So has Metroid Prime 2:E bombed in the states or not?

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Has there been any initial reports of how this game is selling? It bombed in the UK, but that was expected. Metroid is still popular in North America.

Also it would be nice if anyone could dig up the numbers for Metroid Prime NPD november 2002 to compare with the current.

What's your november 2004 NPD metroid prediction? I am pretty pessimistic and predicting around 250,000K. Anything less than 200,000K is definitley a bomb for a game of this caliber.
 
That's a good question.

I made a bet a while back that it wouldn't do over 500k.

If I win, I'll be sure to hold him to it. If I don't, I'll forget I ever made that bet :)
 
I don't think it will bomb as bad as Pikmin 2 and PM2. But still very underwhelming. At least Efralope didn't endorse this one (kiss of death, JediForce,etc.). I don't pay enough attention to the actual numbers to make a prediction.
 
For me, it was overlooke by Halo 2, MGS3, and Half Life 2. Anything else in November, I didn't care.
 
Wario's right. It was a really bad time for MP2 to launch because November had so many heavy hitters on the market.

But again this all stems back to Nintendo's idiotic stance that games will sell without hype/marketing. If MP2 had actually gotten the type of advertising that it deserved, I have no doubt that the game would have done much better than it did. Which, judging by the way Halo 2 and HL2 overshadowed it, can't be very good.
 
Wario64 said:
For me, it was overlooke by Halo 2, MGS3, and Half Life 2. Anything else in November, I didn't care.
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Add WoW to that list and subtract Half Life 2 and I agree 100%. :O
 
The Metroid Prime bundles with the demo and such seemed like a marketplace effort to bring some attention to it. It sold like ass. It's been very heavily advertised on television too. Poorly, but still.
 
Tritroid said:
Wario's right. It was a really bad time for MP2 to launch because November had so many heavy hitters on the market.

But again this all stems back to Nintendo's idiotic stance that games will sell without hype/marketing. If MP2 had actually gotten the type of advertising that it deserved, I have no doubt that the game would have done much better than it did. Which, judging by the way Halo 2 and HL2 overshadowed it, can't be very good.
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Agree. This game deserves better advertising, and hyping. I think this game would fare better if it was released in december instead.
 
Musashi Wins! said:
The Metroid Prime bundles with the demo and such seemed like a marketplace effort to bring some attention to it. It sold like ass. It's been very heavily advertised on television too. Poorly, but still.
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:lol

'heavily'
 
Well...I don't watch tons of television but I've seen lots of Metroid Prime ads. Perhaps circumstantial, but it's more than I see for most non-EA games.
 
MP2 is getting plenty of advertising, even moreso than games like MGS3 and HL2, if MP2 sells substantially worse than MP, it just means that alot of people didn't like it enough to come back for seconds
 
Soybean said:
Target it had for $38 last week and when I came by on Thursday they had so many left. :(
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38 bucks? Looks like I'll be swinging by Targets after work...
 
I adore the first Prime, yet Mario Tennis will more than likely be my next GC purchase.

if MP2 sells substantially worse than MP, it just means that alot of people didn't like it enough to come back for seconds
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No, it means the GC is being dismissed as a platform altogether by most gamers.
 
DaCocoBrova said:
No, it means the GC is being dismissed as a platform altogether by most gamers.
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Because MP is the perfect game on the perfect system :P

Most GC owners dont like Metroid Prime. According to one guy i know. Its too mature. He didnt even bother finishing the Space Station part. He just says it doesnt have the nintendo spirit bullshit etc.
 
DaCocoBrova said:
I adore the first Prime, yet Mario Tennis will more than likely be my next GC purchase.



No, it means the GC is being dismissed as a platform altogether by most gamers.
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I'm not so sure about that. GC is my choice platform, yet I dismissed the first Metroid Prime, as did many a Cube owner I know.
 
Link316 said:
MP2 is getting plenty of advertising, even moreso than games like MGS3 and HL2, if MP2 sells substantially worse than MP, it just means that alot of people didn't like it enough to come back for seconds
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Not necessarily. Just because there are more tv ads than other top games like HL2 or MGS3 doesn't mean that MP2 had better advertising overall.

