-
Hey, guest user. Hope you're enjoying NeoGAF! Have you considered registering for an account? Come join us and add your take to the daily discourse.
Sonic Generations |OT| What Sonic can learn from Sonic
- Thread starter RobbieNick
- Start date
Hmm, they actually seem very similar to me. The difference, of course, is that the 360 hardware scales the image to whatever you select while the PS3 will simply display the game at 720p.Synless said:
If they are both sub-720p to begin with, the would mean the 360 version only has to scale once (from original resolution to final output resolution) while the PS3 version scales from its internal resolution to 720p and then your TV/receiver handles the final step. The 360 scaler actually does a very nice job as well.
That said, I did notice a slight judder to the PS3 demo. It's a solid framerate, but throughout the demo you can see that the movement isn't quite as consistent as the 360 demo. It's not slowdown, rather, some sort of issue with the way they are handling framerate. It should definitely be possible to fix, but it's so subtle that I'm not sure it will be.
BlazeHedgehog
Member
TimmiT said:
This has technically been known for a while. Iizuka said in an interview months ago that Classic Sonic's return was simply a "one-time-only" kind of thing.
I even seem to remember hearing that Sonic Generations wasn't even going to include Classic Sonic at all, initially. It was just going to be Modern Sonic as he traveled through the eras. Somebody at Sega apparently got in there and did some convincing and the idea to have dual Sonics was born.
spindashing
Banned
Lucky Number Seven Force said:
Vampire On Titus
Member
Lucky Number Seven Force said:
Hey, man, the truth needs to get out there. SEGA can't keep shoving hentai up our asses.
Dark Schala
Eloquent Princess
What TV are you using?Synless said:
That's exactly my point, though. The 360 scaler does a great job, but the PS3 version relies on the scaling capabilities of your TV and/or receiver. If your display isn't particularly great at scaling, the results would appear inferior.
TimmiT said:
Was kinda known for a while, but it's a shame to hear that they still haven't changed their stance on that. Especially if no Classic Sonic means no Classic gameplay (more Sonic 4 episodes don't count).
Capcom keeps multiple MegaMans around
or are they all dead now?
spindashing
Banned
Holy shit, that took me by surprise. :lol And yeah, I'm not sure about what his fixation with hentai is, but from the video of him making mention of Amy's "pussy crevice" I'm sure he dabbles in a little of that.Dark Schala said:
:lolEchosMyron1 said:
BlazeHedgehog
Member
Hey, that was my idea!Sega1991 said:
PeakPointMatrix
Member
Ha, ok.
Classic Sonic is definitely sticking around. Classic fans have money, which Sega wants. And if there are the kind of Sonic fans that enjoy both modern and classic styles like myself, they'll be seeing double the cash from me. I forsee episode 2 having a drastic visual overhaul. Or at the very least it's physics.
Classic Sonic is definitely sticking around. Classic fans have money, which Sega wants. And if there are the kind of Sonic fans that enjoy both modern and classic styles like myself, they'll be seeing double the cash from me. I forsee episode 2 having a drastic visual overhaul. Or at the very least it's physics.
SonicMegaDrive
Member
Sega are very, very stubborn when it comes to Sonic. The last thing they'd want to do is admit when they're wrong. And that's exactly how they feel bringing back the 'old' Sonic, even to coexist alongside the modern one, would look to everybody else. It would be a proverbial white flag.
This is the same group of people that refuse to admit that if there's anything 'wrong' with the modern Sonic games, it's only because the fans' have "unrealistic expectations".
So yeah, it's no surprise that they would take this stance. The only way you're gonna get these people to suck in their pride and give you what you want is to stop rewarding them for mediocrity with your hard-earned money.
This is the same group of people that refuse to admit that if there's anything 'wrong' with the modern Sonic games, it's only because the fans' have "unrealistic expectations".
So yeah, it's no surprise that they would take this stance. The only way you're gonna get these people to suck in their pride and give you what you want is to stop rewarding them for mediocrity with your hard-earned money.
Sega1991 said:
I'm ok with this.
spindashing
Banned
Same here, actually.Teknoman said:
Bucket-o-roadkill
Member
Sega1991 said:
Woah, they took classic Sonic and modern Sonic and made.. classern Sonic? Xzibit? Is this your doing?!
