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So, Drake is being accused of using ghost writers. Fuckery inside.

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PhoenixDark

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Drake would never blatantly diss Meek, let's be real. He'll come out with some wack subliminals as usual.

I wonder who will write it for him.
 
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BlackJace

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Servbot24 said:
I don't think anyone has ever called Drake the GOAT, but he definitely makes good music.



Good. Authenticity is one of the stupidest words to describe music with. Completely vapid.

He didn't go out into the forest, chop down a tree, craft his own guitar and record heartfelt songs about lost love into a tape recorder if that's the level of "authenticity" you're looking for.
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Dude, that wasn't mean to be disparaging towards Drake...
 
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CountBlack

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Can somebody confirm if Ken Masters is ok

Grover Cleveland said:
Meek trying to fall back today because Nicki told him to chill was hilarious.

As for Drake using ghostwriters, Kendrick tried to tell yall cats on King Kunta

I can dig rappin
but a rapper with a ghostwriter/what the fuck happen

I swore I wouldn't tell/but most of yall sharing bars like you got the bottom bunk of a two man cell
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KDOT THE PROPHET
 
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Esch

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Every song sound like Quentin Miller featuring Quentin Miller

Every song sound like Majid Jordan featuring Majid Jordan

Every song sound like The Weeknd featuring The Weeknd

never the flow though
 
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mr2xxx

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If it was some emotional track like Dear Mama from Pac, then i'd be somewhat dissapointed. But it's Drake no one really cares if he uses ghost writers.
 
SenjutsuSage

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I guess the truth had to come out sooner or later. I wrote the entirety of the Marshall Mathers LP. Now who wants to touch me?
 
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richardhawk

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The records keep coming for Drake, who matches the Beatles' feat first set 51 years ago.

Thanks to his surprise album If You're Reading This It's Too Late, which debuted at No. 1 on the Billboard 200 (dated Feb. 28) with 535,000 equivalent album units, according to Nielsen Music, Drake has tied a record that stood unmatched for 51 years: He charts 14 songs simultaneously on the Billboard Hot 100 (dated March 7). The sum equals the 14 titles that the Beatles placed on the Hot 100 dated April 11, 1964.

Drake's Entire Album Is on Hot R&B/Hip-Hop Songs Chart

The history-tying achievement is the latest chart honor for Drake via the new set. In addition t
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http://www.billboard.com/articles/c...ake-ties-beatles-14-simultaneous-hot-100-hits

Anyways, the boy from the 6 still winning.
 
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JABEE

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Sho_Nuff82 said:
If you ask something like this, I have to ask how old you are.

Edit: and you mean to tell me no one knows any lyrics to classic Kanye songs? Of course people care about their raps. They care more because of the great production, but they'd still be in the background of all they did was produce.
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All Puff Daddy ever did was talk over amazing Biggie songs.
 
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a916

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Lol, Meek Mill has some hot songs but please... you're not even close Drake's level.

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Also, I'm pretty sure that Ross tweet is photo-shopped.

LOL here's Meek being put in his place now lol.
 
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HiResDes

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The funny thing about Drake is that there were hints that he had been ghostwritten from the beginning, like when he'd go on shows and "freestyle" with written verses from songs that weren't yet out, except he'd struggle to even remember the writtens...I think that's because when you write something yourself it solidifies in your thoughts, but because he hadn't written shit he could barely remember the entire verse.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xOd15yoEebI
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-uKSeyYFGRo
 
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Grover Cleveland

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I mean, this isn't a huge deal (especially if you subscribe to the idea that modern mainstream hip-hop is just pop, a genre where many of the top artists have entire writing teams on all their shit), but there are a couple of key differences between Drake and Kanye/Dre.

A) Kanye and Dre are producers first and foremost. Sure people care about their raps, but they made it because of their work behind the boards.

B) Kanye and Dre have never exactly tried to hide the fact that they have help writing. You'll see plenty of Jay, Em, Snoop, Hittman, Melman, Xzibit, Royce Da 5'9" on the 2001 writing credits. There are 67 names on the Yeezus credits.

Those guys have always been upfront about using other people's bars. That's different than what's happening here with Drake (allegedly). The deception is worse than the action itself.
 
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braves01

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Lol, Drake's so soft it makes sense there is a ghost behind his rap persona. literally an incorporeal, intangible ghost, that's how soft Drake is
 
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a916

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SeanR1221 said:
Is it a surprise?

This is a guy who deadlifts catbacked using gloves

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That's how you get into position though... letting the bar touch your legs before you begin to lift.

EDIT: The video however shows him with rounded shoulders... I'd fire that trainer of his.
 
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Dabanton

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Meek trying to get himself blackballed. With his emotional ass.

Drake makes good songs but has never been anywhere near being a great. So this will have 0% effect on him and his fans.
 
SenjutsuSage

SenjutsuSage

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This is pretty damn embarrassing for Drake if I do say so myself. There is no greater insult for someone in his line of work, and that who is also held on the very high pedestal that he is as a rapper.

This now seriously calls into question many of the better raps that he has done. The music is still good, sure, but learning that he could potentially be a very big fraud is a pretty big deal as far as respect as an artist is concerned.

DonasaurusRex said:
well Drakes writing team is..
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And we're done. It may seem messed up, but this is a charge that can easily be hurled at Drake just about everytime now with evidence to support it.
 
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Cheddahz

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Lupe Fiasco decided to write a letter on Instagram to keep himself relevant about this whole thing

The Haunting.

A Letter

Part 1 of 2

To rappers from a rapper...simply write your own rhymes as much as you can if you are able. Ghostwriting, or borrowing lines, or taking suggestions from the room has always been in rap and will always be in rap. It is nothing to go crazy over or be offended about unless you are someone who postures him or herself on the importance of authenticity and tries to portray that quality to your fans or the public at large. Then we might have a problem. Some of the most pivotal moments in rap have been ghostwritten verses. This leads to a bigger point. Rapping is not an easy thing to do. It's takes years of work and trial and error to master some of its finer points. Respect from other MC's comes in many formats. Sales, live performances, realness etc but the one thing that is the most important is the raps themselves at least in the eyes of other serious rappers. The phrase "I'm not a rapper" gets thrown around as if it's a badge of honor. And that's fine. If rap is a side hustle for you or just a come up then by all means may the force be with you. But I know a lot of MC's where rap is the first love and the first thing they think about when they wake up and the last thing they think about when they go to sleep. Rappers who pursue the art form with this level of intention may not become rich and famous off selling their raps to a wide audience but that has never been an accepted metric to begin with in terms of quality or level of skill. The vast majority of rappers will never sell 100 records in their lifetimes let alone millions. But that's not the point, the point is that what pursuing the craft gives us in terms of the intangibles is something that record sales or fame could never represent. We achieve a mastery of language and poetics that competes on the highest levels of discourse across the entirety of human history. We express ourselves creatively and attain a sense of liberation and self-esteem via this sacred mode of creation and communication.
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Part 2 Of 2

Modern Radio and the commercial realm of music has injured rap. It set up ambiguous rules and systems for success that don't take into consideration the quality and skill of the rappers craft. It redefined rap as just being a beat driven hook with some words in between and an entire generation has surrendered to chasing the format instead of chasing the art form. While mastering any format should be the pursuit of any self-respecting rapper including the commercial format it must be kept clear that it is just one of many formats and that you should strive to master all of them. The art form is kept alive and progressive in the activities of the tens of thousands of rappers around the world who are everyday trying to think of that next witty bar. Trying to put that crazy verse together while at work. Trying to find that word that rhymes with catapult so they can finish off that vivid story rap about their childhood. Meek Mill struck a nerve accusing Drake of having a ghostwriter and the entire rap world reacted on all sides of the fence because rap is alive. It's active and it feels. Its rules and traditions are vibrant and responsive. I enjoy both these brothers music and find inspiration and appreciation from both of them. I remember being in Toronto at Goodfoot years ago and it was a stack of CD's on the counter and the guy behind the counter was like "Lupe you gotta take this CD. It's my mans mixtape." I didn't really pay it any mind I took it to the car and looked it over and just kind of set it aside focused on other things. I vividly remember saying "what kind of rap name is Drake?" The rest is history. Once while in Philly I went to do an interview in a shabby and very hood basement studio complex. I peeked into one of the rooms and it was this tall kid with his shirt off bouncing up and down in the booth with an energy that was electric. I gave him my regards. He gave them back. I think I mentioned something about him cutting his dreads. As I left I remember him rapping something about being a boss. The rest is history. At the end of the day, for better or worse, rap is alive even if some of its greatest moments are written by ghosts.
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Dishwalla

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Why does it matter if he writes his own songs or not? As long as whomever actually wrote the music is getting paid for it what's the problem?
 
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xaosslug

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peeps may think Drake is a bitch, but most don't buy that he doesn't write his own stuff + have good flow. Twitter pretty much dragged Meek Mill for being mad af, and having NO FLOW AT ALL himself. LOL

xtrasauce said:
Mainstream rappers are the worst. Their tweets give me headaches.
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lol @ Meek being mainstream XD
 
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DonasaurusRex

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Servbot24 said:
Well yeah, any pop/rap star is basically a brand with a team of contributors
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yep but so many of them want to take the MC crown when they are pop stars. Why lie when plenty of performing artists have writers, choreographers, producers, and musicians. They still trying to keep that link to earlier/ current rappers. Drake and the like are Hip Hop artists.
 
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Grover Cleveland

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Wavebossa said:
Why did Meek even start all this in the first place?

This was stupid on all fronts...
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The official reason is that Drake didn't tweet out support for Meek's latest album.

The unofficial and unconfirmed but highly rumored reason is that Drake fucked Nicki Minaj (who has been dating Meek for a little bit)
 
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Daria

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Drake has ghost writers, Wayne has writers, Drake has even done reference tracks. none of this is surprising, people just don't want to think that they're doing every thing on their own which won't happen
 
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