One thing that it didn't have going for it was word of mouth. This is one form of marketing that Nintendo really needs to focus on. Halo 2, MGS3, and HL2 don't need much advertising in the form of tv ads or mag ads because the word of mouth is so positive and strong. People knew these games were going to deliver, and they knew exactly what date they would release. The media picked up on this eventually, and that only fueled the fire even more (Especially in regard to Halo 2.) In other words, these games had strong hype going for them. MP2, did not.

Creating hype through strategic marketing coupled with positive word of mouth is what MP2 needed. Instead, all it got was tv ads (that were pretty rare from where I am) that didn't exactly showcase the 'must-have' quality about the game. I knew of some people who didn't even know what date the game was going to release.
 
The MP2 ad is shit. No one knows much about Metroid and what does there advert do to address the gap? It doesnt even advertise the game.
 
Tritroid said:
Not necessarily. Just because there are more tv ads than other top games like HL2 or MGS3 doesn't mean that MP2 had better advertising overall.

One thing that it didn't have going for it was word of mouth. This is one form of marketing that Nintendo really needs to focus on. Halo 2, MGS3, and HL2 don't need much advertising in the form of tv ads or mag ads because the word of mouth is so positive and strong. People knew these games were going to deliver, and they knew exactly what date they would release. The media picked up on this eventually, and that only fueled the fire even more (Especially in regard to Halo 2.) In other words, these games had strong hype going for them. MP2, did not.

Creating hype through strategic marketing coupled with positive word of mouth is what MP2 needed. Instead, all it got was tv ads (that were pretty rare from where I am) that didn't exactly showcase the 'must-have' quality about the game. I knew of some people who didn't even know what date the game was going to release.
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yeah just look at the review available.

Metroid Prime 1 has 79 reviews while prime 2 only has 25. Weird.
 
I don't know about US but i know that it has somewhat bombed in Germany. I think it's safe to say it bombed around the planet. GC charts from November.

1. (NEU) NEED FOR SPEED - UNDERGROUND 2 EA oA
2. (NEU) PAPER MARIO 2 Nintendo oA
3. (5) MARIO PARTY 5 PLAYER’S CHOICE Nintendo oA
4. (NEU) TALES OF SYMPHONIA Nintendo 6
5. (NEU) METROID PRIME 2 Nintendo 12
6. (1) FIFA FOOTBALL 2005 EA oA
7. (NEU) LOTR: THIRD AGE EA 12
8. (7) THE LEGEND OF ZELDA: THE WINDWAKER PLAYER’S CHOICE Nintendo oA
9. (2) DONKEY KONGA PAK Nintendo oA
10. (3) NEED FOR SPEED - UNDERGROUND PLAYER’S CHOICE EA oA

Actually it's been only on sale 4 days so it's probably no bomb. TOS 12, PM2 18, NFSU2 13.
 
Link316 said:
MP2 is getting plenty of advertising, even moreso than games like MGS3 and HL2, if MP2 sells substantially worse than MP, it just means that alot of people didn't like it enough to come back for seconds
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The MGS3 ad has been running on Spike TV non-stop.
But I haven't seen a MP2:E add on Spike TV since it was released.
 
Tritroid said:
One thing that it didn't have going for it was word of mouth.
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hype/word of mouth is what I believe sold the original MP, and that there is less of it for MP2 cause people who bought MP on hype/word of mouth ended up not liking it, once bitten, twice shy
 
Link316 said:
hype/word of mouth is what I believe sold the original MP, and that there is less of it for MP2 cause people who bought MP on hype/word of mouth ended up not liking it, once bitten, twice shy
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I'm one of 'em!
 
Link316 said:
hype/word of mouth is what I believe sold the original MP, and that there is less of it for MP2 cause people who bought MP on hype/word of mouth ended up not liking it, once bitten, twice shy
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Bingo.
 
Deku Tree said:
The MGS3 ad has been running on Spike TV non-stop.
But I haven't seen a MP2:E add on Spike TV since it was released.
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wat?! I watched Spike TV last night, Nintendo ran the MP2E and FFI&II commercials nonstop during WWE
 
Compared to Halo 2 and GTA:SA... sure it will. Compared to the rest of hte titles and given the size of hte US install base, definately not.

What is considered a bomb on the GC btw?

