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So, Drake is being accused of using ghost writers. Fuckery inside.
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Skellig Gra
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Once again Canada blowing the "Most Admired" crown.
Trying to move tapes.
This is the main thing Drake has always been different he has always been the emotional rapper/singer talking about the shitty parts of his life past and present. No rapper wants to look emotionally weak like him, but that's what makes him stand out he isn't afraid to be that guy.
John Kowalski
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Where can i get a ghost to write songs for me?
TrAcEr_x90
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Holy shit! this was a memory long lost until I saw this gif!
Bobby Roberts
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How did no one post these tweets by 73 year old Toronto city councillor Norm Kelly?
Jesus Christ this is surreal.
Well first you gotta have black magic.
If you shop around for beats on the internet they often come along with hooks and other song ideas.
Not exactly shocking to find out Drake buys more than just beats; I doubt every single rap of his is bought or written by someone else though.
The type of people who care that at least one of his minor hits was mostly written by someone else aren't the type of people keeping Drake relevant.. other than the fact they can't seem to keep him out of their mouths. which does help keep Drake relevant lol
Not exactly shocking to find out Drake buys more than just beats; I doubt every single rap of his is bought or written by someone else though.
The type of people who care that at least one of his minor hits was mostly written by someone else aren't the type of people keeping Drake relevant.. other than the fact they can't seem to keep him out of their mouths. which does help keep Drake relevant lol
Canadian hero...
Well its either Drake or Justin Bieber
Emperor_EL
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How did no one post these tweets by 73 year old Toronto city councillor Norm Kelly?
Shit gettin' out of hand, gonna need Rob Ford to help squash this beef.
Ninja Scooter
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The streets is riding for Norm Kelly on this one. Meek better fall back.
Man, maybe its because I don't use Twitter but... this looks so gradeschool.
I can't not lose respect for Meek
To be clear, I'm not sure that Nicki tweet in the OP has to do with any of this. Her and her ex (some dude named Safaree lol) were going at it yesterday.
Scaf Breezy, he used to GW for her too (probably still does)
I got a pic of the dude who writes all those dope tracks:
This thing shits on any monster in any movie ive ever seen in terms of pants shitting, mind you ghost writer is a fucking kids show.
I still can't fuck with gooey gus.
No? Well... Whatever? I wouldn't be suprised if any of the mainstream rappers didn't write their own lyrics. I mean, sometimes you wonder if it's all the same guy anyway - when a lot of songs are about how "bad" they are, how your girl wants him and not you because he gots this and that, how big the rims on his new Escalade is etc and how gangsta he is.
I wouldn't be suprised.
I wouldn't be suprised.
Switch Back 9
a lot of my threads involve me fucking up somehow. Perhaps I'm a moron?
This is why mainstream rap gets all the hate from the underground cats.
(yeah yeah they're just mad they aren't rich and famous blah blah)
I grew up listening to hip-hop, and can't stand shit like this. It's the one industry where literally all you have to do is write and spit good rhymes. That's it. You don't need to learn an instrument, or how to write music, or produce beats. If you're a good MC that's all you're graded on. If you have some other person writing your rhymes what in the fuck is it you're doing exactly?
Fuck Drake, fuck Meek, fuck the whole industry full of fake bullshit. At least the twitter beef between Nicki and Taylor is funny because I don't care about the music. I can't laugh at this, it just annoys me.
(yeah yeah they're just mad they aren't rich and famous blah blah)
I grew up listening to hip-hop, and can't stand shit like this. It's the one industry where literally all you have to do is write and spit good rhymes. That's it. You don't need to learn an instrument, or how to write music, or produce beats. If you're a good MC that's all you're graded on. If you have some other person writing your rhymes what in the fuck is it you're doing exactly?
Fuck Drake, fuck Meek, fuck the whole industry full of fake bullshit. At least the twitter beef between Nicki and Taylor is funny because I don't care about the music. I can't laugh at this, it just annoys me.
StealthGoblin
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Rock and metal bands don't. Artists. Ha.
Alligatorjandro
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A lot of gaffers don't write their own posts.
