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Sonic Generations |OT| What Sonic can learn from Sonic
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Joseph Merrick
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holy shit, just tried the demo. is this game actually not even managing 30 frames?! :-DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
bwahahahahahhahahahahaha. TERRIBLE.
bwahahahahahhahahahahaha. TERRIBLE.
Android18a
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Stubby Modern Sonic works for me. 
PeakPointMatrix
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great postJoseph Merrick said:
pc version btw
Joseph Merrick
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I just played the ps3 demo. it's completely unplayableSwiftSketcher said:
Bucket-o-roadkill
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Joseph Merrick said:
gutter_trash
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I am for making "modern" Sonic looking more stubby to be half way more current modern and classic looking
oh, I enjoyed the demo
oh, I enjoyed the demo
balladofwindfishes
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Is there a PC demo?
Hitlersaurus Christ
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are you fucking serious dudeJoseph Merrick said:
Oh wait, this is gaf
PeakPointMatrix
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thats goodJoseph Merrick said:
Hitlersaurus Christ
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how did you play that unplayable piece of shit? It's not even locked at 60 fpsMalajax said:
DICKS AHOY
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i wasn't following your argument until the dozen or so 'D'sJoseph Merrick said:
completely agree, worst game of the year all years
Joseph Merrick
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I needed all the D's because my mind was completely blown at the time by the game not being 60 frames. how could they get this wrong. haha.Astrosanity said:
Joseph Merrick said:
Its 30. At least the 360 version stayed at 30 the whole time.
Joseph Merrick said:
The hedgehog engine. Sonic Unleashed ran at 30 with drops, Colors ran at 30 locked (and played great/ran pretty smooth) but I think that was on whatever engine Sonic Riders Zero Gravity used. Really there is nothing wrong with it running at 30 fps if its designed for that framerate, and not the result of drops. If you havent played a Sonic game since say, Adventure 2 or even the original trilogy, I can understand the shock though.
Price to pay for Sega making large and detailed environments I guess, compared to how things looked in 06.
DICKS AHOY
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because sonic games are known for being high-quality products with having the same frame rate nearly every other current-gen game has being their only major downfallJoseph Merrick said:
oh well at least we still have good old 60 fps sonic '06
PeakPointMatrix
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this post isnt even 60 fps how do you fuck that up lolJoseph Merrick said:
spindashing
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People must really love Sonic 06. Insert multiple D's.
The_Technomancer said:
Heh. Believe it or not, there's actually quite a few Adventure fanatics out there. Though most of them are usually Shadow fanboys, nostalgia people, and whatever, but still. Personally, I think the Adventure setup had some potential, but they went in the wrong direction with Sonic Adventure 2. Then Sonic '06 came along and...well, yeah.
If they were to ever go back to the Adventure formula, they'd have to make some serious changes to make it worth anything. If anything, it would be interesting to see how Iizuka and the current Sonic Team would handle it.
PeakPointMatrix
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The open spaces and slower platforming is something the first SA made some good effort on without needing to run at incomprehensible speeds. That's why I'm a fan of SA. It's main problems were some collisioning and camera issues (and the occasional homing attack flipout), but Sonic himself controlled relatively well. With some tweaks to the homing attack and some added momentum physics (especially with the spindash), they would have had it perfect.
SA2 kind of polished Sonic's movement, but people's impression of the game is muddled by 35 minute knuckles stages and clumsy boring mech stages taking up 70% of the time. 06 of course just took a dump on the adventure style and I'm afraid that its scarred everyone so horribly both fans and Sonic Team will refuse to nurture the great potential the original SA had for 3D sonic, instead opting to keep it as Sonic Burnout with random 2D platforming sections.
SA2 kind of polished Sonic's movement, but people's impression of the game is muddled by 35 minute knuckles stages and clumsy boring mech stages taking up 70% of the time. 06 of course just took a dump on the adventure style and I'm afraid that its scarred everyone so horribly both fans and Sonic Team will refuse to nurture the great potential the original SA had for 3D sonic, instead opting to keep it as Sonic Burnout with random 2D platforming sections.
eso76
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i just tried the demo and read this page..
well i agree with the 30fps comments.
The game is completely unplayable for me in its' 2.5d stages, i can't see what's going on and it makes my eyes bleed.
Maybe you can get used to it, but first impact was terrible.
3D stages i think work better somehow.
well i agree with the 30fps comments.
The game is completely unplayable for me in its' 2.5d stages, i can't see what's going on and it makes my eyes bleed.
Maybe you can get used to it, but first impact was terrible.
3D stages i think work better somehow.
Hot Coldman
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Joseph Merrick said:
Yeah, he's right guys, I tried and I broke my spine
Now I'm dying, fuck you SEGA
Nocturnowl
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Turns out Modern Sonic's Breakneck speed was more literal than I expected...it...it hurts!Green Scar said:Yeah, he's right guys, I tried and I broke my spine
Now I'm dying, fuck you SEGA
Upsidedown Fuji
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ROFL.Green Scar said:Yeah, he's right guys, I tried and I broke my spine
Now I'm dying, fuck you SEGA
RurouniZel
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My biggest problem is that the art direction makes it hard to see important things like... erm... RINGS. Seriously, Sonic moves too fast for environments this cluttered.
Combichristoffersen
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Green Scar said:Yeah, he's right guys, I tried and I broke my spine
Now I'm dying, fuck you SEGA
Sega has finally found a way to deal with the part of the fanbase they consider pesky; make the Sonic games so bad they'll literally kill fans. Genius!
BladeoftheImmortal
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when do the reviews drop?
OH MY GOD!
Those crafty sons of bitches...this was their plan all along.
eso76 said:
OH MY GOD!
Those crafty sons of bitches...this was their plan all along.
BlazeHedgehog
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FreeMufasa said:
It may not look like it from the camera angles they pick for most of the game, but Sonic Heroes Sonic is pretty lanky. He just has a giant-ass head.
http://imgur.com/a/Qe8Dk
Just played the Modern section on PS3.
Sonic seems less floaty, which is good. Maybe a bit sluggish when slow, but thats fine.
Noticeable lag when jumping. Boost activated immediately, so i guess its how they have the jump set up. I was kind of getting used to it by the end, but it was definitely the worst part of the demo.
Very pretty game.
Sonic seems less floaty, which is good. Maybe a bit sluggish when slow, but thats fine.
Noticeable lag when jumping. Boost activated immediately, so i guess its how they have the jump set up. I was kind of getting used to it by the end, but it was definitely the worst part of the demo.
Very pretty game.
Vampire On Titus
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Willy105 said:
The controls are designed to work within the confines of the level design? Those bastards! lol Honestly though, I don't imagine this game having levels with wide open spaces, so it should be fine.
EchosMyron1 said:
But that's the thing. I like levels with wide open spaces.
Even in Sonic Adventure 2, where the levels were also mostly linear (but not to the extent of Green Hill Zone from here), Sonic could still walk around just fine. You could explore around and see what extra routes and places you could find.
R_thanatos
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Rlan said:
BlazeHedgehog
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R_thanatos said:
He's from Sonic Riders.
plagiarize
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maybe he played it in 3D like i did. it's not a solid 30 fps in 3D. nothing like it. it's a shame too cause it looks rather nice in 3D, and modern Sonic even plays better in 3D when it isn't vomitting frames out the back of your television.dark10x said:
Some interesting stuff that appeared on the Steam registry (PC version), the Sonic Generations entry has been updated, and a new entry for the "primary cache" as been added, which shows that Sonic Generations most likely will be an 8.41GB download (8611MB/1024 = ~8.41GB).
It also shows that Sonic Generations will use an external tool to configure the game options.
It also shows that Sonic Generations will use an external tool to configure the game options.
Vampire On Titus
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Willy105 said:
I agree, and have actually stated several times in this and other threads, that Sonic Adventure 2 is the gold standard for 3D Sonic controls.
Let's not make it out like you need to stop and walk around for a while to find the alternate routes in Generations, It'll work just fine. And the turning/ general movement controls for when your running as opposed to boosting, work leagues better than they did in Unleashed. Where Sonic did feel quite unnatural, unless at top speed.
The controls not allowing you to perfectly do things you never would reasonably need to do isn't really an issue, unless they're so unnatural that it's just a chore to deal with them at all, which I don't consider to be the case.
Of course I'll have to wait to play through all the levels to see if the controls ever do come up short, but I'm fairly confident it'll be fine.
Bucket-o-roadkill
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Sorry if old but Segas blog now has details of Sonic 1 being included. Worth a look I guess, it explains how you unlock it.
Azure Dream
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You can also spend more Sega points to unlock Infinite Continues for Sonic 1 if you need them. (Haven't they learned from EA? You make that pay-for DLC!)