since we didn't get Corneria for Wii U version so only way we would get Corneria-like stage is Sector Z, so we will see.
balladofwindfishes
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Sector Z being so huge is perfect for 8 player as well.
Loads of 64, 643D, Assault, Command and SNES music they can rip too.
It's be nice to get the Star Wolf/Sector Z remix on the stage though, along with Venom, so I hope they don't stick to keeping music to one stage with DLC.
A vet and banjo Kazooie leading seems accurate
I can't tell if you're being sarcastic...
"Megaman" Zero himself was reconstructed from the remains of Zero from the X series.
X was reconstructed from Megaman.
Zero is fan-theoried to be constructed from Bass or even pieces of Protoman.
In Mega Man Zero, you actually fight what's become of X at one point, so they're two separate entities. The reason the game is called Megaman Zero is because of branding.
MrSaturn99
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Read the link, lol. It's a joke from pre-release SmashGAF.
I'm a few pages into it but that guy seemed like he was being serious, I'll keep reading to see if the lore nerds prevail.
MaverickHunterAsh
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Ironically, while you couldn't have known that a pre-release SmashGAF joke was being referenced, your entire post is still incorrect lore-wise. MMZ-era Zero wasn't "reconstructed" from MMX-era Zero; in the MMZ series, you're playing as
the real Zero's soul in a copy body, while Zero's original body has become Omega, who was responsible for doing a lot of bad stuff before the Zero series starts and is the final boss of Mega Man Zero 3
But where you're really off-base is the idea that X has anything to do with Mega Man other than being his successor. X and Mega Man are two completely separate entities. X was not built from Mega Man's parts and he isn't the original Mega Man with tons of upgrades and a wiped memory. These are common misconceptions. X and Mega Man are two completely, totally, utterly separate characters.
Zero is not constructed from Bass, pieces of Proto Man, or anyone else. Zero is Zero. No official word has been given on what has happened to the Classic series characters by the time the X series starts; Inafune has only confirmed that Zero didn't kill them and that none of the X series characters are upgraded versions of or built from classic characters.
Finally, you never fight "what has become of X" at any point in the Zero series. Ever. You fight Copy X, an imperfect replica of X that Ciel built to lead Neo Arcadia in the real X's absence. As for what has become of X in the Zero series,
he used his body to seal the Dark Elf and basically became a digital Jesus-like entity who acts as Zero's guide/mentor/advisor and provides digital Jesus support in Zero's fight against the Dr. Weil, Omega, and the Dark Elf.
I will concede that Copy X was originally the real X in an abandoned story concept for the first Zero game, but that's as far as that ever went (thankfully).
Sorry, I'm a huge Mega Man fan and lore nerd. It's basically impossible for me not to correct Mega Man lore mistakes when I see them. No offense intended.
Regulus Tera
Romanes Eunt Domus
So who's starting the campaign for Yooka-Laylee in Smash?
Gonzo The Great
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A lot of people aren't voting for Wolf because they think he's getting in anyway. Who else is left? Snake? I don't know why people keep referring to "Banjo-Kazooie" (which isn't even the name of the character) as third party. Microsoft is not third party.
Kubera Leez
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Why is queen Bayonetta 10th? That is ridiculous!
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
batnose sucks and chameleon's eyes are too big
I can't believe we're doing this again. :lol
Right after notMegaman from Mighty No. 9 I guess.
MrSaturn99
Member
LOOK WHAT I HAVE DONE
MaverickHunterAsh
Member
Haha no, don't worry! If this is turns into a back-and-forth discussion, I'll take it to PMs. I don't want to clutter the thread with Mega Man lore debates.
SnakeSlashRO
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Ironically, while you couldn't have known that a pre-release SmashGAF joke was being referenced, your entire post is still incorrect lore-wise. MMZ-era Zero wasn't "reconstructed" from MMX-era Zero; in the MMZ series, you're playing as. I guess I can see how you could get "reconstruction" from that... maybe... but it's still not really accurate.the real Zero's soul in a copy body, while Zero's original body has become Omega, who was responsible for doing a lot of bad stuff before the Zero series starts and is the final boss of Mega Man Zero 3
But where you're really off-base is the idea that X has anything to do with Mega Man other than being his successor. X and Mega Man are two completely separate entities. X was not built from Mega Man's parts and he isn't the original Mega Man with tons of upgrades and a wiped memory. These are common misconceptions. X and Mega Man are two completely, totally, utterly separate characters.
Zero is not constructed from Bass, pieces of Proto Man, or anyone else. Zero is Zero. No official word has been given on what has happened to the Classic series characters by the time the X series starts; Inafune has only confirmed that Zero didn't kill them and that none of the X series characters are upgraded versions of or built from classic characters.
Finally, you never fight "what has become of X" at any point in the Zero series. Ever. You fight Copy X, an imperfect replica of X that Ciel built to lead Neo Arcadia in the real X's absence. As for what has become of X in the Zero series,he used his body to seal the Dark Elf and basically became a digital Jesus-like entity who acts as Zero's guide/mentor/advisor and provides digital Jesus support in Zero's fight against the Dr. Weil, Omega, and the Dark Elf.
I will concede that Copy X was originally the real X in an abandoned story concept for the first Zero game, but that's as far as that ever went (thankfully).
Sorry, I'm a huge Mega Man fan and lore nerd. It's basically impossible for me not to correct Mega Man lore mistakes when I see them. No offense intended.
THANK GOODNESS.
SHIT I was going to nerd rage to hell and back...
People still think X and Mega Man are the same being? How did people get to the idea Zero is made from Protoman or Bass? In Mega Man power battle Zero is revealed and Wiley threatens Bass with the creation of Zero. This also happened again in Mega Man and Bass (Mega Man 9, before the recent actual Mega Man 9)
I went through the wiki on Zero and realized I had never played Zero 3 or 4, which is where they pull all this plot-twist stuff.
As of X5 and Zero 1 and 2 my 10+-year old memory of the original trajectory is still pretty much correct though it seems the originals -> X plot has been clarified to not involve re-using robots. (Throughout the X series, when the Internet was young, this was pretty much the accepted hypothesis.)
And now I'm the shittiest lore nerd in the thread. /wrist
Bass's chest crystal's still in Zero's helmet. #jetfuel
As of X5 and Zero 1 and 2 my 10+-year old memory of the original trajectory is still pretty much correct though it seems the originals -> X plot has been clarified to not involve re-using robots. (Throughout the X series, when the Internet was young, this was pretty much the accepted hypothesis.)
And now I'm the shittiest lore nerd in the thread. /wrist
Bass's chest crystal's still in Zero's helmet. #jetfuel
I think it says something when not a single character voted for is actually a Nintendo character.
MrSaturn99
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actually believe it or not not only is mega man zero actually mega man but he's also mega man x's worst enemy: Weta Man, who attacks with cake analogies and is a Takamaru/Paper Mario supporter.
stan423321
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Nintendo third party characters? Name one.
balladofwindfishes
Member
That's good, since it was a third party only poll
So what does it say?
Goddamnit.
It says reading is hard.
WiiRevolution1
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The way I see it is keep releasing costumes (hopefully more than just Miis) stages, and characters every couple months then combine them all for the next portable/home systems. Then after that, keep releasing more DLC for next systems. I hope the DLC just keeps going forever even into porting the game to the next systems and so on. Would be the best way to do it. Continiously add to the roster across generations. I am ready to buy all DLC available. I don't want any huge break between characters like we have with 64-Melee-Brawl-4.
I'm so glad I left that site years ago; it should be burned to the ground for this dreadful travesty.
Sorry for off topic, but where'd you get that avatar? I've seen a couple of posters have Smash characters in that art style as their avatar and I was wondering who made them.
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
It's gamefaqs. It's a cesspool of, as 4chan would say it, normies.
KLatin Scelus
Member
I suddenly want Tabuu as a playable character. Or maybe as a costume for one of the Miis. I do wish Tabuu, Galleom, and Duon at least got some sort of acknowledgement.
Granted Tabuu has an incredibly bland design and literally no personality, but he's alien to the rest of the cast, I find him kind of interesting in a way.
And yes, I am well aware not many people like Tabuu.
Made before Mewtwo I see.
Granted Tabuu has an incredibly bland design and literally no personality, but he's alien to the rest of the cast, I find him kind of interesting in a way.
And yes, I am well aware not many people like Tabuu.
Made before Mewtwo I see.
Although I'm in the camp that doesn't want Tabuu, I'd love to see, like, a Primid become playable in Smash.
I dunno, I thought these guys had a charm to them, and the number of variations that existed could easily comprise a moveset.
KLatin Scelus
Member
Although I'm in the camp that doesn't want Tabuu, I'd love to see, like, a Primid become playable in Smash.
I dunno, I thought these guys had a charm to them, and the number of variations that existed could easily comprise a moveset.
Yup, not to mention the different faces they had as you go through Subspace could make some good alternates.
Maybe it's Final Smash could be it summoning an army of Primids to wreck the other fighters. Similar to King Dedede's old Final Smash.
I'm glad some enemies like the Poppant and Roturret returned in Smash Run, so Subspace Emissary hasn't been completely forgotten.
GustyGardner
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Although I'm in the camp that doesn't want Tabuu, I'd love to see, like, a Primid become playable in Smash.
I dunno, I thought these guys had a charm to them, and the number of variations that existed could easily comprise a moveset.
As someone who loved the Subspace, I would hate to see a Primid as a playable Smash character. I think it's just that they seem so generic that at that point you might as well put in Goombas and Waddle Doos. I mean, the Primids were cool and all, but I think that if they were to ever return, it should be as an Assist Trophy at best. Now Tabuu? He can stay in Brawl and never come back lol.
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