Theonik
Member
I figured it would be something like that. Assuming Eddie Murphy related? Real shame. Was really looking forward to aversion of it that wasn't compressed to hell and back.
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Sonic CD (Retro Engine) |OT| Where We're Going, We Don't Need Backbone
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I figured it would be something like that. Assuming Eddie Murphy related? Real shame. Was really looking forward to aversion of it that wasn't compressed to hell and back.
Yeah, it... it's really not. All of the original MD ones are better than CD. But it's pretty good and it's finally got the port a classic Sonic game deserves.
I would do bad things to people to get S3K and Sonic 2 ported like this.
I think some of you will be a little surprised with Sonic 4
Huh?
Phonomezer
Banned
Oh man, Tidal Tempest sounds so good
I haven't played this game in a very long time, I've forgotten what to do haha. Bad futures everywhere!
I haven't played this game in a very long time, I've forgotten what to do haha. Bad futures everywhere!
The Lamonster
Member
I think some of you will be a little surprised with Sonic 4
What are you talking about?
Apparently Taxman was planning to add in a new zone to the game but cut it due to time and a feeling of not wanting to deviate too far from the original game
JonCha needs to hit his "reassuring people about Sonic" post quota in every sonic thread
Seven Force
Banned
Honest question: Is the lack of lyrics in TTSW really that much of a deal breaker for some people?
Oh wow, that would have been great, but I guess I could understand the reasoning behind cutting it. At least he still got Tails in.
Oh wow, that would have been great, but I guess I could understand the reasoning behind cutting it. At least he still got Tails in.
A whole new zone? Sega, put this man in charge of Sonic 4 ep.2 ASAP.
EDIT: He was actually going to take on the challenge of finishing Dust Hill Zone?
Also no one should let a small issue like missing lyrics stop them from the definitive version of Sonic CD. Its got both soundtracks, 1080p, 3 filters for visual preferences, 60 fps locked, improved visuals in certain areas, Tails is playable, and its got all the old school secret stuff still in the game.
I miss the lyrics too, and think they should've just locked Sonic Boom as the intro, but still, thats small compared to all the other amazing improvements.
EDIT: He was actually going to take on the challenge of finishing Dust Hill Zone?
Also no one should let a small issue like missing lyrics stop them from the definitive version of Sonic CD. Its got both soundtracks, 1080p, 3 filters for visual preferences, 60 fps locked, improved visuals in certain areas, Tails is playable, and its got all the old school secret stuff still in the game.
I miss the lyrics too, and think they should've just locked Sonic Boom as the intro, but still, thats small compared to all the other amazing improvements.
GotchaForce
Member
Cool game, great port but man I'd been upset if I'd bought this as a kid. The pinball stuff is sooo fucking strict, I'd have given up.
Seven Force
Banned
That would have been so awesome. The cool thing is that it easily could represent Dust Hill or the highly speculated "R2".
fucking sold. is the iOS version universal, separate apps for both or iphone only??
the positives definitely outweigh the negatives here for five fucking dollars. buybuybuybuy
Crumpet Trumpet
Banned
Sonic 5 MUST use this engine.
Theonik
Member
Yeah, not a deal-breaker I mean I still bought the game, but it was still a disappointment. I can probably live with it though.
Edit: That extra zone looks pretty nice. I wonder if they'd consider DLC.
Exactly, I don't even remember finishing this game when I was younger.
And the special stages. Man, don't even get me started on those. They're almost as bad the ones in sonic advance 2.
DICKS AHOY
Banned
So am I misinterpreting that Taxman quote or were Desert Dazzle and Final Fever created specifically for the remake, or leftovers from the original game? Either way a damn shame they didn't finish them off, especially since there was that SCD boss concept art in Generations I didn't remember seeing anywhere in the final Sonic CD.
Oh yeah and the remake's damn spiffy, though I've only played Palmtree Panic so far. Seems easy enough to make stuff in this engine, so I don't know why SEGA's reluctant to swap from S4's Rush engine to this one.
Oh yeah and the remake's damn spiffy, though I've only played Palmtree Panic so far. Seems easy enough to make stuff in this engine, so I don't know why SEGA's reluctant to swap from S4's Rush engine to this one.
Oh so it just looks kinda similar to the Dust Hill prototype stuff. In that case, that makes me want to see an original Taxman and co. Sonic game even more. And one thats "canon" too.
EDIT: Yeah thats just insane. Sega is on a roll, and they dont want to take whats given to them? Even the art style feels fresher than the brand new assets made for Sonic 4. Not only that, but the engine works great on all platforms.
EDIT: Yeah thats just insane. Sega is on a roll, and they dont want to take whats given to them? Even the art style feels fresher than the brand new assets made for Sonic 4. Not only that, but the engine works great on all platforms.
was Sonic 2 your first Sonic title?
Don't be too hasty. Taxman's done a really, really fine job on this port, but designing an all-new Sonic game is an entirely different ballgame. Using the engine doesn't guarantee a good game; just because he can code doesn't mean he can design good Sonic levels. Those two extra levels might have been rubbish for all we know.