Edit: Oh and about that FFI&II GBA commercial it's fantastic. Why does Nintendo make such good GBA commercials on a consistent basis?
 
well .. what's a bomb on the GC ...... anything could be a bomb there's no one definition for it ...... :lol

but I know xbox never had a bomb except Blinx.
 
I think it'll top 400K. We sold a good deal of them when it came out, for a GameCube game - 40 to 50 copies, I think. It's been almost zilch since, though.
 
Mashing said:
What is considered a bomb on the GC btw?
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Who knows? I think the term is used way too much in an arbitary fashion. It gets to the point that people assume that some absurd number has to be matched in order for a game to be considered successful. It really is something that changes from title to title.

In the case of MP2 I'd imagine that Nintendo is going to the use the last game as measuring stick and hope that MP2 will sell within a certain range of the first game's sales performance for the holiday season it was released. I'd be surprised if they expected MP2 to do better than the first with all the issues they have faced sinced the first Metroid Prime.
 
It depends on the game, I guess. Something like the latest 'Mega Man' game doing over 300k is a success, or a 'hit'. But if Metroid Prime 2, a large-scale game, does anything under 600k, I'd call that a bomb.
 
SonicMegaDrive said:
It depends on the game, I guess. Something like the latest 'Mega Man' game doing over 300k is a success, or a 'hit'. But if Metroid Prime 2, a large-scale game, does anything under 600k, I'd call that a bomb.
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I don't remember Metroid ever being "large-scale." Don't get me wrong, the series has always been a media darling, but has any installment really been a runaway sales success? I have no clue what Super Metroid pushed, by the way.
 
Soul4ger said:
I don't remember Metroid ever being "large-scale." Don't get me wrong, the series has always been a media darling, but has any installment really been a runaway sales success? I have no clue what Super Metroid pushed, by the way.
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I think the series has been relatively favorable mostly in America, more so than Japan.

But even then it's not like Metroid has been a contender for top sales in the past. In fact, I think Metroid Prime was probably the pinnacle seller of the series. (I could be wrong though)
 
human5892 said:
:lol :lol :lol
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dude that's not a joke .... :P

you know some people think Nintendo DS is a bomb (even though it sold like half a mil already), so I really don't know what's not a bomb anymore.
 
I'm pretty sure Metroid Prime blew away all the previous Metroid installments in terms of sales. Although the first 3 Metroids all became "Greatest Hits" titles for thier respective platforms(including the original Metroid being re-released with a new box cover).
 
monkeyrun said:
dude that's not a joke .... :P
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Oh, yes it is. There are plenty of games on Xbox that have bombed, just like any platform.

you know some people think Nintendo DS is a bomb (even though it sold like half a mil already), so I really don't know what's not a bomb anymore.
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Those people are in denial.
 
I think title will match MP sales, even though the multiplayer isn't Halo2 caliber, it may provide the boost it needs. Thats the main section of any game that would interest, younger gamers. The single may be a little to thought provoking for most kids I know, don't play single player if there is multiplayer.
 
Tritroid said:
I think the series has been relatively favorable mostly in America, more so than Japan.

But even then it's not like Metroid has been a contender for top sales in the past. In fact, I think Metroid Prime was probably the pinnacle seller of the series. (I could be wrong though)
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AniHawk has been saying that Metroid Prime is the 2nd best selling Metroid title in the US behind the original Metroid IIRC.
 
I had Halo 2 and HL2 and I still cared about Echoes!

I love Metroid, and I find it very saddening (is that a word?) that it does so poorly. I mean I guess Metroid in a way is a niche adventure/fps hybrid, but anytime a system's "big" fall game can't sell even a 10th of what another systems big game did in one day, that's not good. I'm just glad I'm not an investor or anything... with how well DS/GBA is doing, it has to hurt their profit potential.
 
Deku Tree said:
AniHawk has been saying that Metroid Prime is the 2nd best selling Metroid title in the US behind the original Metroid IIRC.
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Oh. Well considering how many times the original has been re-released that would make sense.

Btw, according to Matt, the original Prime sold through 1 million units up to February after releasing in November. I really doubt Prime 2 will do just as well, considering Prime 1 also sold a quarter of a million after its first week of release.

I guess we'll have to wait and see.
 
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