So... Returnal releases tomorrow on PC. Who's getting it?

GHG said:
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For fucks sake is it really a stutter fest? Get outta here, no more double dip PS5 first then steam on heavy discount and if stutters are sorted - still not on Dead Space or Potter. 5k+ PC is the nuggets con forums will trick you into.
 
skit_data said:
It's gonna be interesting to see how this is received on PC. The only "problem" as I see it is that the game might come off as a little too easy because M+KB will definitely make aiming a lot easier. Then on the other hand, it was deemed to hard by many on PS5 so it might be good in the end (personally I found it just right in terms of difficulty, it resulted in actually having to become more skillful as a player).

Edit: I should also add that if I'd had a good PC I'd easily buy the game again, it has so far been the game of this gen that left the biggest impression on me and made Housemarque one of those studios I follow closely.
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Aiming is a non issue in this game though, it's practically automatic.
 
CDkeys had my key, but I had to go to the site and get it. No email informing me of it.

Like with every UE4 thing, there will be some way to fix the stutters with settings etc i'm sure.
 
TintoConCasera said:
I don't mind a short stutter when loading a new area. Now, if the game stutters while actually playing anbd fighting enemies then yeah, fuck this port.

DF's and other sites tech reviews will be interesting in this one, might indicate how future not-on-PS4 ports will be.
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My issue is based mainly in expectations. I am fine with them on an emulator done by enthusiasts on their spare time. But once you ask for money it's a different ball game.

Thebonehead said:
Tango Gameworks do.

HiFi Rush is also a game where timing is critical and they managed to Implement it on UE4 without shader compilation stutters with it.
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LOL tango game works? The 2 evil within games had TERRIBLE PC ports. GPU usage in the 2nd Is always at 80 cc per cent no matter what.
 
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ACESHIGH said:
My issue is based mainly in expectations. CEMU had shader cache issues and folks tried to


LOL tango game works? The 2 evil within games had TERRIBLE PC ports. GPU usage in the 2nd Is always at 80 cc per cent no matter what.
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And yet their latest effort is stutter free on UE4...

Perhaps they utilised their access to teams within the MS banner that have UE experience to help
 
ACESHIGH said:
LOL tango game works? The 2 evil within games had TERRIBLE PC ports. GPU usage in the 2nd Is always at 80 cc per cent no matter what.
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Bringing up ports from over half a decade ago when Tango have recently released an absolutely stellar port with incredible performance whilst every other dev are deliving stuttering abominations.

I don't think it disproves the point made to be honest.
 
Tomi said:
They will fix it, dont worry
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Yeah go on, defend this.

People pay for and expect a working product.

Or do you buy a car with 200 hp, get 100hp now, and the other 100 after ten visits to the mechanic? Is that normal? No, it's not. Gaming is the ONLY industry where people accept this shit.
 
Can you play the entire game co-op and have the second player get the story too? I hear there are some sections of the main game that are single player only. How does it all work? Thinking of getting 2 copies but want both people to enjoy the game equally when playing exclusively together.
 
Thebonehead said:
Having played 10 minutes of it I can safely say

Stutternal
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Wow that sucks.
I had high hopes here, never bought it on PS5 since I was LTTP and it popped up on PS+, was actually okay with paying for a late port for once. But nope the wallet stays closed until they sort this out.
 
Thebonehead said:
Housemarque to Sony on seeing Climax Studios rendition.

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Interestingly, Housemarque didn't develop Returnal alone. Climax Studios co-developed it. They're credited for a significant portion of its development, including but not limited to: production, design, programming, environment art, technical art, animation.

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Returnal credits (PlayStation 5, 2021) - MobyGames

The official game credits for Returnal released on PlayStation 5 in 2021. The credits include 1,365 people.
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Patrick S. said:
Yeah go on, defend this.

People pay for and expect a working product.