YOU KNOW NOTHING
Meek on Twitter: Pray the real live forever. I pray the fake get exposed
Pray the real live forever. Pray the fake get exposed
~Drake, Know Yourself Lyrics
Meek cant even write his own tweets
Grover Cleveland
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Say names bruh
Glass Rebel
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I don't appreciate how everyone is ignoring the fact that I finally came out and admitted I wrote the Marshall Mathers LP.
Should have used that MMLP money to hire a ghostwriter for your posts breh
Jest Chillin
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Plenty of rappers have done this before Drake. Em made millions off of doing it in both his songs AND his movie. That's not at all what made Drake stand out.
Drake got big for two reasons. Being able to sing half decently on his tracks and the cleverness of certain bars in his rhymes. That's what blew him up in the beginning.
The thing is though, now he's got inertia behind him. He'll keep selling well until he starts dropping absolute trash projects. But ghost writing claims are going to kill his "GOAT" lines just like his actual life kills the tough guy lines he tries to use.
Ehh, don't really think Em is the same lane. Emotional sure, but it's not the same tone or subject matter for the most part. And Em is wack anyway.
That's not to say Drake is the first dude to ever present an emotionally vulnerable persona in hip-hop, but he helped shift things for mainstream hip-hop in that regard for sure.
Alligatorjandro
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Ain't no snitch
Hip Hop
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Let's not forget the other reason. Being a part of the whole Cash Money/Young Money crew.
They were running the show when Drake blew up. I'm pretty sure he wouldn't be as big today if it wasn't for that initial push.
Jest Chillin
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I mean he had the co-sign from Wayne but he blew up off his mixtape before he was signed. His style was fairly different then too. Did a remix of Lykke Li's Little Bit and and had another track rapping over a different indy/alt band too.
They're both mainstream rappers who have fame well outside of the normal demo for the genre. It's close enough of the same lane. Being wack is an opinion that has no bearing on the point. Drake's singing about strippers breaking his heart didn't make him stand out. At least not positively.
Emotions have been accepted in hip hop forever. From LL's I Need Love to Common's The Light and more. Drake didn't shift anything.
birthday-suit
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I mean that never stopped eminem.
i.e. Kanye West, GAF's favorite dick
Switch Back 9
a lot of my threads involve me fucking up somehow. Perhaps I'm a moron?
Hidden One
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Lupe real for that tbh.
Jest Chillin
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I don't agree that Em's latest stuff is pure garbage but dude is Elvis. He's got a built in fanbase that will never abandon him that doesn't cross over with a lot of other hip hop artists.
Discotheque
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Disgusting how this loud child even has the audacity to front on the 6god and give him more woes to run through the 6 with
It's not ghostwriting when you have a credit on the album
It's not ghostwriting when you have a credit on the album
birthday-suit
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Marshall matters LP 2 was good, but bad, because its all been done before.
Everything before that and after the eminem show sucked.
He's not hungry any more and is saying kill kill as a gimmick and throwing darts at pop stars and no one cares.
And then there's shitshitshit like I'm not afraid.
Everything before that and after the eminem show sucked.
He's not hungry any more and is saying kill kill as a gimmick and throwing darts at pop stars and no one cares.
And then there's shitshitshit like I'm not afraid.
Hidden One
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Exactly. People don't know what ghost writing is these days.
PEOPLE your favorite artist has writers.
Er...I mean he did, but you do you breh.
As for the rest of your post, not even sure what you're talking about, so I'll just back away slowly.
Preach to 'em.
birthday-suit
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I believe some rappers have never used writers.
Like eminem, because his style is so unique
Plus his bad stuff is so bad I can't believe he paid anyone else to write it
Plus I remember some documentary when he would write lyrics down obsessively
And joe budden isn't big big, but I think he writes all his own stuff
That would be a good thread
Who writes their own rhymes?
What if Kendrick wrote the line a rapper with a ghost writer with a ghost writer?
Lol perfect
Jest Chillin
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You're talking about Drake "shifting things" in mainstream hip hop in terms of being emotionally vulnerable. He didn't. Dudes have done it before. Dudes will do it after. Those songs were a couple of examples off the top of my head that were released and popular well before Drake came around.
I mean if you weren't aware of it, then you weren't aware. But the fact is that while talented at doing what he does, Drake hasn't done anything yet that's changed the genre.
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