I wouldn't mind this actually.Sega1991 said:
spindashing
Banned
Enjoy, those that didn't take advantage of the EU demo. One more week.ismaboof said:
I know it's pretty cheap as it is, but I'll probably wait for a steam sale for this one. It may be a better game than "Sonic 4" but I still have the same problem with it. Sonic was always such a wonderfully creative series, now it's a pandering nostalgic wank-fest. I honestly don't even care if it's side scrolling or full 3d, I don't care if the controls aren't as responsive or the physics aren't perfect (they aren't by a long shot). I don't even care about the shitty friends or bestiality nonsense in the last few games (okay, maybe a little), I just want them to display some kind of cohesive, creative vision for the series again and stick to it!
It's fine for them to do this kind of "celebration compilation" thingamabob once in a while, but we JUST HAD THAT with Sonic 4, which unabashedly ripped off stages and bosses from the first few games. This is essentially the same thing, only now it has levels from games that just came out in the last 2 years and a silly retcon plot to justify it. If I want to play Rooftop Run again I can always pop in Sonic World Adventure
I know I'm not saying anything that everyone doesn't already know, but I feel kind of bitter about it.
Anyway... I decided to just pick up a copy of Sonic Jam instead. If I'm going to be nostalgic I might as well have fun doing it.
It's fine for them to do this kind of "celebration compilation" thingamabob once in a while, but we JUST HAD THAT with Sonic 4, which unabashedly ripped off stages and bosses from the first few games. This is essentially the same thing, only now it has levels from games that just came out in the last 2 years and a silly retcon plot to justify it. If I want to play Rooftop Run again I can always pop in Sonic World Adventure
I know I'm not saying anything that everyone doesn't already know, but I feel kind of bitter about it.Anyway... I decided to just pick up a copy of Sonic Jam instead. If I'm going to be nostalgic I might as well have fun doing it.
luka said:I know it's pretty cheap as it is, but I'll probably wait for a steam sale for this one. It may be a better game than "Sonic 4" but I still have the same problem with it. Sonic was always such a wonderfully creative series, now it's a pandering nostalgic wank-fest. I honestly don't even care if it's side scrolling or full 3d, I don't care if the controls aren't as responsive or the physics aren't perfect (they aren't by a long shot). I don't even care about the shitty friends or bestiality nonsense in the last few games (okay, maybe a little), I just want them to display some kind of cohesive, creative vision for the series again and stick to it!
It's fine for them to do this kind of "celebration compilation" thingamabob once in a while, but we JUST HAD THAT with Sonic 4, which unabashedly ripped off stages and bosses from the first few games. This is essentially the same thing, only now it has levels from games that just came out in the last 2 years and a silly retcon plot to justify it. I know I'm not saying anything that everyone doesn't already know, but I feel kind of bitter about it.
Anyway... I decided to just pick up a copy of Sonic Jam instead. If I'm going to be nostalgic I might as well have fun doing it.
Its not really a nostalgia wank fest since even though some of the areas are revisited, the layouts are pretty different when paired with a different version.
For instance Modern Chemical plant, Green hill, and Sky sanctuary. Or Classic City Escape, Seaside Hill, Crisis City, Planet Wisp. And i'm pretty sure Crisis City will be totally different in both versions since the original probably wasnt all that great of a design (I never got that far in 06). Sonic 4 wasnt supposed to be a celebration, it was a busted sequel with tired ideas tacked on as original zones.
Did you play Sonic Colors?
Sonic 4 was not this, at all, because it failed to even come close in terms of quality. Generations had smashed the ball way, way out when it comes to quality here.luka said:I know it's pretty cheap as it is, but I'll probably wait for a steam sale for this one. It may be a better game than "Sonic 4" but I still have the same problem with it. Sonic was always such a wonderfully creative series, now it's a pandering nostalgic wank-fest. I honestly don't even care if it's side scrolling or full 3d, I don't care if the controls aren't as responsive or the physics aren't perfect (they aren't by a long shot). I don't even care about the shitty friends or bestiality nonsense in the last few games (okay, maybe a little), I just want them to display some kind of cohesive, creative vision for the series again and stick to it!