Or do you buy a car with 200 hp, get 100hp now, and the other 100 after ten visits to the mechanic? Is that normal? No, it's not. Gaming is the ONLY industry where people accept this shit.
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It's amazing the BS gamers put up with. But it's all fine and dandy since it's just games right? Gamers are so entitled, how dare they expect a working product on day one and not 6 months down the line if ever.

Also I will never understand the developer defense force on gaming forums. Not sure about this one but in reset era you get banned due to "lazy dev rhetoric" As if folks from any other industries don't work hard.

Honestly... screw them. Less lattes, hair dying and virtue signaling on Twitter and better coding please.
 
DeepEnigma said:
Then why were there countless threads all over the internet and especially on here port begging?
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Just to piss Sony fanboys, no one actually cares.

Just look at the most played games on PC in 2022:

  • Dota 2
  • Goose Goose Duck
  • Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2
  • CS:GO
  • ARK: Survival Evolved
  • Destiny 2
  • PUBG: Battlegrounds
  • Elder Ring
  • Apex Legends
  • Dying Light 2 Stay Human
  • Yu-Gi-Oh! Duel Master
  • Lost Ark
These are real prestige games PC folks are interested in.
 
Vick said:
Just to piss Sony fanboys, no one actually cares.

Just look at the most played games on PC in 2022:

  • Dota 2
  • Goose Goose Duck
  • Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2
  • CS:GO
  • ARK: Survival Evolved
  • Destiny 2
  • PUBG: Battlegrounds
  • Elder Ring
  • Apex Legends
  • Dying Light 2 Stay Human
  • Yu-Gi-Oh! Duel Master
  • Lost Ark
These are real prestige games PC folks are interested in.
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Need a 4090 clearly for those games

adam jackson fps GIF by CORSAIR
 
fcukkkkkkk i need to get homeeee fml fuck work, fuck having two jobs and fuck being rich enough to buy all triple a games on day 1.
 
ACESHIGH said:
Yep. Metroid prime is one of the greatest PC games released this year. Can't believe how well it runs even on a lowly FX chip.
Hats off to Nintendo as they are one of the best third party studios out there.
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Actually it runs pretty great on PC* and much better than on Switch.

*emulated on Ryujinx
 
Manus said:
Why does this force you to install Epic Online Services software for the steam version?
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Somehow they have to force their entrance to PC gaming market, dirty tricks are just "poor competitor anti-monopolist mechanisms", you know
 
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Quick upload of a few minutes gameplay. Installed latest nvidia drivers so you can see the shader compilation step whiz by.

It also stutters in battle.. Going to wait until they fix this

Watch the lower frametime graph and you can see plenty of spikes

 
The game does stutter on PS5 but it's rare and only really happens in the later Biome's when there's a ton of crazy shit happening on screen with multiple enemies and projectiles. Shit gets really hectic later on in the game. If it's stuttering on PC when there's not much activity on screen, something is definitely wrong.
 
SmokedMeat said:
Looking forward to DF's performance video.
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Manus said:
Why does this force you to install Epic Online Services software for the steam version?
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Thats the network that the game uses for multiplayer, telemetry and other online services.
EOS is effectively the easiest and cheapest way for devs to implement online services in their games.
Imma guess you havent installed Hades, Satisfactory, Among Us or any number of other smaller titles on your PC which is why you are only seeing this now.
 
Tg89 said:
Ultra without RT @ 1440p.
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I guess RT is under suspicion to be the cause of the stutters here, especially considering the ps5 didn't had it from what i remember, not to mention Hogwarts Legacy (another UE4 game) also had the RT options kill performance and cause stutters for many people.
 
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Very happy/jealous for PC players; the resolution uplift alone makes the visuals so much better. Although now that I see how performance is on different PC builds I am certain PS5 has headroom to bump up native resolution to 1440p at least and/or rework reconstruction approach similar to what Guerrilla did with Forbidden West. My only concern is Housemarque may not have the manpower to allocate the time/energy towards getting this done, but it really needs to happen. I love this game like no other and it would be nice for PS5 players to have higher image quality.
 
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