DICKS AHOY
Banned
I honestly never found SCD hard to beat at all as a kid, though it was admittedly one of the first Sonic games I'd played in the late 90's on PC since I was a toddler, so the focus on exploration over running probably didn't strike me as weird either. Only zone I found a pain in the ass was Wacky Workbench (which I'm curious to try out as Tails).
I wonder if it was intentional that SEGA put the Super Mario invincibility theme in the Palmtree Panic bad future theme.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=huDGf8I-OtI#t=55s
0:55 mark.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=huDGf8I-OtI#t=55s
0:55 mark.
This times ten thousand.
Big Papa Husker
Member
I think I'll pick it up on PS3 because of the D-Pad.
You've got a point there. Well they should at least use his engine for the next game, so at least they'll have great performance and fun physics.
Hot Coldman
Banned
Can't wait for this to be available for like 50p in the spring Steam sale or something like that
You can switch between US or JP soundtracks from the main menu before you begin playing. If you want to switch, just exit to the main menu, switch and then start back at the beginning of the last zone you were on.
No, just can't stand collision chaos.
Snkfanatic
Banned
Aaron Strife
Banned
Oh God Desert Dazzle looks wonderful. DLC plz (and Knuckles).
The special stages are harder than I remember them being.
The special stages are harder than I remember them being.
It's actually the complete opposite.
DICKS AHOY
Banned
JonCha wants to avoid his "warning people about Mario" post quota in every non-Sonic thread
He made a Sonic fan game called Retro-Sonic. One of the old demos included 3 zones, while they weren't fantastic (to be fair, the demo was really damn old), they were at least good in my memory. Funny enough, one of them was Dust Hill Zone. Unfortunately the game was never finished. You are right though, it is a different ballgame making a new Sonic game than remaking one.
really? that's unfortunate, as it reminds me of Spring Yard Zone from Sonic 1. it's my second favorite in Sonic CD.
i'd buy a Sonic game made on this engine in a heartbeat.
Shotgun Kiss
Member
Been playing for about an hour so far, and I'm enjoying it a lot more than I did the last (and previously, only) time I ever played Sonic CD, which was on Sonic Gems Collection. Probably because this time I know you aren't supposed to tear it through each level; I'm taking my time and exploring.
That said, what is the ultimate objective in each level? I know you're supposed to try and get a good future, but do you do that by doing something in the past, and then returning to the present, and then going to the good future and finishing the level there? Is this right? And what am I looking for in the past? Any patterns as to where it's hidden? Searching a whole level is quite demanding...
Also, where does collecting all the Time Stones fit in?
That said, what is the ultimate objective in each level? I know you're supposed to try and get a good future, but do you do that by doing something in the past, and then returning to the present, and then going to the good future and finishing the level there? Is this right? And what am I looking for in the past? Any patterns as to where it's hidden? Searching a whole level is quite demanding...
Also, where does collecting all the Time Stones fit in?
B_Rik_Schitthaus
Banned
No, terrible levels, sloppy feeling controls.
People should Just watch the Intro and Outro on Youtube.
terrible taste.
Nocturnowl
Member
Bad ending get! I have to say that was one of the easier sonic games from the basis of just finishing the stages. I'm almost shocked to say I enjoyed the boss battles, 2D sonic bosses usually have 1 or 2 ones I find complete bastards but this game was pretty good with bosses, each one felt like it had it's own hook aside from "jump into it until it dies".
I have to make a special mention for Metallic Madness, i'm thinking that it was one of the most poorly designed stages i've played in a platformer, it was just a mess, not really difficult though bar the absolutely baffling section of act 3 with the bottomless pit in which your success seems to be dictated by the bumper positions and timing of the crushing cylinder that blocks the path to continue down. Makes me wonder why Wacky Workbench is the seemingly disdained stage when this is in the same game (funny how they both have similar design themes). Maybe it will be more enjoyable in a replay but it lacks a good hook and had me going round in circles for a bit.
Well tomorrow i'll put on the US soundtrack and go for the good future.
I have to make a special mention for Metallic Madness, i'm thinking that it was one of the most poorly designed stages i've played in a platformer, it was just a mess, not really difficult though bar the absolutely baffling section of act 3 with the bottomless pit in which your success seems to be dictated by the bumper positions and timing of the crushing cylinder that blocks the path to continue down. Makes me wonder why Wacky Workbench is the seemingly disdained stage when this is in the same game (funny how they both have similar design themes). Maybe it will be more enjoyable in a replay but it lacks a good hook and had me going round in circles for a bit.
Well tomorrow i'll put on the US soundtrack and go for the good future.
Collect all time stones or blow up all generators/Metal Sonic holograms in the past to get the good ending. Everything else is just for level variety/story/aesthetics. There arent any real patterns that i've seen (one zone has a generator right at the beginning and you have to back track in the past to get it.
So you can either play it like a normal Sonic game and just focus on getting the special stones of the day, focus on exploring the past, or a combo of the two.
Shotgun Kiss
Member
I'm just gonna play it as it comes on my first playthrough, and I'll try and go for the good ending on my second playhtrough. Seems to be the best way.
Can't get enough of the Japanese soundtrack. I'm glad the American soundtrack is there too though. Having options is never a bad thing!