It's fine for them to do this kind of "celebration compilation" thingamabob once in a while, but we JUST HAD THAT with Sonic 4, which unabashedly ripped off stages and bosses from the first few games. This is essentially the same thing, only now it has levels from games that just came out in the last 2 years and a silly retcon plot to justify it. If I want to play Rooftop Run again I can always pop in Sonic World Adventure
Anyway... I decided to just pick up a copy of Sonic Jam instead. If I'm going to be nostalgic I might as well have fun doing it.
And what did you expect then to do to mark 20 years of Sonic? Nintendo released a Mario compilation.
PeakPointMatrix
Member
I can see what you mean (I was a little disappointed upon learning the 20th Anniversary would just be stage remakes) but it has shaped up pretty well, and at the end of the day these stage remakes are pretty appropriate for celebrating 20 years of history. Next time around I would like to see a new original stages of course.luka said:I know it's pretty cheap as it is, but I'll probably wait for a steam sale for this one. It may be a better game than "Sonic 4" but I still have the same problem with it. Sonic was always such a wonderfully creative series, now it's a pandering nostalgic wank-fest. I honestly don't even care if it's side scrolling or full 3d, I don't care if the controls aren't as responsive or the physics aren't perfect (they aren't by a long shot). I don't even care about the shitty friends or bestiality nonsense in the last few games (okay, maybe a little), I just want them to display some kind of cohesive, creative vision for the series again and stick to it!
It's fine for them to do this kind of "celebration compilation" thingamabob once in a while, but we JUST HAD THAT with Sonic 4, which unabashedly ripped off stages and bosses from the first few games. This is essentially the same thing, only now it has levels from games that just came out in the last 2 years and a silly retcon plot to justify it. If I want to play Rooftop Run again I can always pop in Sonic World Adventure
Anyway... I decided to just pick up a copy of Sonic Jam instead. If I'm going to be nostalgic I might as well have fun doing it.
(also am I the only one a little sad that there isn't a two-player mode with tails or knuckles? Racing through these stages would have been sweet, especially the classic ones.)
spindashing
Banned
luka said:I know it's pretty cheap as it is, but I'll probably wait for a steam sale for this one. It may be a better game than "Sonic 4" but I still have the same problem with it. Sonic was always such a wonderfully creative series, now it's a pandering nostalgic wank-fest. I honestly don't even care if it's side scrolling or full 3d, I don't care if the controls aren't as responsive or the physics aren't perfect (they aren't by a long shot). I don't even care about the shitty friends or bestiality nonsense in the last few games (okay, maybe a little), I just want them to display some kind of cohesive, creative vision for the series again and stick to it!
It's fine for them to do this kind of "celebration compilation" thingamabob once in a while, but we JUST HAD THAT with Sonic 4, which unabashedly ripped off stages and bosses from the first few games. This is essentially the same thing, only now it has levels from games that just came out in the last 2 years and a silly retcon plot to justify it. If I want to play Rooftop Run again I can always pop in Sonic World Adventure
Anyway... I decided to just pick up a copy of Sonic Jam instead. If I'm going to be nostalgic I might as well have fun doing it.
I don't know, having Classic Sonic in the same game as Modern Sonic and having Classic Stages of iconic Sonic stages as well as Modern stages of these iconic stages is pretty creative if you ask me.
The stages are not the same either. Sure, they'll be similar but I'm sure the stages won't resemble their past counterparts 1:1.
Hitlersaurus Christ
Banned
I love this design, but to be honest classic Sonic's proportions don't work too well with the behind the shoulders view of the 3D sections. For a 2.5D game though? He'll yes.Sega1991 said:
FreeMufasa
Junior Member
spindashing said:
Bloody hell. I forgot they actually made Rouge even more Voluptuous in Sonic X.
SCULLIBUNDO
Banned
That is disgusting.
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
No no, Sonichu is disgusting.Scullibundo said:
Combichristoffersen
Combovers don't work when there is no hair
FreeMufasa said:
I wanted to jack off to Rogue's tits in that gif, but all the characters give me this weird look
Sega1991 said:
That design....is like baby bear style: Just right.
FreeMufasa
Junior Member
Combichristoffersen said:I wanted to jack off to Rogue's tits in that gif, but all the characters give me this weird look
Should of got in early dude. I let a couple out using the SA2 manual nearly a decade ago. Either this Rouge or Rouge from Power Stone.
Seven Force
Banned
I saw him wearing a silly polka dot tie, myself.Platy said: